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" I must level with you, I must level with the British public, many more families are going to lose loved ones before their time."

212 replies

YoursTunbridgeWells · 12/03/2020 17:29

Quote Boris Johnson.

Lots of people will die.

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CuriousaboutSamphire · 13/03/2020 08:13

So if immunity doesn't last long, then CV will be an endless reinfection cycle, killing more and more along the way until a vaccine is found and Boris' herd immunity thing is utter BS. That's one way of looking at it, especially of you read the many Media Opinion pieces masquerading as knowledge! But it is not necessarily the reality of our situation.

If we get infected and survive we will have immunity to this version and some to the next mutation... probably. There are no guarantees, but that is how such things often work out.

So we protect the most vulnerable and the rest carry on, get infected, mainy with very mild symtoms, until the risk has been contained naturally.

It's as viable an idea as shutting down the country and making everyone self isolate for the same 14 days - or 28 days if we do it 50:50... and allowing for those with 'better things to do' to do those better things....

However it is tackled it is scary and there are no promises that any action will be any more efficacious than any other, in the long term!

We live with endless reinfection cycles already. That is why the WHO spends so much time and money on the flu jab. This ill, in time, be added to that as has every other form of flu every identified!

Whatever is happening we don't have anyway to protect everyone. The government caanot do that. We, as individuals have to ecide what we can/need to do for ourselves. That doesn't involve the madness of panic buying loo roll, but does involve taking stockof what we do day to day and changing what needs to be changed.

Yes, I am scared. But being scared won't stop me from catching it and won't save me when I do. So I will wear my British Stiff Upper Lip and I will keep to a clean hands routine and I will just Keep On Keeping On.

Cause there's fuck all else to do - as one song has it!

CuriousaboutSamphire · 13/03/2020 08:15

All the real information I've read says CLOVID viruses are more stable than your typical flu so mutation is less likely. I'm reading around that at the moment. The 2 strains of COVID are making for 'interesting' reading!

Justaboy · 13/03/2020 08:25

The real scary thing is that the 1918 el viva espana flu hasnt come back as if it had, we'd be in shite street squared as we still can do very little with most any virus in the way of treatment or cure

Anyway the not so bad news is that China's infection rate is 80.9 K same as yesterday, the recovered rate is 68.3K today 67K yesterday;)!

Wrongdissection · 13/03/2020 08:34

@highghost the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists releases this on Monday re pregnant women. www.rcog.org.uk/en/guidelines-research-services/guidelines/coronavirus-pregnancy/covid-19-virus-infection-and-pregnancy/

DoubleAction · 13/03/2020 08:38

But it did Justaboy, several times. The 2009 Seine flu was a version of the Spanish flu which was why older people were actually less vulnerable than young ones (as indeed was the case in 1918) because there was some immunity in the population because it had been round before.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 13/03/2020 08:41

The real scary thing is that the 1918 el viva espana flu hasnt come back as if it had, we'd be in shite street squared as we still can do very little with most any virus in the way of treatment or cure But it has been back - a few times. And many very old people survived at a better rate than younger people because they had natural immunity.

And we all have a bit of immunity to it as it is around us, been here before!

Justaboy · 13/03/2020 09:11

True that we do have a smattering of previous versions maybe should have worded that on the same scale!

Mind you are we any further forward in terms of treatment/s we still can't do anything about a damm cold!

As yet..

CuriousaboutSamphire · 13/03/2020 09:20

And we live with that! All the time. This one is scary but is not the first scary one this century!

I lived in close proximity to SARS - volunteered to help with a group of UK stranded, positive testing Italian schookids (Italy again, and children of politicians too).I was just as immuno compromised then as I am now and hand washing, no kissing, no spitting etc was effective then! I just trust it will be now. I didn't contract SARS but I fully expect to contract COVID... and to survive it!

SnoozyLou · 13/03/2020 10:44

I didn't like hearing it. I don't think anyone liked hearing it. But the blasé "it's just flu" brigade needed to hear it. Although whether they really heard it remains to be seen.

SnoozyLou · 13/03/2020 10:47

*@SnoozyLou

I wonder how many people still think it doesn't apply to them?

Probably not many.*

I wish that were the case but I still see rampant denial all over these boards. I'm not saying panicking will help us, but there are still blatantly people who are going to high risk areas, who won't self isolate when they get back, and who probably wouldn't even adhere to it even if they got sick.

MitebiteonFrightNite · 13/03/2020 14:27

For those saying earlier that surgeries etc aren't being cancelled...

www.southwarknews.co.uk/news/coronavirus-kings-college-hospital-cancels-inpatient-activity-until-further-notice-over-growing-cases/

They are conducting outpatient appts remotely too, where possible.

justasking111 · 13/03/2020 18:05

Our surgery announced this afternoon it is now working remotely for the next few weeks, nothing texted just notice on FB. The elderly are going to be unaware of this, they start queuing at 8am every day.

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