To think mumsnet is making more fuss of corona than anywhere else on the Internet, or in general society

[FreshFancyFrogglette]

Just that! Until I checked mumsnet I realised we had a serious situation on our hands, and that hand washing is essential, and isolating if you have symptoms. And that was that, carried on as normal. But coming on here, and it's people convinced they are going to die because they've got asthma, people refusing to go into work (even though they don't have any symptoms), people planning for the end of the world. I'm sorry, but this just doesn't reflect the rest of the world. I was at my friend's last night, and apart from mentioning her partner needs to be careful because he's got cancer, it wasn't mentioned. Same when I went shopping. On here it's sounds like the world is ending. Aibu??

[Borisdaspide]

@peaceanddove your surgeon is full of nonsense. They knew about the Asian Flu as it was happening, and doctors specifically criticised the government's lack of response.

[HarveySchlumpfenburger]

That can’t be right from the retired surgeon general.

They were definitely aware of the 1918 flu during the event. It wasn’t initially reported across many countries. Obviously they discovered more about it after the event.

IIRC the reason it earned the name ‘Spanish Flu’ was because as a neutral country in WW1 they didn’t have the reporting restrictions in place that many other countries did. The first wave occurred in the US.

[peaceanddove]

@marsha I don't think the projected death rate would rise above the predicted 2%. And the NHS would probably be better able to cope because 98% of the population would be totally unaware of CV and would just think they'd had a cold and so you wouldn't get the idiots overwhelming the NHS with their panics over just having a cold.

[HarveySchlumpfenburger]

peaceanddove you have no idea. The problem we’re facing being overwhelmed with in the NHS is going to be beds and specifically ICU beds. The government are trying to flatten the curve because we don’t have enough ventilators and specially trained staff to cope with all the people who will need ventilating.

It’s got nothing to do with people who have colds.

[OldQueen1969]

Being totally unaware of CV19 and just going about with our normal lives would be a death sentence for a large number of people.

One can transmit when asymptomatic. One can start with mild symptoms which can rapidly become critical.

In your scenario, when the gen pop twigged they had been kept in the dark about a modern potential plague, the torches and pitchforks would be broken out in a heartbeat. The most dangerous people in the world are those who believe they have nothing left to lose. The informed majority are doing their best to help even out and delay the spread and save as many lives as possible. Some people will always behave like twats, many more will take sensible precautions in an effort to prevent the NHS being overwhelmed to stave off anarchy. This is UNCHARTED TERRITORY hence the overabundance of caution.

Oh yes, and as for secretly enjoying my particular hell within this new world, I can assure you I am not a masochist.

[OldQueen1969]

Nor am I a martyr. Or any derogatory term you care to use to try and convince me my plans and actions are a dramatic response to unnecessary hyperbole.

[Goldenbear]

'idiots overwhelming the NHS with their panics over just having a cold.' If anything this is hyperbole! How can idiots with a cold overwhelm the NHS when you are not even allowed to ring 111 when you are exhibiting symptoms of the Coronavirus? I am currently working from home as is my husband, we are between us trying to supervise our children's learning as my son's school is closed to year 8's and my DD's primary school do not have enough staff to safely run the school. Do you really think I like lots of people want to be in this situation for goodness knows how long!

[sadatchristmas1]

I work in retail and let me tell you people are crazy! The panic buying is at epic proportions. I have been shouted at and moaned at so many times because people can't buy what they need/want. We can't keep the stock on the shelves and people are grabbing stuff off the replenishment cages and trollies. I'm just amazed at how selfish some people are. They are buying months worth of food clearing whole shelves of tinned goods and dried food. Even stuff like chocolate and crisps! Don't get me started on toilet roll and paracetamol and hand wash. The rudeness is shocking!

[bellinisurge]

Not sure what is "carry on as normal" if you in your 70s

[MarshaBradyo]

so you wouldn't get the idiots overwhelming the NHS with their panics over just having a cold.

Peace not being able to breathe is not a nice way to go. I’d wouldn’t want anyone to find out even if they say the above.

[MarshaBradyo]

Nor that they might miss out in the ventilator to help them do so.

[AuldAlliance]

The projected deaths in the UK if CV is not stopped are nothing like 20k.
The researchers at Imperial suggest more like 250k.

www.imperial.ac.uk/news/196234/covid19-imperial-researchers-model-likely-impact/

My understanding is that those figures are for deaths directly caused by CV. When hospitals devote all wards and surgeries (cardio, neuro, cancer, etc.) to CV patients, there are a whole number of indirect deaths of people who can't get treatment for other illnesses.

[FreshFancyFrogglette]

:/. Balls. Well, I do kind of regret starting this post.. I stand by the fact that the attitude of people on mumsnet is a lot more grave than the people I'm in contact with in real life, in Facebook, or on the news. However, you have gone some way to convince me to be miserable about it, as in, I no fear the disease, and its consequence for me and family. I've still got friends messaging to pop in for a tea, and thinking I'm being over zealous if I mention the virus, and staying in, they also agree with my first interpretation, that a little bit of social contact is deemed necessary. It would be the mass social gathering, particular with strangers, that they feel is covered under government advice. However, on here, I shouldn't have friends or family over, apart from, I guess when I pick my daughter up for the weekend. Try convincing my mum not to pop in for mothers day, ther is just no way, she'll be coming no matter what I day. But according to this thread that would be breaking official advice?! :(

[TheCanterburyWhales]

Because you're in the bookies not a field hospital ICU in Bergamo perhaps?
Turn the telly on love. Watch the lunchtime news. Educate yourself. Because you fucking need it.

Queen- don't post anymore on this kind of GF thread. Come back to the sane one don't use your energy on this kind of shit.

[Lweji]

Op, you really need to get in contact with real people and real news from Italy, for example.

Posts like this remind me of the Titanic.
Remember when it was known that the ship was going to sink but people still disbelieved it or didn't rush to the few life boats?

It's coming. The hull is already damaged.

[Lweji]

I'm in a country that is probably at the same stage as the UK, possibly a couple of weeks behind.
We're taking it a lot more seriously.
I haven't been with my mum for over a week and today I went for a walk in a deserted town, and had a chat with my mum through the window.
OP tell your mum to stay put.

[RedToothBrush]

I stand by the fact that the attitude of people on mumsnet is a lot more grave than the people I'm in contact with in real life, in Facebook, or on the news.

People in your bubble have a certain attitude. That's not necessarily reflective of the rest of the world. We have had a lot of talk in recent years about how social media echo chambers can distort things and give us false impressions of the world.

We've already established that you don't pay huge attention to the news because you don't understand what the guidelines are.

And then you post this:

It would be the mass social gathering, particular with strangers, that they feel is covered under government advice. However, on here, I shouldn't have friends or family over, apart from, I guess when I pick my daughter up for the weekend. Try convincing my mum not to pop in for mothers day, ther is just no way, she'll be coming no matter what I day. But according to this thread that would be breaking official advice?!

Which rather illustrates the point.

Yes they mean all non essential social contact including with family who do not live in the same household as you.

Johnson said in his speech
"Now is the time for everyone to stop non-essential contact with others and to stop all unnecessary travel."

It is not essential to celebrate mothers day.

All fun is cancelled until further notice. That's ENTIRELY the point.

[RedToothBrush]

Your mother might come over. It might not matter what you say. She can not force you to open the door though.

Growing a backbone and telling her not to come would be easier option though.

Point is you don't want to. Because you think the advice doesn't apply to you.

[FreshFancyFrogglette]

I'm not going to stop my mum coming in 😂, sorry, but u havent met my mum.

[Lweji]

I just hope none of you end up regretting it

[Lweji]

Food for thought

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/coronavirus/3852726-NHS-worker-here-Please-self-isolate

[FreshFancyFrogglette]

Wierd, my friends was in hospital on monday and said it was dead quiet, quickest waiting time in A&E for years 🤔. I think it depends where you are, certain areas are obviously worse than others.

[FreshFancyFrogglette]

I am not dismissing it out of hand, but I am questioning it, because it contradicts all other experiences of hospital I've heard from workers, and visitors this week. We've only had a handful of confirmed cases in the city I live in though.

[Overthinker1988]

You're right in that lots of people aren't taking it seriously, in this country - yet. Not true for the rest of the world though. Just been talking to a friend in my home country - European country, only 50 or so cases. There's a state of emergency, it's illegal to leave your house except for groceries, medicine and work, if you work in a frontline job. Schools are off, streets deserted, everything except supermarkets and pharmacies is shut, everybody who can work from home is working from home.
Friend is fed up stuck at home so wants to go for a walk in the nearby mountain and was wondering whether it's worth risking being stopped by police. This is in a capital city in the EU.
This is what it will be like in the UK soon if people don't start sticking to the government guidelines voluntarily.
So to answer your question, no it's not just Mumsnet hysteria.