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To think that China needs to act

186 replies

Dongdingdong · 17/03/2020 10:10

From what I understand, the coronavirus originated in a wet market in Wuhan that sold animals both dead and alive. According to the Telegraph, these markets "pose a heightened risk of viruses jumping from animals to humans because hygiene standards are difficult to maintain if live animals are being kept and butchered on site. Typically, they are also densely packed."

Also: "The animal source of the latest outbreak has not yet been identified, but the original host is thought to be bats. Bats were not sold at the Wuhan market but may have infected live chickens or other animals sold there. Bats are host to a wide range of zoonotic viruses including Ebola, HIV and rabies."

When this latest pandemic dies down, the Chinese government needs to ban these wet markets entirely. Will the rest of the world be putting pressure on them to do so or will we simply continue as before until the next pandemic breaks out?

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RogueV · 17/03/2020 22:31

@haveanicedayx

We went to China On holiday in 2008 and there were cats and dogs in the markets in cages and also hung up as meat for sale, with a dog meat restaurant above the market

ChardonnaysPetDragon · 17/03/2020 22:33

You are big on nit picking, and meagre on content.

An unknown virus, not a new virus. A seafood market so obviously nothing else would be sold there.

What's wrong with you?

Cam77 · 17/03/2020 22:34

China is keeping the US economy afloat (and vice versa of course). Not to mention sanctions would also massively hike prices of consumer goods across Europe.
Sanctions? Dream on. That boat sailed 30-40 years ago.

ShanghaiDiva · 17/03/2020 22:35

@ChardonnaysPetDragon
No need to be rude. I did ‘t Say it was about me. I don’t live in Wuhan.
I was pointing out that festivities in some cities were cancelled when we found out about the virus. It spread because we didn’t know it was spreading.
School finished around 15th January so people were already moving before the holiday started.

PlanDeRaccordement · 17/03/2020 22:35

Puzzled- yes, I have. While visiting family.

ChardonnaysPetDragon · 17/03/2020 22:35

Chine is now singlehandedly sinking the whole world economy.

ChardonnaysPetDragon · 17/03/2020 22:38

You don't have to say it, we all know you don't live in Wuhan. We are talking about the missed containment in Wuhan.

PlanDeRaccordement · 17/03/2020 22:38

Chardonnay says the person who has posted zero relevant content and doesn’t comprehend that “unknown etiology” means not yet identified and thus could be a known virus or a new virus but they can’t know until it’s isolated.

Cam77 · 17/03/2020 22:38

When is the West going to sanction itself over climate change, namely its huge carbon footprint, present and historical, and it’s current irresponsible outsourcing of manufacturing and resultant pollution to China? The coming climate crisis will be far wider reaching than this.

haveanicedayx · 17/03/2020 22:38

RogueV I have never seen something so disgusting in my life.

ShanghaiDiva · 17/03/2020 22:40

Not all wet markets sell dog, but all the ones I have seen have hygiene standards well below the uk standard.

ChardonnaysPetDragon · 17/03/2020 22:41

What I know is that it could have been stopped. It wasn't.

It could have been prevented by banning the disgraceful markets, and it could have been stoped in the early days. Neither happened.

DrSheldonCooperPHD · 17/03/2020 22:43

The video explains why it was allowed to happen in the first place, when it was stopped and why it was allowed to restart months after SARS.

ShanghaiDiva · 17/03/2020 22:45

We all know it could have been stopped. It wasn’t and now we deal with the consequences. Going over and over what should have happened achieves nothing. What we do now is the most important thing.

ShanghaiDiva · 17/03/2020 22:46

Being rude to me doesn’t achieve anything either. Does it really make you feel better?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 17/03/2020 22:47

are those dogs alive in that cage?

Well, they were when the photo was taken; however if you care to research Chinese festivals you'll find that their deaths are often not quite what would be expected in europe

That's different to what's reported to have happened in the wet markets of course, but it serves to show, shall we say, a different approach which is unlikely to be eradicated any time soon

ChardonnaysPetDragon · 17/03/2020 22:47

I'm not being rude to you.

I'm Pointing out that some parts of your post were not relevant. Sorry you feel offended.

Alpacasmum · 17/03/2020 22:49

Completely agree Nikki 360
If you mess with Mother Nature - she will have the last laugh!

PlanDeRaccordement · 17/03/2020 22:53

It took China 26days to ban the sale and consumption of wild animals.

Yet this is legal in the U.K. You can buy meat boxes of hunted wild game
www.primalmeats.co.uk/get-primal-eat-wild-game-meat

ChardonnaysPetDragon · 17/03/2020 22:54

Has it been 26 days since the SARS epidemic?

Feels longer.

haveanicedayx · 17/03/2020 23:07

PlanDeRaccordement - You are coming across a total idiot.

Miljea · 17/03/2020 23:11

Plan you seem very invested in China's lack of culpability in this global catastrophe...

Long ago, I, prewarned by Lonely Planet, visited a Canton 'wet market', in 1987, 😳backpacking. Thus not 'touring', or on a package.

What I saw then has come home to roost today. The difference is, third world loop Congolese consuming wild meat did not have the ability to transmit their acquired diseases globally; the Chinese do. And have evidently continud to do.

China has to ask itself a fundamental question.

Are you now First World or still 'developing world'?

Make your fucking mind up and behave accordingly.

EdithHope · 17/03/2020 23:11

@ChardonnaysPetDragon
What I know is that it could have been stopped. I'm sorry, I must have missed the post where you stated your credentials in curing viruses and ending pandemics Hmm

I'm sorry to resort to sarcasm, but even though you're angry and upset at the situation (which many people also are) your posts are inflammatory and unfounded.

Thank you @PlanDeRaccordement for bringing some reason to this thread.

ChardonnaysPetDragon · 17/03/2020 23:17

Well, even ShaghaiDiva says it could have been stopped. I suppose she has the same credentials.

ShanghaiDiva · 17/03/2020 23:25

No need to snipe at me thanks.
No need to set me up as an expert either, when you spend your time dismissing my comments.
We all know actions could have been taken earlier and we know that the virus spread as the Chinese travelled all over the world for the new year holiday, not knowing they were taking the virus with them.