People without underlying conditions shouldn't be afraid of covid-19 **MNHQ editing title to make clear that this is one person's opinion and not fact**

[Alialialiali]

The German mortality rate is 0.4% which is comparable to flu

Germany are testing more than any other European nation whereas we're only testing people when they're admitted to ICU which means that all the people with mild to no symptoms are not featuring in our mortality rate driving it quite high and scaring everyone.

AIBU in believing that people without underlying conditions should not be worried about getting the disease?

Yeah my symptoms were much worse than the flu which usually barely lasts a day. I was feeling very bad for about 2 days.

You have 99.9999% never had the flu.

I had the flu once. I couldn't have crawled out of my bed if the sheets had caught fire. Absolutely floored me. I always laugh when people say "it's just flu" hahaha I DO NOT WANT FLU.

You probably had a very mild cold.

Also, even IF young people with no underlying issues aren't dying, they're still being admitted to hospital and it's not like it's a 2 day stay.

I've been in an ICU followed by a month long stay on a ward. I lost so much weight I looked like a different person. My clothes didn't fit. I became severely depressed. For about 6 months after I had anxiety and PTSD symptoms, couldn’t sleep, could barely eat, felt like my brain was full of fog. I had nightmares and flashbacks about waiting on an ambulance that took over an hour to come.

Nobody talks about this. People are so ignorant. Even if there is a TINY chance that would will end up in hospital for an extended amount of time you DO NOT want to get this.

People like you need to wake up.

A post has come up on my FB today about a 21 yr old dying in UK in last few days. She had no underlying health conditions.

Germany have tested far more people & have been able to protect the more vulnerable because of it they also have an excellent well provided for health system - we have no idea of how many people have had it & sailed through there or how many have needed respirators or intensive support in Germany
We need to establish more testing

@Unique just regular paracetamol

@Casino218

A doctor has prescribed me with codeine to deal with my severe chest pain (I have headaches, too). It really helps. He prescribed them over the phone. You should feel free to call NHS 111 as well; you'll have to wait but they're excellent.

It doesn't help so much with my other symptoms like coughing and nausea.

I hope you make a good recovery.

A 21 yr old with no underlying health conditions has now died. Perhaps we can now put to bed the idea that it isn’t serious for those people....or perhaps you can tell her Mum “it isn’t serious”.

@Mittens030869 thank you. I didn't want to burden them was just going to plod along but will need to call them I think

news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-briton-21-with-no-existing-health-conditions-dies-after-contracting-covid-19-11963451

I’m not worried at all. I very much doubt I would be badly affected and will take my chance and want to volunteer to help. The issue is the small numbers in
percentage terms of those who need help is actually a high number on the ground. Some have to stop it spreading. Yes a tiny proportion of young people will be affected but in a population of 60m, that’s a lot!

My original thoughts were that there must already be tens of thousands with the virus, and in comparison relatively few deaths...so I haven't been particularly worried.

However, my cousin is currently in an induced coma after being diagnosed, seeming to recover and then becoming ill again. He has no underlying medical conditions and has just turned 40. It is worrying.

My dad was at his gp a few days as he has a chest infection, for which he was given antibiotics, and he has underlying health problems including diabetes and is on steroids for life. His gp rang this morning to say he getting him tested as he is at high risk. This is in Ireland.

“ They are testing more people, intervening earlier, and have a better equipped beauty care system. ”

I’d like to thank that autocorrect for making me 😂

I live in Germany and the health services & public health system here are superb
("beauty system is only so-so, AutumnRose 😂 !)

• but not something the UK can copy within even the next few years,

so the Uk & German death rates may be very different, as e.g. the Italian and SKorea rates are

Germany has far more doctors, critical care beds, ventilators, other hospital beds etc than in the UK

Even now (after a nudge by the EU Commission President) they have used some spare capacity to take in critically ill patients from France & Italy

They have done massive amounts of testing, 100,000-130,000 per week atm
The public health service also invested massive manpower, now with students trace contacts of the infected

Important for death rates is that they monitor daily each case, not just to check people haven't left the house, but for a full report of symptoms,
so they can treat any deterioration as early as possible

They have the capacity to treat every patient to the maximum that helps

BUT
German cases are rising by thousands every day

If / when even their health service becomes overwhelmed,
then German death rates will skyrocket just like those in other European countries that can no longer treat each each patient as much as they needwith

Agh, typos, wifi is crap today

@Alialialiali tell that to the family of the 21 year old girl in the UK who died with no underlying consitions.

@AutumnRose1

Yes not sure how health became beauty

Another it’s genius. Though I’m not sure the world’s top rated beauty system could do much about me.

This thread is making me think. I had a weeping eye and thought I has a sinusitis thing coming on, but it didn’t. Could I have had it without knowing? That would be good, I guess.

So sorry to hear about your cousin. I hope he makes a quick recovery.

I can’t be arsed to read the whole thread but the OP’a point of view is the exact opposite of the message being given out by the WHO last week.

YABVU just for that.

The second vitamin D3 blood serum study in the world has been published yesterday.
It was a study of 780 Indonesian covid patients.

These are the conclusions of the study:
• Majority of the COVID-19 cases with insufficient and deficient Vitamin D status died.
• The odds of death was higher in older and male cases with pre-existing condition and below normal Vitamin D levels.
• When controlling for age, sex, and comorbidity, Vitamin D status is strongly associated with COVID-19 mortality.

When compared to cases with normal Vitamin D status, death was approximately 10.12 times more likely for Vitamin D deficient cases (OR=10.12; p