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I'm in lockdown in Spain ask me anything

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BirdandSparrow · 22/03/2020 21:25

Just that. On day 9 of Europe's srictest lockdown.

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Meredithgrey1 · 23/03/2020 06:32

Does it mean that children who live somewhere without a garden basically never get outside at all, since they also aren't allowed to the shop?
Seems a bit harsh that you can walk your dog and not your child (not that you walk a child but you get the idea).

Booboostwo · 23/03/2020 07:04

I am also in a France, a week into lockdown.

We are allowed to go out to take care of animals, it’s one of the official reasons on the form, but everyone has been encouraged to organize themselves to minimize visits. So if your horse is in a livery yard, the yard owner is expected to sort them out. Grooms have also been asked to do the minimum of journeys necessary. People are not even riding to avoid accidents that would add to the hospital burden.

Dogs are not allowed to be exercised, they are allowed out to poo and pee. It’s a different rule from children because children presumably won’t cause a health hazard with their toileting in an apartment.

People who have a medical need for exercise or exercise with someone else, e.g. disabled child who needs two adults to look after them, can get an exemption certificate from their doctor.

monkeyblonde · 23/03/2020 07:06

This is one of the most reassuring posts that I have seen so far - thank you!

AnneLovesGilbert · 23/03/2020 07:34

As it seems to be looming here your experience is really helpful OP, thank you. Wishing you, your family, your village and your country well Flowers

ilovemydogandMrObama · 23/03/2020 07:46

Apologies if this has been asked before, but how often is the rubbish collected? I was thinking this could be an area of transmission, so interested what other countries are doing...

BlueMoon1103 · 23/03/2020 08:02

How are people supposed to exercise and get fresh air if they can’t go out? Not everyone has a garden?

heebie · 23/03/2020 08:02

Ilovemydog I used to live in a village in Spain and rubbish isn't collected the same way as over here as in no-one had individual bins. There are generally rubbish areas, like our recycling points, at the end of most streets that you sort and leave it at. Can't really keep it round the house because of pests. Not sure what the cities are like.

BirdandSparrow · 23/03/2020 08:49

Does it mean that children who live somewhere without a garden basically never get outside at all, since they also aren't allowed to the shop? Pretty much. There are lots of people living in flats with no outside space. Some will have azoteas (communal rooftops for drying clothes) so maybe the kids will be up there briefly once a day, but these are not suposed to be used for exercising. They migh occasionally go to the shops if there's nobody to leave them with and they are too young to be left alone.
Seems a bit harsh that you can walk your dog and not your child (not that you walk a child but you get the idea). Dogs can't be left to shit all over a flat, children can use the toilet. So dogs can go out briefly. Is it harsh? Yes. But, the idea is to reduce social contact massively, with no exceptions except dire need (food, medicine etc). Exercise outdoors is not a dire need for a few weeks. We have to open the windows and exercise at home if we have no outdoor space.

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TotallyAnonymousUsername · 23/03/2020 08:49

I'm in a city (in Spain), in an apartment with no garden or terrace. We sit my daughter on the windowsill every day to get some fresh air, and some direct sunlight and to look out at the sky and down to the trees on the street, we're watching how they're changing as the leaves are appearing at the moment. We have been doing a lot of mixed exercise (including 5 minute cardio before school, yoga, ballet, kids exercise videos etc) using YouTube, several times a day in short bursts, but we've also decided to start to walk around the apartment a few times a day for something a bit more organic.

Clapping every night at 8pm for essential workers is a highlight of our day, we're getting to know some of the people in the building opposite via waving. And last night someone played music and everyone danced. I wouldn't choose it, but we're ok.

BirdandSparrow · 23/03/2020 08:51

Ilovemydog I used to live in a village in Spain and rubbish isn't collected the same way as over here as in no-one had individual bins. There are generally rubbish areas, like our recycling points, at the end of most streets that you sort and leave it at. Can't really keep it round the house because of pests. Not sure what the cities are like. The same, in cities and villages, there are communal bin points on most streets/ within a couple of streets, with big bins. People are starting to be really keen to take the rubbish out, hahaha!

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BirdandSparrow · 23/03/2020 08:52

How are people supposed to exercise and get fresh air if they can’t go out? Not everyone has a garden? Open their windows and do exercise at home basically.

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BirdandSparrow · 23/03/2020 08:53

I wouldn't choose it, but we're ok. @TotallyAnonymousUsername keep your spirits up! Sounds like you are doing a great job!

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BirdandSparrow · 23/03/2020 08:54

Wishing you, your family, your village and your country well Thank you!

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TotallyAnonymousUsername · 23/03/2020 09:01

And you @BirdandSparrow Flowers

BirdandSparrow · 23/03/2020 09:19

Do you still get rubbish collection? As mentioned beefore, we don't have individual outdoor bins, everybody drops their rubbish in big communal bins at the end of the street/a few streets away. The collection for this is completely normal, at least where I am.

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Flaxmeadow · 23/03/2020 09:42

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Flaxmeadow · 23/03/2020 09:46

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Cloudmonkey · 23/03/2020 09:59

Great thread, thanks OP. Question, let’s say 2 weeks into lockdown I wantes to move to a different home, could I do that?

mrswhiplington · 23/03/2020 10:07

Are trades people allowed to come to your home for an emergency, ie. burst pipe, broken boiler with no heat or hot water? We are waiting for our boiler to be fixed tomorrow.

BirdandSparrow · 23/03/2020 10:08

Great thread, thanks OP. Question, let’s say 2 weeks into lockdown I wantes to move to a different home, could I do that? no, not if it involved removal vans and so on. Anything that is not essential is banned.

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BirdandSparrow · 23/03/2020 10:09

Are trades people allowed to come to your home for an emergency, ie. burst pipe, broken boiler with no heat or hot water? We are waiting for our boiler to be fixed tomorrow I assume so, but I'm not sure how it would work. I imagine if it were an emergency then your insurance could arrange something. We are not suposed to do non essential things, but emergencies can be catered for.

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winnielapooh · 23/03/2020 10:31

Are you allowed to stay with someone else for the entirety? Eg a couple who don't live together isolating together in one of their homes rather than each remaining in their own home alone? Thanks for the thread it's calmed my anxiety so much Thanks

ER1992 · 23/03/2020 10:32

I work in pharmacy so counted as a key worker but have an 18 month old who would usually go to my mum who is below 70 and has no health problems. Will he still be able to go there so I can go to work or will I have to stop working?

BirdandSparrow · 23/03/2020 10:35

Are you allowed to stay with someone else for the entirety? Eg a couple who don't live together isolating together in one of their homes rather than each remaining in their own home alone? Yes, absolutely. But you'd probably need to have done that at the beginning unless it involved literally a small bag and walking round the corner type thing. You wouldn't get away with moving house now in the middle of it. I know some people who decided to quarantine together in one place because it was bigger with more outside space, for instance.

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BirdandSparrow · 23/03/2020 10:37

I work in pharmacy so counted as a key worker but have an 18 month old who would usually go to my mum who is below 70 and has no health problems. Will he still be able to go there so I can go to work or will I have to stop working? I can only tell you about my experience in Spain, but that kind of thing is what a lot of Spaniards are doing. The schools are completely shut, so where there isn't someone who can work from home, kids have to go to grandparents or other family.

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