Why are some people carrying on as normal?

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Why are some people carrying on as normal?

Genuine question... Why are some people going to restaurants, bars, theatres, cinemas, soft play etc? I honestly don't understand?

Many European countries are closing borders, shutting schools, restaurants, bars, sporting events etc. They’re patrolling streets and telling people to stay indoors. This is an unprecedented response in modern times. And you wonder why people are a bit worried?

Ladiva please look after yourselves!!!! Thank you to all you supermarket workers though, you will have no doubt seen the worst types of behaviour but also some glimmers of hope for society.

Stay healthy!

DippyAvocado

But the US are taking stronger action than the Uk, how come if both countries are working on the same or a similar theory?

I’m making the most of the lack of parents and children everywhere! Loving it! 😂

Why are we acting normally?There are only 4 cases Inoue county so my DD goes to college and I go to work.
I am an NHS worker so will carry on as long as I can,do you really want me to stay at home while I am well?

What’s happened in the shops when we all tried shopping at the same time is what will happen in the hospitals when we all get sick together.

Flatten the curve.

meaning we are in CONSCIOUS control of our immune system and endocrine system.

What? How does that work for those with diabetes/ autoimmune disorders?

I think it's about maintaining a balance. I'm still going to the shops, going for walks, etc, but at the same time following advice re handwashing, using tissues, keeping a distance from other people, etc. I will follow the rules to the letter if I get any symptoms or if we have to go into lockdown.
I personally have confidence in the 60% herd immunity model, so I'm prepared to play my own tiny role in that. If I get sick and (hopefully) recover I will be one of the 60% protecting all of society.

Can I just say again. As I have said on other threads.

HERD IMMUNITY IS NOT A VIABLE PLAN. IT IS THE OPPOSITE.

Phew again...

Sir Vallance has himself said that his comments on herd immunity are taken out of context. They do not want lots of people to get it to get herd immunity.

I personally have confidence in the 60% herd immunity model
That is not the plan!

If it were, millions would be sick and half a million would die.

Wethamm It has been hard work some people are like locusts, I have been screamed at for telling people that we have a 1 packet of toilet roll rule and nappies, pasta, rice, eggs etc, people are so selfish. One customer wanted to buy 5 boxes of nappies so I told him one packet only and he was yelling that his baby was important, and I said your baby is no more important than anyone else's baby. And I have to go back tomorrow to deal with this shit...…….

Because I have to "Keep London Moving". I run Tube stations. If I don't go to work, the station closes, and so other essential workers like NHS staff can't help people who are poorly.
Because I don't drive and use my employer's public transport to get to work, to the shops etc. I would walk to work, but it takes three hours each way. I am not getting a bike, cycling is too fucking dangerous in the capital.
Because my colleague whom I probably never see again because he lives a long way from London is leaving the job and we arranged a drink to see him off two months ago.
Because my Dad is terminally Ill and the only way I can visit by public transport as often as I can before the day he dies. He cannot come to London, it's way to dangerous for him.
Because my daughter is an only, her friends are her virtual sisters, and they'd go spare if school closed. WhatsApp video calling isn't the same.

I wash my hands regularly all day. I don't have symptoms (but think I had something similar in January, like a lot of people in my friendship group). I stay away from friends and coworkers who are at risk. I don't shake hands with anyone. I am careful, but I still need to carry on for other people.

@catspyjamas123 .. your employer has not been leant on by Government.

I work in central government and we've had very little communication about this at all. Private sector companies seem much better prepared.

I get the feeling there's total confusion at senior Gov level and individual departments are afraid of setting an agenda that contradicts whatever the overall policy turns out to be.

But the US are taking stronger action than the Uk, how come if both countries are working on the same or a similar theory?

That is why the UK government are being so heavily criticised. Because they are doing almost nothing to achieve flattening the curve! If we carry on as we are, we are going to be the steep curve, with far too many people ill at the same time. As I quoted upthread, that will mean people treated in makeshift tent hospitals rather than in ICU beds. That's why everyday activities need to be curtailed now.

@Suggestives that’s interesting. So just good business practice then!

The U.K. government has failed us. We need to flatten the curve and that means staying home. Otherwise we’ll have 8m in hospital.

Because out of nearly 1 million there are only 6 cases in my county. It would be stupid to lock yourselves up for weeks and weeks on end. I've done one week already with a toddler that's been off nursery (for other reasons) and I'm starting to bite the kids heads off because there either screaming at me or annoying me or just plain not listening. Today we managed the cinema and a meal afterwards no worries there. Yesterday I did shopping because well I need to eat and so do my children

Because normalcy bias.

To those still going on as normal - it might not be too bad, but ONLY if you take the precaution of staying indoors. If you keep going out, it will get worse. So if you want to prove it'll be fine... stay inside.

And how do you know you never come into contact with high risk people? Do you know by looking at strangers in the supermarket?

Birds has only made plans for the over 70s... apparently everything else is fine.

Weve had my brother up from london this weekend. Done normal things, sat in pubs. The seafront has been rammed with people all weekend.
Until told otherwise, life goes on.

Because

Spanish flu was bigger than this though

Spanish flu lasted for three years. So far coronavirus has been going for three or four months that we know of.

Until now most of us have had very little reason to know very much about Spanish flu, myself included.

Did you know, for example, that St Louis in America closed its schools for 143 day’s? This isn’t going to be done and dusted in five minutes and people need to get used to that idea calmly and quietly, and start thinking about how they are going to manage. It isn’t going to go away, and it’s something we have to get through together as a society because it’s an attack on us all. We need to work together on this because we are all potential transmitters of the virus.

Lockdown hasn’t worked that well in Italy

It’s early days, but in the early stages people simply didn’t take it seriously enough and lived up to the Italian stereotype - happy go lucky with a lack respect for authority and rules. They are now bitterly regretting it and begging the rest of the world not to make the same mistakes. The BBC are not telling the story of what is happening abroad in nearly enough. detail, preferring to keep running toilet paper stories as if it’s all a bit of a joke.

Flattening the curve is important. Herd immunity is a separate issue. We really want to reduce the speed of the spread rather than having lots of people get it quickly.

It's a really tough call for people.

@rootchakralightworkr I honestly don’t know what you are on about but your approach sounds like pure eugenics to me. Even those not in 100% health have value as human beings.