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To feel scared and embarrassed to live in the U.K. right now?

142 replies

Notcontent · 15/03/2020 23:08

We have a PM who is an arrogant muppet who really only cares about himself and doesn’t give a toss about anyone else.

Wes don’t have respirators, oxygen, or even basic medical equipment. The government knew this and should have started doing something two months ago when it all kicked off.

How is hand washing going to help my daughter who has to get a crowded bus to school, with people coughing and sneezing into her face.

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Notcontent · 15/03/2020 23:26

Doyoumind - putting aside the fact that the NHS has been struggling for years, as soon as it was obvious that this virus was likely to spread (this was obvious to me 2 months ago) they should have taken urgent action to procure extra medical equipment, extra hospital beds, etc. They should also have started making a plan for how to respond to this.

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Doyoumind · 15/03/2020 23:26

Other countries will come out of lockdown and see a resurgence. They won't have got rid of it. People don't seem to understand that.

SuckingDieselFella · 15/03/2020 23:27

@RaspberryBubblegum
Hold onto that sense of humour.

You may need it in the days to come.

Doyoumind · 15/03/2020 23:27

As I said on another thread, in January and for 3 years before it, everyone has been focused on fucking Brexit.

Wanderlust21 · 15/03/2020 23:31

Even if it was 'just the flu' I dont think ppl pedeling that phrase have actually had the flu. It isn't a walk in the park.

I got fired because I was too delirious to call in sick - for three days! Technically I could have gone to get a doctors note and saved my ass but I had just moved to the area and didn't have a new doc yet. And was too sick to travel to see the old ones. So just thought 'stick your job!' and went back to bed.

Took three weeks to shift the symptoms and a fourth week still exhausted. There were a couple of really hairy moments. Tf I was young and healthy.

'Just' flu! Ha!

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Notcontent · 15/03/2020 23:31

This is a classic mumsnet response - “find another way to get your dd to school”. Like? A magic carpet? We don’t have a car. It’s too far for her to walk.

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todayisnottuesday · 15/03/2020 23:33

Other countries will come out of lockdown and see a resurgence. They won't have got rid of it. People don't seem to understand that.

I understand that is a theory, but no one knows whether true or not.

todayisnottuesday · 15/03/2020 23:35

Same goes for herd immunity.

Gobbycop · 15/03/2020 23:37

Flue.

😂

Amboseli · 15/03/2020 23:38

@Doyoumind, exactly. And even now, somebody in gov has to spend time and resources on doing whatever they're doing to 'make Britain great again' instead of all hands on deck to deal with this crisis.

Nobody seems to be thinking about next Jan when there will be huge delays for imports etc and probable food shortages, difficulty in obtaining medicines from Europe. And the second wave of covid will be attacking us, possibly a more deadly strain.

Things could get even worse than they are now.

thegcatsmother · 15/03/2020 23:41

Egghead It was thought it was confined to China - Italy didn't see this coming, not did Spain.

There is a group called ISARIC (International Severe Acute Respiratory and Emergency Infection Consortium) set up a decade ago to prepare sleeping protocols to ensure that researchers are ready to meet the challenge of any dangerous new virus (from the Sunday Times today).

Some experts are quoted as saying that quarantine as per Italy will not work, and what is the exit strategy? What if things haven't improved by April? How long can you keep the entire population of a country in quarantine for?

One upside of COVID-19 is that ISIS are advising their followers not to go to Europe!

scunner · 15/03/2020 23:41

There has always been a shortage of ICU beds. My daughter in law works in Intensive care and long before this outbreak, there has been constant juggling of beds in the department. The lack of equipment is due to lack of funding!

Pixxie7 · 15/03/2020 23:42

To some extent I know how op feels. Are we saying that every other country is wrong and we are right. The NHS is on its knees something the government won’t acknowledge. They can plow millions in but too little too late. All this delay is purely to deflect from the mess the Government has made of the country.

yourethecomebackkid · 15/03/2020 23:43

It is an uncertain and scary time but everywhere, every country - no matter what their government is doing - is feeling the same OP. There is no magic solution that is known to be 100% effective and will avoid loss of life.

From the outside (I am not in the UK) the herd immunity makes sense to me. I accept that is easy for me to say because I am not there. But it least it seems a plan, a strategy with an underlying scientific basis - which is better than the throw their hands in the air and make ad hoc decisions 2 weeks too late without an overall guiding principle (that they are telling us about) in mind that we have in NZ.

thegcatsmother · 15/03/2020 23:43

Notcontent Keep your daughter off school then. If you don't say that you don't have a car, how am I supposed to know that? Does she/you have friends who could offer a lift?

yourethecomebackkid · 15/03/2020 23:44

oops pressed too soon - I guess what I am saying is we all feel desperately worried and can only hope our respective governments are making the decisions they have been advised to for the overall benefit of their people.

todayisnottuesday · 15/03/2020 23:45

One upside of COVID-19 is that ISIS are advising their followers not to go to Europe!

Grin
Imstillskanking · 15/03/2020 23:48

Sorry but it's the flue

Currently self isolating and really needed a good laugh. Thank you Grin

Wehttam · 15/03/2020 23:52

April isn’t it too early for a fool?

BlackForestCake · 15/03/2020 23:58

Because Corbyn, Abbott and McDonnell would have done it so much better?

Yes, they fucking would.

They would be funding the NHS properly in the first place.

They would be requistioning hospitals and hotels to treat the infected.

They would be putting emergency payments in place so that businesses can afford to close and workers can afford to stay home.

They would be acting like a government is supposed to do in a crisis.

JustInCaseCakeHappens · 16/03/2020 00:00

YANBU

the system is always at breaking point at the best of time - every single years we have articles about people left waiting for hours without treatment and dying because of the state of things.

Any increase in numbers will be catastrophic. If we can't even cope for a bout of D&V, how can people imagine we can cope with covid19. We clearly cannot. It's frightening.

And what happens if you have an accident or another medical emergency? Nothing, because there won't be anyone available to help you.

SuckingDieselFella · 16/03/2020 00:01

@BlackForestCake

And they could fucking call in their mates in the IRA and Hamas to enforce a lockdown.

Iflyaway · 16/03/2020 00:01

the herd immunity makes sense to me

My understanding is that herd immunity only works with a vaccine.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/15/epidemiologist-britain-herd-immunity-coronavirus-covid-19

JustInCaseCakeHappens · 16/03/2020 00:01

One upside of COVID-19 is that ISIS are advising their followers not to go to Europe!

every cloud Grin

we could give them immunity and canoes and let them go home.

EmeraldShamrock · 16/03/2020 00:02

@Notcontent I would take her out of school now, it is only going to be days before they close, if they fine you rip it up.