People angry at others exercising within the guidelines

[CochonDinde]

Has anyone else seen such behaviour? All day I've seen posts commenting on people 'walking about' and absolute venom spouted at their 'selfish behaviour' as they should be staying at home I'm all for following government guidelines, but this is exactly what these people are doing! Stretching their legs or going for a run. I saw one woman who was foaming at the mouth as apparently she'd seen a cyclist go by - the sheer horror of it!! Am I missing something? I don't get it. Or is it just the (nobhead) mentality of my small town?

All of you agreeing with the op here are the ones who should be ineligible for nhs treatment.

Could you expand on why people who are acting within government guidelines and staying at least 2 metres away from others while they exercise should be denied NHS treatment?

Ah, it's made it's way to the thread also.

This ^^

The post that summed up the hysteria for me was when someone said something like - if some people are going out more than once a day it means other people lose their turn.
WTAF? I must have missed the bit about there being a limited number of 'goes' to be shared across the population.

(And now I'm going to hide under the table to avoid the flak because I have dared to suggest that some people are being hysterical...)

Absolutely agree with this. The vitriol some people are posting at people who are doing what is quite clearly allowed, or to those who have a perfectly reasonable question (the one about driving to an isolated wood as she lived in a town). This one has now been answered by the government and you are allowed to do this as long as the place you are going to is quiet enough for you to clearly maintain social distancing.

There are some posters whose names I recognise and will look very differently at them and any advice they give In future.

I think that people who are lucky enough to live in beautiful wild areas where they can walk through the fields and never see a soul could spare a thought for those in towns and cities

( like where I live because I can't afford the rural areas close to work)

People banging on about how they can go out more than once really grates when you are in a densely populated area surrounded by ugly houses and roads

Like show some solidarity please. Stop bragging and boasting.

We've had it here too. Both DH and I are WFH now and trying to manage DS (14 months) between us and still put in full time hours. Mid afternoon yesterday we thought we'd try and break the day up for him a bit and went for a walk with the pushchair. We were actually tutted at by a few people sat out in their gardens

But Alexa (and others who have commented similarly) there is a world of difference between people who were sitting around on a crowded beach than those who are exercising in an area where there is plenty of room to stay a safe distance.

I can understand someone who is working for NHS being overwhelmed and there are idiots about. But this does not apply to those who are walking outside at a very safe distance.

Yes OP I agree a lot of people have lost their sense of perspective and rationality in the hysteria!

This is an absolute crisis and everyone needs to abide my the rules but I agree that it seems to have brought out the inner Stasi in some people.

There are some people idiotically flouting the rules but they are in the minority. We are still allowed outside and it's important for both mental and physical health to go out and get fresh air. Also some people especially in cities don't have gardens so they need to go to the parks and as long as they observe social distancing that's fine!

Some people who are relishing getting on their high horses and judging others from the comfort of their sofa or gardens.

Yesterday I went for my daily walk and went passed our local football filed. In the distance I could see someone running in a circle , and then there was a young guy doing some kind of fitness session right in the middle of the pitch. The field is huge and there was way more than two meters between them. I don’t see the problem with this?

The whole point is to avoid people so staying inside is the easiest way to avoid people outside of your household. However that doesn’t mean you also can sensibly avoid people and exercise outside I go cycling with my daughter and we don’t come near anyone
The key social distancing. Going outside in the fresh air isn’t automatically bad unless you interact with people

@midgetbabe I do feel for people who live in a City or in an apartment block and I know I am lucky . I don't live in a country area with fields but a quiet estate with a small park which has been practically empty as they've closed all the equipment. I don't think people are bragging as such about where they live, they are just explaining to others why it is safe for them to walk out where they live.

The funny thing is these posters always start with “I was out for a walk and” or “I was out doing some shopping and”...

They then ho on to moan about old people or people who allow their dog to urinate more than once a day.

*go

The post that summed up the hysteria for me was when someone said something like - if some people are going out more than once a day it means other people lose their turn. WTAF? I must have missed the bit about there being a limited number of 'goes' to be shared across the population.

I can see how that could possibly be the case in some very crowded urban areas, but for a lot of the population, probably the majority, it just isn't like that. It's not necessarily a rich/poor thing either: I live in a rather down at heel suburb but it's quite spread out, sprawling even. In most of the of areas in my city where I couldn't afford to live, the population density is higher. Usually those areas have access to much more in the way of local amenities than mine, but at the moment space temporarily matters more.

The general problem is that people make assumptions and don't stop to think that others might be living in an area that looks very different to theirs.

It would be great if this “pitchforks at dawn” anger could be directed at the large corporations, that seem to be using Coronavirus as an excuse to shaft their staff / customers, rather than fellow citizens, who are trying to get by in difficult circumstances.

Virgin, Ryan Air, Yodel - I’m looking at you.

I think that people who are lucky enough to live in beautiful wild areas where they can walk through the fields and never see a soul could spare a thought for those in towns and cities

Give over.

When you all that live in towns, can pop to the shops on a saturday night, do you sorae a though for us rural people that cant?

When it snows us in or floods and we cant get to work and have to take unpaid leave AND cant get out for the basic food, make sure you dont mention, anywhere that you enjoyed your dinner, had friends over went somewhere etc. Where your solidarity then?

I live rurally because it was cheaper. It comes with good and bad. People pointing out they should be allowed to go fro a walk without have hysterical people screaming they cant isnt bragging.

I think people are also judging from their own circumstances maybe. If you live in a heavily built up area you're going to need and want to minimise being outside as it's going to be hard to keep your distance from others. My parents live way out in the countryside away from others. They could walk for hours and not see anyone. An hour long walk for one group is riskier than an hour long walk for another. The government can't give us very specific information tailored to our own personal circumstances, we all have to use our own judgement to a certain extent.

I heard a woman loudly complaining about there being "so many people out" while she was out.

She was socialising, less than 2m, with 2 elderly people outside her household. 😂

People are bonkers.

We do, and that's why so many of the posts on this issue are so daft.

It’s really not my concern if someone else lives in a heavily built up area and can’t get out. They chose to live there, suck it up. Yesterday I didn’t pass a single person whilst out, saw a few people in the distance no doubt doing the same thing but I’d say the likelihood of either of us spreading the virus is zero.

You can spot the teachers pets a mile off on here though can’t you? Some people never truly grow up...

Whatever the situation there will always be people who enjoy bristling with indignation and being self righteous. Just try not to engage with them.

You are allowed to go for exercise once a day.

You are allowed to shop for essentials. No specifics about how often you should go have been given, but IMO as long as you're being sensible about this (i.e. not going to the shops just because you fancy a bottle of wine) and going as little as possible, you're within government guidelines.

You are allowed to leave the house to go to work. Lots of fury about crowded tube trains recently, but I suspect a great deal of those on the trains are healthcare workers, supermarket workers etc. They have to get to work somehow.

You are also allowed to leave the house to care for someone vulnerable.

If you're following the guidelines you're ok, and it's best to ignore the idiots who think following government guidelines should disqualify you for NHS treatment (showing a breathtaking lack of understanding of what the NHS is about there), or that you're Satan incarnate.

I think that people who are lucky enough to live in beautiful wild areas where they can walk through the fields and never see a soul could spare a thought for those in towns and cities

I actually do think this is a reasonable point. I wasn’t trying to brag, just to explain, but I do understand that it is harder for people in urban areas. Everyone needs to use their common sense and that should involve recognising when some people have it harder than others.

Yes I agree

There’s a local Coronavirus Facebook group - originally set up for information/place for people to go if they needed a bit of help with shopping, etc

It’s now full of people complaining about what other people are doing

Last night someone posted a photo of someone walking past their house with lots of ranting about how stupid and selfish they are - no idea why that person is out, they maybe an essential worker on their way to work, someone out to get essentials

Someone else posted a massive rant because another person dared to buy some flowers with their food shop

Someone asking who they report their neighbour to for being in their garden

Hundreds of posts like that with hundreds of comments on each one agreeing.

It’s mad!

My neighbour has already been round to tell me I’m going out far too often. We have horses that we have to go to twice a day, we’ve got a rota at the yard to make sure only 1 person is in a barn at a time, we’re being very careful with hand washing, not sharing tools and staying at least 2 metres apart, but I can’t leave them to starve to death, knee deep in their own shit.

I take my dog around Hyde Park early in the morning - easy to observe 2m rule with other walkers , cyclists and joggers etc - before going to work ( NHS ) . It’s been lovely blue skies and sunshine which lifts the soul .

Part of the problem comes from others though, as @Opendraw said upthread, she went out for a walk, was observing social distancing but the runners didn't and came within the 2m of her, now there is the risk of the virus spreading, thanks to their stupidity.
It's all good and well going out for your daily exercise but if other people are dicks then you have still put yourself and others in a vulnerable position. I guess that is why people are saying stay in when you can. I live rurally so if we wanted to we can very easily go out and not see another soul, but if I lived in a busy town I certainly would be putting myself at risk for the sake of a walk.