People without underlying conditions shouldn't be afraid of covid-19 **MNHQ editing title to make clear that this is one person's opinion and not fact**

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The German mortality rate is 0.4% which is comparable to flu

Germany are testing more than any other European nation whereas we're only testing people when they're admitted to ICU which means that all the people with mild to no symptoms are not featuring in our mortality rate driving it quite high and scaring everyone.

AIBU in believing that people without underlying conditions should not be worried about getting the disease?

im still worried btw im not going out unless i have to

But there is also plenty of reports of healthy young people ending up critically ill. Also spreading things like that just makes people not take social distancing seriously resulting in more cases and more deaths of those who are at risk. Put simply yes everyone should be scared of catching it

Seconded. Or probably fifty-thirded or something, having briefly rtft.

Can I point you to the post from the nurse I read last night.
It kept me awake until 4am.
People are dying and the hospitals can not cope!
Op, you are an ignorant moron.

Of course people should be worried about getting it.

For several reasons

You don’t know if you’re one of th healthy ones who may need hospitalisation due to it.
You don’t know if you do need hospitalisation if they can treat you based on capacity
You don’t know who else you may have infected in the lead up to having Symptoms, or how many.

No one should panic, everyone should follow the rules, but no one should be thinking I’m not worried about getting it, because I won’t get ill.

Germany are counting deaths differently. If someone with coronavirus has a heart attack they count it as a heart attack not a coronavirus death so you cannot compare their statistics to other countries.

Germany is only reporting those who die from Covid that have no preexsiting conditions.
so their figures are not that reassuring

YABU. A friend posted a video of a friend of hers, in our local hospital, 24, fit and healthy, and in hospital hooked up to allsorts. What looks a bit like a CPAP machine except with two tubes, cannula type things in both hands.

This woman is 24 and is hospitalised because of this virus.
I'd prefer to be a bit cautious than to risk that.

Oh and, she caught it by hosting a dinner party. She apparently told people, If youre well, then come.
Not every carrier has symptoms, and incubation takes upto 14 days.

@Iamamoleinthegarden

The arrogance in your post. Tell me, are you a mathematician specialising in mathematical modelling?

Because it is not just "the media" reporting. It is experts in disease epidemiology, mathematical modelling and other areas of health and the economy. And they mostly agree that it will be a pretty big deal if action is not taken.

It could easily turn out to be just a flu. It is not a flu. It is SARS. It is of course impossible to explain that to the masses. Yeah, cos the unwashed are so ignorant. The real virus is an outbreak of mass hysteria based on nothing more than a few misleading and statistically meaningless figures.

Unless you are a mathematician specialising in mathematical modelling and involved in this field don’t even bother responding.
Your arrogance is astonishing.

In the meantime follow government guidance, stay in and be meticulous because the NHS cannot cope. At least you have internalised that, I suppose. Even if you think it is all the hysteria of the proles.

I have lots of the odd symptoms, sore eyes, a slight cough, sneezing and runny nose, slight headaches, being more tired, metallic mouth, odd bout of dodgy guts. However I have had these symptoms for about 6 weeks. I am checking my temp several times daily, and the highest it’s been is 36.8, and that after exercising.

The headaches feel just like tension headaches, and stress in me always goes straight to my guts. I also have rheumatoid and fibromyalgia.

I have had flu once in my life. At Uni about 30 years ago. So far this bears absolutely no resemblance to it.

Could I have it/had it? Possibly, but very doubtfully. If I did I will have spread it about because these symptoms were long before thus reared it’s ugly head. I also haven’t been out of my rural town since before Christmas.

A lot of people are also using the word flu incorrectly. Many people have never actually had flu, caused by influenza virus. I have, once, and was off work for 2 weeks, very ill. Most people mean a cold (caused by other viruses, e.g. different strains of coronavirus) when they say flu. If Covid-19 is as bad as or worse than flu, I don't want it!

Tell that to the family of the 21 year old with zero underlying health issues who died from this yesterday.

Everybody should be worried.

There's a middle ground surely. There is. But a post like this is simply going to encourage stupid people to believe it’s nothing to worry about, and that’s simply not the case.

@MaskaBuzz

Possibly, but probably not if you haven't had a temperature. There is no real way of knowing at the moment.

67,530,172 population of UK
54, 024,137 is 80% of the population getting it, which is a reasonable guess.

So 0.4% dying is only 216 097 people dying. No nothing to worry about guys, move along, go out and don't worry....

You must also remember that some people do not know that they have underlying medical conditions...not everything has severe symptoms.

My neighbour did sometimes complain of feeling tired and a bit ‘low’ over the last couple of years but it was only when she was hospitalised for a very nasty foot injury that they discovered that she had heart failure.

Don’t take anything for granted.

Whether we're likely to get it or not, we should all be behaving as if we might - it's the only way to keep the restrictions tight enough for them to have any effect.

This has to be a national mindset, not something you think you can opt in and out of, depending on whether you need to pick something up from the garden centre/see your mum because it's her birthday.

@LostaraYil You're absolutely right. There are also a lot of jokes about flu like 'man flu', which might have made people think it's a bad cold, which it really isn't! I was nearly hospitalised last year when I developed pneumonia, but they gave me powerful antibiotics for me to take at home in the end.

The difference with COVID-19, is that it leads to a viral pneumonia, which can't be treated, hence I've had those distressing symptoms.

Lots of people don't know they have underlying health conditions. Best to stay healthy 👍

It is clear that many people without underlying illness and who are under 40 are indeed dying. I

YABVVU.

1. No other country has a death rate of only 0.4% (like that's good). South Korea has a very young and healthy polulation and tested everyone in the affected region. They came up with a death rate of 0.7%. The reason that Germany is the outlier is probably due to the way they are recording deaths.

1. Italy's deaths are concentrated in certain cities. This gives us a reasonable idea of what it might be like when things hit their peak and it's bad- overwhelming a better funded health service than ours.

1. The initial analysis of serious cases in the UK show that it is not just the elderly and those with serious underlying conditions affected. These are risk factors but a very large proportion of the cases are healthy people in their 40s and 50s, particularly men.

Hopefully things will not be as bad as the worst case predictions but we don't know that. Even a best case scenario is bad.

Everyone should follow the governement and WHO advice

It doesn't matter basically what rate Germany has. Uk doesn't have 0.4%... And it won't.

I’m pretty much resigned to getting it at some point. I’m not quite old enough to be in a high risk group and have I’m very fit with good heart/lung function so I’m not overly worried about it. That being said I don’t want to get it and so run the risk of passing it on to someone more vulnerable so I will follow all recommended precautions.

The reason that Germany is the outlier is probably due to the way they are recording deaths.
Absolutely agree with that.

Say the statistics are correct, fine for some obviously. The worry is the low risk group infecting the high risk group which is why schools closed.