People uneccessarily self-isolating are annoying me AIBU

[Alialialiali]

self isolation is different to social distancing

self isolation you enter when you or anyone in your family develop a cough or a high temp or you/family member are in a vulnerable group

social distancing is what we should be doing as a minimum all the time. ie. minimise going out.

All those people self-isolating at the drop of a hat you are causing the problem. For self isolation, you WILL need to stockpile food etc because you want to eliminate going out for 14 days.... But if we all self-isolate then we are all going to need to stockpile which is what everyone has just done last week. ie. why the government didn't mandate it in the first place... cause of crazy people.

We are in week 2 of this and we need to have the stamina to get through to month 18. You are not going to do this by self isolating for all that time.

So, people self-isolating and therefore stockpiling are annoying me... AIBU?

@piggywaspushed

I reported the thread because OP said is she had symptoms she would go out if she has to or put on a mask. In case you didn't read that bit.

From the govt website:

www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-stay-at-home-guidance/stay-at-home-guidance-for-households-with-possible-coronavirus-covid-19-infection

Ok it doesn't mention a mask but it does say you can go out if you must.

Stay at home
You and all household members should remain at home. Do not go to work, school, or public areas, and do not use public transport or taxis.

If possible, you should not go out even to buy food or other essentials, other than exercise, and in that case at a safe distance from others. The 14-day period starts from the day the first person in your house became ill.

If you require help with buying groceries, other shopping or picking up medication, or walking a dog, you will need to ask friends or relatives. Alternatively, you can order medication by phone or online. You can also order your shopping online. Make sure you tell delivery drivers to leave items outside for collection if you order online. The delivery driver should not come into your home.

Bloody hell, it’s official. MN has eaten itself.

Don’t go out.
Don’t self isolate unnecessarily.
Don’t stockpile.
Make sure you stay inside for 12 weeks.
Don’t let your kids out.
Don’t make your kids stay inside.
Don’t send your kids to school unless BOTH parents are key workers.
Don’t let your kids go to school and pick up the virus.
Don’t get anxious.
Don’t underestimate how serious this is.
Don’t PANIC.

Is there anyone else I need to tell off?

I wish I could like PuppyMonkey's post above. That's why we need much clearer guidance from the government. What if you buy 2-3 weeks worth of shopping then stay in,develop symptoms halfway through and can't get a delivery or anyone to help you? What then?

Just watched the mayor of London urging people to stay at home whatever their situation, it’s responsible to socially distance or self isolate if they want to, the quicker people learn to do as they are told the quicker this will be over with less deaths. How fucking hard is it for some people to understand.

We plan to self isolate for 12 weeks as dh is in an “at risk” category and ds3 has asthma. Luckily, having seen the Brexit threads on here, I already had a good stash of dried foods, tins and toiletries collected over the last year+ and only needed a few fresh bits. This should keep us going until the online deliveries get back to normal (unfortunately I didn’t think of stashing hand gel but have plenty toilet paper). We can also help neighbours if they need anything. I don’t think it will be easy but better than the alternative.

I'm a bit frustrated today. My MIL has taken the don't visit your mother advice all too literally.

Thing is - she is 95 and housebound after having a fall and has a broken bone. She needs daily support. We have all been keeping away from her apart from DH who has been buying her food, medicine and helping her with personal care. He has been going to visit every day.

This morning she rang and told him not to go.

He's gone anyway, to 'do some work in the garden' and will talk to her through the window.

The sooner they announce lockdown the better.

No misunderstandings that way.

I’ve just heard on the news that the vulnerable people who have been advised to self isolate for twelve weeks will receive food parcels if they run out of food. They will be receiving letters I think.

I stocked up. Gradually. Added to my Brexit stash. Did a larger than normal online shop from Sainsbury’s five weeks ago and Ocado four weeks ago. If I was in M&S I added in a packet of pasta and a jar of sauce or a couple of tins of soup or bag of rice. Went to a local farm shop on Friday for fresh veg and meat.

We are now hunkered down. Which is more than social distancing but not full on self isolating. So one of us will go out as needed for milk, bread etc. once a week or so.

And yes you should have 14 days of supplies in in case you get symptoms. Realising you have symptoms and then going out with a mask on is madness. It’s too late then. You are infecting people.

I'm over cautious because of all the idiots who have no caution at all. I self isolated because I had symptoms and I'm pretty much going to continue to do that.

I've not been out in ages, just starting the panic buying when I was out.
been told it's much worse now.
I prepped so no need to panic, but I don't give a flying fig what you or anyone else tells me to do, I'm staying in, and of course my garden.

I always do a two week shop. My freezer won't hold more than that so it's what I've done for the past 15 years since DH and I married. I hate food shopping with a vengeance so I've rarely done a weekly shop.

What I am doing is keeping my two weeks supply (which I got a couple of weeks ago) 'topped up' so as I use two or three meals, I'll replace them with whatever I can get - it's a pack of chicken or a box of fish every three days as there's only three of us. So the freezer or cupboard has enough to keep to 14 days isolation without stripping the shelves. I've divided chicken up (for example) into two or three meals so that rather than have the chicken alone with veg etc., I'll put it in a casserole as it'll go further with a small amount pasta or rice bulking it up.

It's fine saying get friends to get your shopping but that puts them in danger by going to the shops on a trip they may not otherwise need to do. If you just put a scant two week supply together then keep a rolling stock every two to three days as you use things and can get out you don't have rely on anyone else if the worst happens. If you've used three days worth then gone sick you can ration supplies out to cover 14 days with 11 days food. Then everyone is safe. But stockpiling enough meat to put a restaurant to shame or loo rolls for the year is ridiculous.

The minimum we all should be doing is staying indoors !

I haven't decided if you are being goady or if you simply have not grasped the situation op.

You can choose which one applies to you.

We should ALL be in isolation op. Every one of us should be in self isolation. The only time we should be leaving our house is for food, and if you are very old or very vulnerable then you should not even be doing that if you can help it.

I repeat we should all stay at home. We should all be self isolating.

Of course stock piling is not necessary if you have access to food easily or knows someone that can do it on your behalf, however you are and should not be doing anything other than self isolating op.

Next week, when we are all in complete lockdown will you still be asking us all to stop self isolating I wonder?!

You need to change your mindset about this urgently, otherwise our NHS is going to sink under the pressure and take thousands of lives that could have otherwise be saved.

Self isolate is the only way to contain the monster virus, and threads like yours are really deeply, deeply unhelpful.

*Your judging people for choosing to stay safe is annoying me.

Get a grip*

You dislike people trying to protect themselves and others? Honestly, I hope you step on a Lego.

Having 2 weeks of essential food and provisions isn't unreasonable. But that isn't stockpiling. Stockpiling is having 100 rolls of loo roll, 20 bags of pasta, 50 litres of long-life milk, etc.

I also doubt that many people are self-isolating without good reason. If the rest of us practiced social distancing properly, they would be much safer. People who don't are annoying.

I thought the whole point of staying at home was to try to keep the number of new infections, and subsequently the number of new hospital admissions , as low as possible. The current prediction is that the biggest peak of infection is yet to come, probably April/May according to the epidemiologists. The idea is that the more people who can be prevented from being in that peak and even reducing it a bit, the better the chance of the support services (health, mortuary,burial) being able to deal with the demand.

It's a bit like the vaccination argument, there has to be a majority herd response to make it possible for the whole strategy to work. Unfortunately there seem to be many who are hard of thinking/stupid and downright selfish who don't understand that their ignorant actions are going to scupper the whole process.

There are going to be people who get infected because they are idiots, there are going to be people infected by idiots, and there are going to be people infected by chance, through work, or bad luck. But if the vast majority of us can deal with isolation and social distancing properly then hopefully more of us will stay well for longer and there will be a better chance of getting through however long it takes.

@Alialialiali

I'm self isolating due to significant underlying health issues, and quite frankly, i don't give a shiny shit that you're annoyed by my actions.

As i see it, I'm one less that will a hospital bed (at least from CV) in the coming weeks, and I'm one less person currently competing for basics in the supermarket as I bought extra over a few weeks long when stocks were being easily replenished.

You should be utterly ashamed of yourself for even thinking you can go out (with or without a mask) if you are infected with corona virus!

Perhaps you could spend some time thinking through the real consequences and issues instead of stupidly feeling annoyed with people that are self isolating 'at the drop of a hat' because becoming infected is likely to kill them.

Guys, do me a favour. If you think I'm wrong rather than just offer me your opinions please reference some government documentation that proves I'm wrong.
So far not a single one of you has done that and I have to say all it proves is that no one's actually read what the govt have said.

@selmababies
I'm self isolating due to significant underlying health issues, and quite frankly, i don't give a shiny shit that you're annoyed by my actions.

Christ, where did i say you should not be self-isolating. I even provided a link to the govt website saying you should be self isolating.
I mean, jump down my throat by all means if you're having a bad day.

Golly, this is hard work. For those who are judging me replacing what i use from my stash each week,

2 vunerable people in my semi rural home, I have enough freezer space to store for 12 weeks at a push.

We are at the mercy of home delivery slots, they are like gold dust. So replacing what I use while i can get it makes sense. It also gives me the ability to be on the local list, to provide a bag of food for anyone who has been unable to get a delivery slot or get into town.

Guys, do me a favour. If you think I'm wrong rather than just offer me your opinions please reference some government documentation that proves I'm wrong.
So far not a single one of you has done that and I have to say all it proves is that no one's actually read what the govt have said.

Take a look at what is going on in Italy and Spain. People NEED to stay the fuck away from others as much as they possibly can.

I'm stunned that you are still here arguing you are right when people will die as a result of lack of isolation.

I think I have realised that op has perhaps been left behind, social distancing is so last week, it is all about isolation now buddy. Pure unfettered isolation, probably for months if not longer.

Please try to keep up.

I privately think someone has cancelled on you, and you are annoyed because you think they should be seeing you, and you have dressed it up as a stockpiling rant.
Stock piling has nothing at all to do with isolating or social distancing you do know that don't you? Stock piling is usually caused by emotional distress and panic. People trying to gather some control over the basics in their lives. It is very common and happened in every country that has had an outbreak bar none, and usually settles down once everyone becomes accustomed to the situation.

I'd rather that people went overboard than swanned around town like normal.
At least they are fucking staying in.
The thick people of this country are going to land us in a fucking disaster.

OP you seem confused by the advice, tbh.

partyforone

So for two people you have 12 weeks worth of food in your freezer.

Presumably an equally impressive stash of dried/tinned food.

Yet you still pop out every few days to top up as you use stuff.

Blimey.

As a family we are self isolating. Why on earth would anyone care whether we do this or practice social distance? As long as we aren’t endangering ourselves or other people what difference can it possibly make to them?