Keep seeing people say “loads” of healthy young people are seriously ill/dying in Italy?

[DennisReynoldsDuster]

...but I can’t see where this is coming from. Stats I mean. I’m already terrified for my nan, parents and elderly neighbour and doing what I can in my community to help elderly or vulnerable people.
But I keep seeing posts on here saying young healthy people are dying (no underlying conditions) and it’s making me even more worried. I understand it’s sadly inevitable that some young healthy people will die but the way some posters are making it sound like we are basically all going to die...

Can anyone point me in the direction of useful stats? I’ve looked at worldometer.

And I’m not trying to scaremonger I’m genuinely wondering whether these statements are true or not. I didn’t think we knew enough yet about the evolving numbers to make statements like that

Anyone?

You sound like you DO want to scaremonger

I don’t know the answer. But I certainly hope it’s not true. But I think we all need to be vigilant at the moment.

Where did you hear this? Challenge the source.

Its because an Italian doctor in hospital said they were no longer admitting over 65s into hospital because the icu was full of young healthy people struggling to breathe. Was an italian doctor on sky news website who said it. I dont know about statistics but he is the source if that helps?

www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/
Age 0-9 no deaths
Age 10-39 death rate of 0.2%
Age 40-49 death rate of 0.4%
Nowhere has had loads of young people dying.

The youngest person to die is a 38 year old man with multiple health issues.

A completely healthy 47 year old paramedic also died this weekend.

Flask thats at least 2 children for every secondary school round here 😱

And I’m not trying to scaremonger I’m genuinely wondering whether these statements are true or not

Well then ask the people who are saying these things where they got their information from.

The fact that you're asking everyone to confirm unconfirmed rumours that you've heard from unknown sources whom you apparently can't challenge for yourself does look like you're trying to cause unnecessary panic, doesn't it?

Possibly there will be a few, it may be that they have underlying conditions that are undiagnosed or not currently understood. I read in one of the UK papers a few minutes ago that the youngest UK victim was 59, & that they were all ill in some way already. Very sad for all of them, of course, & their families.

I imagine even for a young, fit & healthy person, CV is going to be potentially pretty rough. It’s being compared to a bad bout of flu... I’ve had flu (in my early 20s) & I felt hideous for absolutely weeks.

Two thirty-nine year olds have died, both with existing conditions. A man who died at home, diabetic, obese and various other complications and a woman, had undergone treatment for cancer died in hospital.
Those are the under 40s up to yesterday.

"Some data from the Lombardy #Covid19 outbreak — like elsewhere, almost no deaths under age 50."

mobile.twitter.com/HelenBranswell/status/1238453491917631489

The risk of dying if you’re under 60 years old is 1%.
It increases rapidly for 70 year olds.

That said, I think - these days - 60s and 70s are still quite young. In general, we are living longer lives. While it’s not very young, I still think it’s quite young.

www.ad.nl/binnenland/40-a-50-nederlandse-coronapatienten-op-intensive-cares-meer-dan-de-helft-is-onder-de-vijftig~a058aad2/

There have been at least 3 babies diagnosed with it, of which 1 was in Wuhan in early February. That baby has now entirely recovered with minimal medical intervention. It really does seem that the younger someone is, the less likely CV is to be dangerous for them.

People really need to read what has actually happened so far -

www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0163445320301018

Median age is 47 - that’s the median age of those needing emergency care......the NHS will not cope and although children don’t die, they do get it and can get it seriously. If we have no ventilators what will happen?

Please bear in mind that younger people who are seriously affected are still overwhelmingly going to be those with existing serious health issues.

Agnes I am concerned about the NHS and ventilators and staffing. However that study was based on a small sample and things have, unfortunately, progressed since that date.

Please bear in mind that younger people who are seriously affected are still overwhelmingly going to be those with existing serious health issues.

Well, that's OK then.

Is it not a peer reviewed legitimate sample of the ongoing situation? Do you think children are more or less at risk as things have moved on

Sorry *?

I wasn't saying it was ok. I was saying that only looking at the ages of those who have died rather than alongside other data gives you very little to start building hypotheses upon.

Agnes it was published a few weeks ago and we now have around 160,000 diagnosed cases world wide. There is no evidence to suggest young and healthy people are going to be at significant risk. There is a very low risk. Updated stats don’t support that this virus is a significant risk to children, which is obviously very important. Seasonal flu is riskier to otherwise healthy children.
This is a whole different kettle of fish, especially to other age groups.

Where are your up to date stats in comparable detail?

There is a hospital in the netherlands and 50% of its patients in ICU are under 50%