Why are some people carrying on as normal?

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Why are some people carrying on as normal?

Genuine question... Why are some people going to restaurants, bars, theatres, cinemas, soft play etc? I honestly don't understand?

I would agree. The poorer members of society are ALWAYS more affected and can’t restrict themselves as much

I can't work from home (Retail manager working between 3 shops).

It can't be far off the time when they will close all non-food shops/pharmacies like they've done in France.

I work in a town that mainly employs people in fish production factories.
That's a lot of us socializing/travelling every day.
Business as usual here.

If I don't go to work I don't get paid. I work in close proximity to 300+ people in a factory....I'm more likely to catch it there than the local coffee shop that seats 20.

Because people can not comprehend the magnitude and implications for some people if they don't work. Homelessness and starvation could be a real possibility for some

^^ This.

And even if I could sit at home while being paid to do so, or could WFH (lucky people who can), the less I go out and do stuff, the more likely other people are to be laid off and thrown into their own nightmare situations.

My DC's schools aren't shut (they are doing GCSEs and A levels this year) and they are fit and healthy, so there is no reason for them not to be going about their normal business, either.

Quite apart from that, I will become clinically depressed if I can't go out. Being bankrupt will not help this. Staying in might be enforced at some point, but until then, I will be carrying on as normal.

Because people cannot comprehend the magnitude and implications of Covid19.

Equally, people cannot comprehend the magnitude and implications of shutdown.

Because people can not comprehend the magnitude and implications for some people if they don't work. Homelessness and starvation could be a real possibility for some.

This. And fgs, plenty of people do not own their own home, they rent. If they don't pay their rent for even one month they can be served notice to quit. People on keyed meters have to go out to top them up, not all are able to be on smart meters.

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Considering a large proportion of my customers are 60+ you'd think they'd call it now but nope. Business as usual for me.
We will be the last non food/pharmacy part of retail still standing.
Other companies in my field have just announced they're closing in Rep Ireland but I won't hold my breath.

The dead and I'll cant pay Bill's but the healthy and living can sure pay their debts off

What about the people who can't get credit? It's all very well saying people can pay off debt, but what if they can't even borrow the money. Plus A LOT of people can't afford to pay off the debt they already have WHILE earning a living.
What about people who rent. Even if mortgage payments are put on hold, who will police private landlords?

Yes, Im, particularly people who are in gig jobs or temp jobs, it's harder to get credit, if at all.

Life has to go, you can’t just come to a screeching halt

I fully understand why measures are being put in but who will pick the mess, unpaid bills when this settles down and is no longer considered an issue?

People should start thinking about the fall out of all of this come the end of the year i.e. Companies, shops closing for good as no product is being sold

If things break, I.e. gas boiler, who will come and fix it?

We are in for a rough ride but life will go on and the sun will rise in the east as normal 👍👍

As for the FB experts, wish they would quote their sources of information 😳😳😡

No it doesn't have to go on and yes you can and you absolutely should come to a screeching halt.

Just today there are 6 counties in northern California that are under a shelter in place order - no leaving your home except to walk a pet, get exercise, go to the supermarket.

In my own American suburb schools are shut and so are restaurants and bars, and all public facilities.

The courts have closed. No eviction notices can be processed.

Homelessness and starvation could be a real possibility for some.

This is why the government should be indicating they will support individuals in concrete ways to get through this. I am talking about direct financial support, and a moratorium on rent and mortgages and utility payments.

It says a lot about how people feel about the Tories that this sort of solution to the problem is inconceivable.

We have to carry on here. I am on maternity leave and my partner is self employed. If he doesn't work he won't get paid and my maternity pay will not cover the bills.

In my opinion the government are not doing enough to help. They have given home owners a few months mortgage holiday however they haven't done anything for renters. France are apparently giving people a stay on their bills such as rent/mortgage, gas/electric etc.

The other thing that I think they should do is move the council tax payment months. We usually pay April - January and Feb and March are free. They could make the 2 free months April and May perhaps.

Because whilst schools are still open people don't really believe it's that bad going by what I hear on the school run.

Our schools are open and claim they will not close under any circumstances, after school clubs still running, outside clubs like gym etc are still coming into schools and carrying on.

I really do hope that schools close this Friday, I'm more than happy to kept my family home for however long to protect the vulnerable

who will police private landlords?

It would be really easy for the government to put a temporary stop on courts ordering evictions. Hopefully that will happen sooner rather than later.

Because they have assessed the risk to themselves and deemed it to be low. They are unable or unwilling to assess the risk they may present to others.

Pp who are saying people have to work or they won't get paid, how do you excuse those in cafes etc? If social contact was limited to only those who had to work, we'd already be able to significantly reduce the risk. But unfortunately last month's #BeKind quickly became #FuckYou.

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15/03/2020 21:38GrumpyHoonMain

The government wants the young and healthy to get the virus so let them carry on. Provided they have the sense to keep away from at risk family / friends it’s ok.'.

How do yog propose 'healthy people' keep away from cancer patients, elderly people who need home help or other services? Symtoms can take 5 days to come out so people catching it and passing it on more freely is surely going to increase the chances of people in these services catching it and then passing it on the the 'isolated' vulnerable within out society. My answer op would be ignorance; people dont like being told what to do and think they know better than the experts.

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If I thought the govt was testing and tracing properly, I would be less inclined to cut off all social contact. But they aren't and so we have no way of knowing just how bad this is here.
I also look at the rest of Europe and am not willing to stake my families lives on this govt being right and everyone else's being wrong. If Boris told me it was raining, I'd look out of the window and check!

Wrt the economy and keeping the economy ticking over, I totally get the need to go to work if your job is essential, but no one needs to go to the cinema etc. If people stopped these activities, then people who have to go out to work would have their risk of infection reduced. The govt should do what France is doing in terms of cancelling bills and giving money to small businesses, so they survive this.

I will be keeping my children home now and only leaving the house to buy food, since I am also responsible for my vulnerable parents as well as my DC. I know I risk catching it in Aldi, but I feel it's responsible to minimise contact.

'The govt should do what France is doing in terms of cancelling bills and giving money to small businesses, so they survive this.'

There have been talks of helping businesses and those who depend on their work so I do think something will be done.

Those of us who are able to wfh, have time off to self isolate without going hungry or stay home if school gets closed should absolutely not be carrying on as normal.

Social distancing IS NOT ABOUT YOU.

There are people who have NO choice but to carry on working, or they starve or lose their homes. Those are the people I am self isolating for. I'd feel pretty awful if I was living my normal life, contracted the virus, and inadvertently passed it on to someone who cannot take time off sick, or who is vulnerable or caring for someone vulnerable.