All healthcare should get a pay rise

[jadey0885]

Hi
I would like to get peoples views on all healthcare staff to get a pay rise.
Especially nhs staff.
I work in the nhs as a nursing assistant and I am really scared of catching it.

I have 2 daughters who I've kept off school as they are asthmatic.

We have been told unless we are sick with the cornavirus then we still have to go work regardless.

What is everyone's opinion

[Tonz]

What about retail workers who are risking their health every shift as well who do so without any protective equipment at all. The abuse I've seen towards shop floor staff the last week is unbelievable. At least nhs staff get respect for the job they do

[SwayingInTime]

The reality is that the NHS bays "bank" money rather than OT.

Is that similar to flexitime in the private sector and is the the time given back and equal number of hours or additional time? If you're working more than 37.5hrs a week, it seems quite illegal for extra pay to not be given.

Logged in for the first time in ages to reply to this. In fact you often get paid less for working more than 37.5hrs as as per PP shifts through the bank is the only way to work extra shifts and these can be paid at eg. middle of band 6, when you a re at top of band 6, if that’s where your trust sets bank wages.

[TheFairyCaravan]

DS2 is asthmatic and is a nurse in A&E. He's seen confirmed cases, he's also told me they're running out of PPE. He's just getting on with it. He, and his girlfriend who is also a nurse, are resigned to the fact that they're probably going to get it.

I'm worried about him, tbh, more so than his brother who is a soldier which is a really strange concept

[TheFairyCaravan]

At least nhs staff get respect for the job they do

You are joking? DS2 often gets called a cunt when he's at work.

[Iamthewombat]

Yeah, the Treasury is awash with money at the moment with few other demands on reserves, and this is the most sensible way of spending the nation’s cash. Forget supporting businesses or poorer people who can’t afford their mortgages. No, top priority is a pay rise for you, for doing your job.

Who else will you give pay rises to? People working in power generation? Sewage plant workers? Care workers? People working in supermarkets? Social workers? Are they less important than you?

How will you decide which NHS staff get these crisis-related pay rises you’re keen on?

Your post sounds opportunistic I’m afraid: using a crisis to screw some more money out of your employer (which for the record is every taxpayer in Britain).

[StormyClouds]

Nurses and other NHS staff knew exactly what they were signing up for when they took their roles.

And additional funds that are available have to be used to increase capacity and bring in additional resource where possible. There should be no overtime pay awarded either.

[Tonz]

What I meant was in general people do know the job and risks the NHS are taking right now. Retail staff are amongst the lowest paid workers and now find themselves essential to keep things going while taking abuse for it. I saw a young checkout girl spat on in asda only yesterday because she told a customer there was a limit on essentials. Her boss will probably get a bonus when this is done but I doubt she will

[Carrotcakeforbreakfast]

I didn't sign up thinking I was going to put my life and that of my families potentially at risk. It is ridiculous to suggest so.

However, as frightened as I am and as underpaid as i feel i am i don't think just healthcare workers should be having some recognition here. Shop workers, royal mail etc.

Laughing at the at least we get respect.
I got called a a fucking slag today.

And I've been punched on more than one occasion.

[Mlou32]

NHS staff should have had a pay rise years ago. However in the coming years, the government will be to strained to the hilt with all the tax breaks and bailouts it'll have to give businesses, extra funding that it has given to the NHS at present to pay for the current crisis and all the extra sick pay it is providing that I doubt it'll have any extra money for a raise. I say this with a heavy heart as a fellow NHS worker

[ScribblyGum]

I don’t need a pay rise. What I do need is to be screened for Covid so that my husband (senior doctor) and I (senior physiotherapist) can get back to bloody work.
Currently both of us off in self isolation for two weeks because I have a cough which odds on is due to a cold.

[CouscousEvaporator]

and do we send our soldier's to the front line with no equipment because that is the reality for NHS staff

I’d just like to point out that’s is EXACTLY what happened in Iraq to soldiers sent to the desert in green camouflage and nowhere near enough body armour. My DH had to rely on family sending extra socks by mail.
Not that two wrongs make a right.

A gesture towards front line staff would be lovely, but hoping for a payrise I think will just be ultimately disappointing :(

I also do not know how retail workers do it.

[amandalives]

@CouscousEvaporator yes after I posted I did think that that would have been the case. In general if people aren't provided with fundamental protection I don't think it's fair to wheel out the argument that it's what they signed up for.
Also for what it's worth I think the way that people are behaving in shops at the minute is disgusting and a plan needs to be put in place to protect staff and other shoppers.

[jadey0885]

@amandalives
Thanks Hun. Sending love to you and family

[jadey0885]

@tonz

I appreciate your frustration. I sympathise with all workers. In retail I feel you should have PPE too as you are in close contact with customers.
I'll also state that in the nhs not everyone gets respect I can 100%assure you on that

[jadey0885]

@TheFairyCaravan
I sympathise with them too. I can only imagine what they are going through. It's hard especially when your in a job you like. It's the same with me.

[Pomegranatepompom]

‘ Just doing your job ‘ No, people didn’t sign up to be placed anywhere under very stressful circumstances.

It works be nice to have a little understanding how much pressure nhs withers are under, I know it’s not just us, but will will be putting ourselves and our families most at risk. It would be nice to support each other( inc care workers/ retail) rather than being so dismissive and quite frankly a bit rude.

[jadey0885]

@Iamthewombat
No1 is screwing anyone out of money.
Every person who owns a business or works for an employer have asked for a pay rise. Unless you are in front line of it all u won't understand. Just like the military. Now they have been drafted in how much do you think they are getting...

[AliBear90]

I’m a nurse and I agree but I thought so even before this happened. Working in emergency departments is hard and stressful and we deal with life and death everyday for less money than some McDonald’s and supermarket staff. Not belittling their jobs at all, their needed and stressful too. But at the end of the day they’re not making life and death decisions and dealing with that daily. I get less money than a relative of mine that works 2 nights a week in a shop and I work full time all different shifts as a nurse after 3 years of university. And I have been qualified 5 years so it’s not like I’m at the starting wage.

[jadey0885]

@StormyClouds
Technically I signed up work on a gastro ward. Not anywhere else. But staff members are isolating them self. So no we didn't no exactly what we signing up for if we only applied for one particular job role

[jadey0885]

@Carrotcakeforbreakfast
I've been abused by patients too and called lots of things. So yes that comment about we get respect is a understatement

[Doobydoo]

I have always thought hcas and carers and nurses should earn more. In the private sector( nursing/care homes) nurses get ssp...and so..the hourly rate may be slightly higher than nhs but a nurse will often be on their own with sole charge fir 35 + residents...it is ridiculous they do not get proper sick pay. Also how a care role can be ckassed as unskilled....well people saying that have never had to encourage a confused and frightened person to change out of soiled clothes and put clean ones on,take meds,eat etc etc.

[jadey0885]

@AliBear90
I totally agree with you.. I'm not undermining any other worker but they don't deal with the situations that is nhs staff/healthcare and support workers have to deal with on a daily basis

[Zillaindie]

Im NHS community.
I dont want a pay rise. Im lucky to have a wage coming in to support my family, something some people cant currently guarantee.

I dont really need respect.

What I want is for enough hand sanitizer (or soap and paper towels) to take on visits.
I want face masks. Enough for the entire team, not two for 17 of us to use just in case its us who gets the call.
I want a manager who doesnt minimise whats happening, ignoring that this is the biggest health crisis in modern times and chooses to stand next to us instead of behind a desk.

Despite this, I will be there.
I will put the risk to myself and my own family to the back of my mind.

I will hold your hand when nobody else in this world will be by your side.

[Iamthewombat]

No1 is screwing anyone out of money.

I assume you don’t mean that your number one priority is screwing money out of anyone?

Every person who owns a business or works for an employer have asked for a pay rise

Yes, but they haven’t asked for a pay rise because the country is in crisis and they don’t want to do the job they signed up for.

Unless you are in front line of it all u won't understand.

You don’t know the first thing about me and yes, it is perfectly possible to understand the challenges of front line roles without performing them. Or are you suggesting that you’d make a better chief medical officer than the current incumbent? He’s not front line.

Just like the military. Now they have been drafted in how much do you think they are getting...

How is this relevant? Yes, you feel underpaid. So do plenty of other people. Does that give you an unassailable debating position? No.

[jadey0885]

@Iamthewombat
Listen I have put a post on here to hear people's opinions. If you don't like what I say or anyone else then go away and stop posting.

I'm am stating facts that are being said by the government and studies.

Good bye