The Royals jumping ship...

[Wolfgirrl]

A virus pandemic breaks out in the UK. Everyone is essentially on house arrest bar a few essential occasions. Businesses and workers facing going bust. People dying every day. Hospitals overwhelmed. Surely this would be a great moment for a morale boosting message from our beloved royals, who we pay to keep in the lap of luxury? Oh wait, a little recorded message has been deemed a health risk to the Queen (allegedly).

Oh well, they can always volunteer Buckingham Palace as a makeshift hospital or hub for supplies, etc, as I'm sure they want to do what they can for their beloved citizens, especially now theyve legged it out of London. Oh wait.

Seriously what are these people for and why do we pay for them again?

Meh. I worked about 270 full days last year. Where’s my palace?

@mamamia456

Hours worked please? How many of these were glamorous dinners or a 2 minute speech?

I would hate having to do that job, so I am quite happy for the royal family to carry on doing what they do

It's not a case of 'somebody has to do it'. Their roles are utterly irrelevant. We could just not have them, or anyone else.

Answer point about camera man and William's air ambulance job please?

@BurneyFanny

@Mamamia456 you also havent answered whether you would give me a job based on the glittering CV above!

@Mamamia456

There are 261 working days in a year.

So from the above, even assuming each engagement is a full day which they arent, PW worked for 2 months less than average joe.

Now let's sat each engagement took half a day. That means he only worked 100 full days or around 3.5 months.

Now consider polo, film premieres and awards ceremonies count towards that.

What did he quit the air ambulance to do again? Full time you say?

Wolfgirrl

How have you calculated travelling time to Scotland, Wales, Cornwall etc?

Pakistan October 2019?
www.dw.com/en/prince-william-kate-visiting-pakistan-to-boost-ties/a-50824401

Oman December 2019?
gulfnews.com/world/gulf/oman/pictures-britains-prince-william-visits-oman-1.68246804

Wolfgirrl - I would imagine there's a lot of preparation involved before hand such as reading up of papers etc, it's not just a question of turning up, not having a clue who you're meeting.

I answered your question re prince william.
The queen has already issued a statement and has also thanked the thousands who have offered to volunteer. I can't understand why you think it's important to see the queen on a video taken on a mobile phone, that has made me laugh. Your job analogy is pointless because it is only costing me £1.24 not millions.

All these engagements that the royals do......they aren’t necessary, they have to do something to justify their existence. Half the time they cause more trouble and upheaval, not to mention expense than they’re worth., and it really shouldn’t be described as work. All the work involved is done by others. All they have to do is read up on the what the event/charity is about, maybe half an hour tops, then just get chauffeured there, meet a few cap doffers, get a freebie lavish lunch, then get chauffeurd home. IT IS NOT WORK.......The country would get by fine without it.

@mamamia456

Why dont you carve up every other government spend to make it sound like less?

Only the royal funding is phrased in this way.

Surely you understand collective maths and that 1.24 each sounds cheap but totals 60million+?

And I'm sure a lot of her elderly fans would like to hear from her themselves. A phone call is nothing.

@Clavinova few others have their travelling time factored into their jobs, nor 5* hotels, nannies, servants and chefs to make working six months a year less arduous. Pull the other one. As for reading over a few facts, everyone does that to prepare for meetings.

Yesterday - If you say so, you really don't have a clue.

Wolfgirrl - Perhaps she's facetiming one of her elderly fans at this very minute.

@mamamia465

Why doesnt Yesterday have a clue? What other work do they do that Yesterday didnt write about above?

As for the facetiming, that's funnier than the idea that they do any work!

Your job analogy is pointless because it is only costing me £1.24 not millions.

Glad that you think you’re £1.24 is a great bargain. You’d rather such a huge sum (which it is collectively) than paying for more nurses/teachers/police I presume. Would you object to another family getting that amount off you, after all it’s only a small amount. Or are the Windsor’s (with the delightful Andrew) more worthy. Just think your contribution is keeping the disgusting Andy in luxury.

Wolfgirrl

Why do CEOs etc. get to travel first class/business class, stay in luxury hotels, work in elaborate offices and boardrooms and claim expenses for personal assistants... when others have to stay in a Travelodge and do their own word processing? Do you aim to equalise everything in your communist dictatorship?

clavi, a CEO worked their way up and is actually working - a lot of them very hard and very long hours.

being a royal is an accident of birth. They have done virtually nothing to achieve this privelege. Nothing at all.

your comparison is seriously lacking.

Those trips to Oman, Pakistan etc, what gets to be called work. More like a 1st class holiday. They’re hardly working all day. Maybe an hour at the most, before they get back in their air conditioned cars and back to luxury hotel. I hate to think how much those trips cost.

Not to mention the environmental impact

@Clavinova

They earned their positions and show talent for what they do. They dont take from taxpayer. Mute point entirely.

And we havent even started on the undemocratic/elitist/class divide side of it

They'll still come back with but...tourism, but only £1.24, but pomp amd ceremony, but pretty dresses.......

No real arguments about the point of the royal family but that's because even monarchists don't have any.

And the president argument.....it's always omg we'll get Tony Blair completely forgetting that we voted in Tony Blair back in 1997 to have much more influence over our lives than a president would 🤣

Many international businesses are family owned - arguably you would get a seat on the board by accident of birth (with on-the-job training of course) especially if you are male, although Ivanka Trump springs to mind. I suppose it depends on how much revenue you think the royal family generate for the British economy.

"Family businesses overwhelming importance to the global economy has never been greater.This is brought into sharp focus with Family Capital’s ranking of the top 750 family businesses in the world."

"These businesses, as ranked below, generate annual revenues of more than $9 trillion.They employ nearly 30 million people."

www.famcap.com/the-worlds-750-biggest-family-businesses/

@clavinova

You dont get it, do you? I dont dislike them for being rich. I dislike them because they do nothing AT THE PUBLIC EXPENSE. Sorry for shouting but you just cant seem to understand that no matter how many times I say it.

Comparing them to other millionaires wont work. They are not head of state and they DO NOT LIVE OFF TAXPAYER MILLIONS.

Phew 😂😂

@Clavinova

The economy generates itself. The healthiest economy in the world is Switzerland. They have no royal family. Why let the royals take the credit for others working hard?

Many international businesses are family owned

indeed. But they at not funded by the tax payers and they are businesses. Not head of states.

One must be pretty dim not to understand the fundamental difference.

But this is the issue when you discuss the RF - you clearly cannot argue with the stupid.

Well tbf lots of other multimillionaire business types are happy to suck on the public teat when it suits them too bit I’m not sure that’s the point Clav was making

As said, for me it's not really about the money since an elected head of state wouldn't be cheap either, but all the same I have to smile at the parroting of £1.24 a year"
Does nobody stop to think the figures come from chosen sources, that there's such a thing as creative accounting and that there's no mention in there of the cost of security or of the countless expenses squirrelled away under various government departments?

Still, as long as it keeps their fans happy I guess ...

If we had a presidency run like Ireland’s it would actually be two and a half times cheaper. It would be run far better than an unelected monarchy. Having a 92 year old pampered old lady as head of state is an embarrassment in the 21st century.