Do you reckon the uk will go into an official lockdown?

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Just that really. I understand theirs a lot of suggesting going on but will they officially make people stay in or take responsibility?

I think some areas maybe eg London? to avoid those fleeing to 2nd homes like it happened in Italy. Hard to say

If my mum’s friends are anything to go by, a lot of people don’t give a toss about the new advice and are carrying on like they’re immune. So the government might see how it goes then have to take stronger measures like the rest of Europe has done.

I give it a week

I bloody hope so. Our BEST case scenario without it looks like roughly one ICU bed for every 1000 people that will need them. Very grave and sad.

www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/sph/ide/gida-fellowships/Imperial-College-COVID19-NPI-modelling-16-03-2020.pdf

Yes, because some people seem unable to grasp the guidance and are doing everything in their power to try to justify them not following it. So because of these people we will all be put in lock down.

yes thats what Im thinking, there will come a point when the government will have to impose a lockdown? At the moment theyre asking nicely.

Yes because people are selfish.

I think so. Some people seem completely unable to grasp that things like softplay, baby massage and meals at the pub are non-essential social contact. Either that or they don't give a shit

No. We don’t have the culture or the manpower to enforce it, and I don’t think people would listen if we did... but we’re also going for a herd immunity response, and lockdown is the opposite of that. I’m expecting the advice to get stricter and tell vulnerable and old people to self isolate soon, but I don’t think there will be any major lockdown news imminently.

Italy & Spain didn’t find closing schools helped; it contributed to the spread in both countries. The same would happen here, probably worse. The people locally who have taken their kids out of school are taking them to parks, to soft play, the cinema. The gym and supermarket were rammed yesterday and the gym crèche was full.

We have a very “I’m alright, Jack” mentality as a country right now; and that makes lockdown almost impossible. You need a large proportion of people onboard to flatten the curve.

I think they're giving people the opportunity to behave responsibly, and if they don't, it'll be lockdown. Rightly so.

I don’t think it’s because people aren’t ‘grasping’ the advice. Some of it has been crap and some of it not clear. Suggesting we avoid restaurants is not as clear as telling people to avoid. If it’s shut people can’t go. So Boris should have said all restaurants, pubs, theatres etc must close. People just go to work and do essential shopping and then go home. If we all did this we’d have a chance. Bloody schools still open, madness.

I really hope so. So many people have lost their jobs in the last couple of days because the government haven't made it 'official', meaning employers can't claim insurance to cover wages during the downtime. Life isn't going to be worth living for those who survive the virus if things carry on like this.

I suspect we may have to. Some local people and businesses just don't seem to be taking it seriously at all.

The govt has advised to work from home and yet offices are still full - why?

My local theatre is still open and says on Facebook that's ok because 'the cleaners use anti-bac and we're trying to get more hand gel to scatter about for everyone to use'

My local gym is open and says it's fine because everyone will be asked to wipe down equipment.

It's just bonkers. What's wrong with them!

Yes because many people can't afford to follow the advice. I just had an employee with a health condition that means he should self isolate for 12 weeks ask if he would get full pay. No, we can't afford that, we can barely afford the 12 weeks SSP. So people will ignore the advice rather than starve or lose their homes.

I think it's the only way to go. Hopefully those who are selfish and don't comply, will either find there's no attraction in going out once everything closes down, or dare I say risk arrest other than if out for work, shopping or genuinely helping someone in isolation. .

I really don't understand people who take their kids out of school, and then go to soft play. I completely understand taking them out of school (against official advice), but do they think soft play is somehow cleaner than school?

@Janus that's exactly my thought, if the government told everyone now to close then the economical fallout will be easier, at the end of it if it continues the amount of people who are going to be in rent arrears or lose their businesses is going to be horrendous.

I think we need to - people will not cooperate if they are not banned from doing things. People don't seem to grasp the idea of the separation between essential and non-essential activity. I have been sincerely shocked by people interpreting going to the gym as acceptable.

The government's lack of clarity is to blame too though: this whole, "it would be jolly sporting of you all just to leave off the pub visits" message is not strong enough. A lot of the clarity yesterday was only achieved through the journalists' questions to the PM, and still, it is very much up to people's interpretation what "non essential social contact" means.

I reckon it will be Friday.... Pushing it as close to the Easter holidays as possible

Yesterday I would have said no, now I think yes.
And that will trigger even more panic buying in the supermarkets.

@BlackWhitePurple Bloody hell that is monumentally stupid. Soft play is a cesspit of germs at the best of times.

Yes, because I’m still getting messages from friends asking if I fancy lunch at the weekend, if I want to play tennis. Too many people aren’t listening.

The Daily Fail (sorry) is reporting fines up to £1,000 and imprisonment for people who don't comply. That's what they do in Italy & Spain.

There is a thread with contributions from someone in Spain I think who explains it really well.

Presumably this is when a state of emergency is declared & the army are drafted in to help

Yes. Possibly after the Easter holidays. I agree with others, people and businesses aren't taking it seriously. My daughter's dance school is staying open, they see themselves as education, so like schools aren't closing. This annoys me as it's a hobby not compulsory. If I don't send my daughter they will still expect me to pay.

No.

The wheels will come off the economy if we do.