People angry at others exercising within the guidelines

[CochonDinde]

Has anyone else seen such behaviour? All day I've seen posts commenting on people 'walking about' and absolute venom spouted at their 'selfish behaviour' as they should be staying at home I'm all for following government guidelines, but this is exactly what these people are doing! Stretching their legs or going for a run. I saw one woman who was foaming at the mouth as apparently she'd seen a cyclist go by - the sheer horror of it!! Am I missing something? I don't get it. Or is it just the (nobhead) mentality of my small town?

Deux In Germany, if someone with CV breaks an ordered self-isolation,
there is a huge fine plus damages and even a jail sentence

I'm not sure about penalties for breaking the ordinary lockdown
It is at least a fine
Compliance is very high though, at least in my region, so I haven't checked !

"one assumes an erroneously issued fine would be challenged."

That's the thing about an emergency - I'm not sure it ever would be

The system is far too busy now and with all the backlog of important cases, I doubt anyone cba to review a fine of 30 or 100 quid
Any appeal could be at your own expense, with all costs to pay

Even in the ordinary way of things, it can be very difficult to challenge an on the spot fine,
especilly if you are worried about making an enemy of the particular police officer

I know we are all supposed to stand up for our rights all the time,
but in this emergency I'd avoid any trouble and just quietly obey the police officer - even if they are gold-plating the rules.

@Winesalot plz keep a camera with you, i'd love a name and shame for dickheads... At least a proof to have them fined for causing obstruction

I have a pic from side on. I figured if the man decided to ignore the fact I was ‘a female’ one day, I would need it.

I doubt naming and shaming him would work. He seems to be one of quite a few who have always felt they and their dogs were entitled to take up as much of the path as they want, even before CV. They will never change their attitude.

@Winesalot I'd say put it on social media under anonymous account if u can, let the good ppl do the rest lol

This is Mumsnet, full of nosy parker, backstabbing bitches. Ignore 'em.

People are awful for that on my local Facebook group. Funny thing is most of them are posting pictures of streets or shops that they are also out in!

@CochonDinde

I haven’t noticed anyone acting like that, but then the people I’ve seen have been out exercising too 🤷🏻‍♀️Ignore!

@Crafting1Queen (or anyone else)

Are you saying it’s wrong (not illegal, just morally wrong) to go out for a run walk??

If you are, can you explain why please?!

I’m on ’Social Distancing MAX’ (staying home, not planning on going to the supermarket for SS long as possible - probably once every 10-14 days max). Occasionally dropping things off to an elderly (90) relative.

But I am going out for a walk every day because I’m obese, have high blood pressure & diabetes. Walking helps all of those, as well as my MH - I’m not dx with any MH issues, but CV is REALLY stressing me out (my own situation & that of elderly family) and for the first time ever, I have anxiety. I’m waking in the early hours and genuinely scared. The fresh air, sunshine, seeing flowers, birds and other people (at at least 2m distance is reducing the stress for me) the exercise helps keep my blood sugars under control and my blood pressure from exploding. I don’t get close to anyone, I don’t touch anything.

How exactly am I being irresponsible or selfish?! If anyone can give me a genuine reason why I shouldn’t be walking I’ll listen & if necessary stop going. I’ll crack open a window & do some stretches (pretty much all I can do right now as my knees are fucked so I can’t do many other things, other than walk or swim or use the gym -which I stopped doing when all this started!)

I cycle to work (NHS)

Usually hardly see another soul on my lovely Riverside cycle path... Now its rammed!

No one breaking the rules for the most part, just lots of single/couple joggers, cyclists, walkers, loads of dogs and families with kids on skateboards and scooters. 2m apart until people are coming the other way then the path isn't wide enough!

Nearly got knocked off bike yesterday by an unwieldy 5 year old on a scooter... I'd just finished 10 hour shift working with confirmed covid patients and to be honest 9 stone of possibly infected nurse is not what you want on top of your 5 year old

Just wish everyone would stay home, I would if I could!! But I do understand why they are out and the nice weather isn't helping...

Amelie

If you are doing the right thing and you are keeping 2m away from everyone, until the advice is to limit exercise even then people can’t really complain. I think the frustration is with people who are not keeping to the 2 m and keeping dogs under control.

People are using 'daily exercise' as daily excuse to flout lockdown. When the body count rises we'll be further restricted as a result of this and then people will really bitch.

What do you mean @TheArchSorcererofContwaraburg? Are you on a out people complying with the rules or those breaking? I don't understand your post, sorry.

I had my walk before with my daughter. Only passed one woman walking her dog and were easily able to keep a very wide berth. After working all day and juggling homeschooling, it was just what we needed - can totally see why Public Health England are actively encouraging people to ensure they get this exercise once per day

People are using 'daily exercise' as daily excuse to flout lockdown

How? If people are going out for one session of exercise and maintain social distancing, they are flouting anything.

If people are going put multiple times for exercise, they are just ignoring them.

I'm a doctor, although not practicing anymore. I went for a walk today, appropriately sociallly distanced at all times On the way I did some essential shopping. Very low risk activity first time i'd been out since last Thursday. I'm not unwell, so I shouldn't be taking up online delivery slots. The Government guidelines say we can go out once a day for exercise and essential shopping as infrequently as possible. I'm seeing that some people find it hard to evaulate risk. some people perceive themselves to be at no risk and behave like idiots. Others have a very heightened perception of risk, understandably given the situation - it still doesn't mean they have assessed the risk properly.

@scratch writes an incredibly sensible post.

I've noticed an sneery anti-exercise view on here pre-covid but it's greatly inflated now.

We all have the ability to take calculated risks within the parameters we've been given. I can go out for exercise once a day. Do I go for my daily run midday in a park?

No. I go late in the evening and choose residential streets. Today I was out for 30 minutes and saw 4 people, all of which I crossed the road to avoid.

I'm allowed out for essential shopping. Have I been to a supermarket in the past 5 days? No because currently we don't need any essentials and meal planned for a week in our last shop.

Some people need to take a moment and try not to get hysterical.

This is Mumsnet, full of nosy parker, backstabbing bitches. Ignore 'em.

And yet here you are on this forum @StraightTalkingSandra. You’re an absolute martyr.

Oh, this thread is such a relief. Thank you, OP

The amount of posters recently who are adding to the gvt restrictions for themselves and judging others who are not with such rage.... it's like it's a competitive, slightly smug, (understandably) anxious horsehair shirt humble brag competition. I cant stand it.

The weather's about to nosedive though, so I reckon a lot fewer people will be out exercising anyway.

I assume all these people who absolutely must exercise daily for their mental health will be out in the same numbers this coming weekend when it’s forecast to be cold and wet. If not, why not?

The post that summed up the hysteria for me was when someone said something like - if some people are going out more than once a day it means other people lose their turn.
WTAF

^^

Indeed

Bit like that infamous person on here who took a layer off, because baby had to wear one more layer than parents...

those who are advocating not going out the house to exercise, do you have a garden that you are using or are you satying in the house completely?

if you are using your garden, do you think that those in the inner city without gardens should not be allowed out? or can they go out within government guidelines? do you think that it is acceptable to condemn the poor to be inside for three months or so?

@AlexaAmbidextra yes. It's not about being out in the sun - it's about getting out and getting some fresh air, natural light and in my case getting away from insufferable noisy neighbours. The benefits are why the government are not only allowing it, but are actively encouraging it.

It's interesting isn't it. Even though a bike ride or a walk are perfectly good for you, people are quite keen to suggest that anyone who they perceive to be selfish should be denied treatment, or "hope they get it", "karma's a bitch" etc. I saw someone suggest they'd like to brand their cheeks. Now imagine if you all said that about overweight people. They are at risk of a huge range of diseases that cost the NHS a fortune every year. Or smokers, or drinkers. I don't see anyone say they are selfish and should be denied treatment ( well not often). That attitude is a slippery slope.

if you are using your garden, do you think that those in the inner city without gardens should not be allowed out? or can they go out within government guidelines? do you think that it is acceptable to condemn the poor to be inside for three months or so?

I'm not sure they've done a great deal of thinking about people in the inner cities full stop.

The advice isn't even that you are "allowed" daily exercise, it is that you "should" take daily exercise. So those refusing to leave the house at all (except the 12 week group) are actually going against the advice they hold so dear

I have been a bit worried by some people ink ow who have been doing very long runs/walks/bikerides, out for several hours. I don't think that's within the spirit of the thing and it scares me that if too many people are out at the same time, this will be taken away too.

I assume all these people who absolutely must exercise daily for their mental health will be out in the same numbers this coming weekend when it’s forecast to be cold and wet. If not, why not?

Quite a lot of runners and walkers are out in all weathers. Dog walkers certainly are. I'm not exactly in that category but started a 'walking challenge' this year and only missed a few days in February. People who exercise outdoors have sufficient goretex.