" I must level with you, I must level with the British public, many more families are going to lose loved ones before their time."

[YoursTunbridgeWells]

Quote Boris Johnson.

Lots of people will die.

Well I believe the Chief Scientific Advisor. He’s got to have a better grasp of the situation than most people on here I reckon.

daisypond Yes it is true people die before their time every day but families may have to deal with 2/3/4 or more of their family dying in a very short period of time due to this virus

What I can't bear is knowing that people will die unnecessarily virtually untreated because the virus will spread so fast there won't be enough NHS beds or oxygen to go round.

THIS.
They could do what Italy is doing and buy up some of China's spare ventilators. They could cancel all routine surgery and outpatients and use anaethetists soley for emergency ops and ventiliation only. They could prepare for for Italy's catastrophic ICU situation.

People will die. This is sad and difficult.

But playing a game of risk with people's lives when there is a safer option (as taken by many other countries today) is appalling.

I get Boris is taking the strategy of not doing what everyone else is doing beacuse if it works, the UK will win big by having heard immunity and rebuilding the economy with a statisically smaller population from say the summer while others remain in lockdown or head towards a second peak. That's a school boy chess strategy surely?

You wanted him to tell you no one will die?

I want a PM I can trust to tell the truth.

No one believes anything Boris says, do they? I mean, if he says something its likely NOT to be true.

Gemm83 Sorry you are so frightened but it may be best not to read threads like this. So many people speculating etc. and it can’t be helpful if you are already scared.

Tunbridge I’ve seen posts on here saying routine surgery has been cancelled, what makes you think this is not happening?

I wondered why social care was left out of the budget yesterday. This must be the plan.

I really, genuinely cannot see what part of what he said is going to delay the spread of the virus. Staying in if you have symptoms? Employers are only going with confirmed Covid19, not some random could-be. The elderly not to book cruises, obviously other holidays are fine?!

This is nothing. How can they stand there saying this is the way forward when WHO and the rest of the world say otherwise.

He’s on some fucking trip thinking he’s Churchill, combined with Cummings using it as a social experiment. How does our science support this but every other science says do more?

Say people dodge it this time around. It will be back again, it will not vanish completely covid in some form is here to stay.

Keep singing Happy Birthday while you wash your hands people. That’ll see you all through this crisis according to Batshit Boris.

This has been shared a few times but worth a read.

medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-people-will-die-f4d3d9cd99ca

In fairness life has always been shit and cruel in ways we can't influence or control despite our fixation on 'choices', this situation is just forcing more people to have to stare that truth in the face.

@MarshaBradyo I know of 3 people this week who have been booked in for routine surgery to occur in the next 3-4 weeks - tonsills removed, grommits and a long standing foot issue.
They may have cancelled some routine surgery but not all. It all needs to be cancelled now. If doctors are waiting round - retrain them with ICU skills.

If Boris Johnson is going to say "people will die" (which they will) then he needs to accompany that with some fucking action. Or a rousing speech imploring us all to act.

What he's saying is "People are going to die, and we're going to sit back and watch it happen, and blame you for it because - despite the science saying that social distancing needs to start now, we think you're too stupid to do it" which is basically what he said.

We should be rioting in the fucking streets, this is an outrageous admission of lack of leadership, lack of concern for the population and lack of faith in the British people.

A plague on his house. How dare he. He's just decided to let people die. I expect he thinks it was a difficult decision for him.

i was worried before, now i’m frightened.

i have arthritis and take methotrexate. my thyroid is fucked, my lungs are scarred from previous chest infections.

i’m 47. am i one of those ‘well, it’s inevitable, chin up’ people who can expect to die before their time? if i get sick, will the NHS treat me or will i just have to sit at home and hope for the best?

Doesn't this remind you of Lord Farquad in Shrek when he says to the knights 'some of you may die, but it's a sacrifice I'm willing to make'?

I feel a bit better. I knew he was out of control and his nudge unit are out of their depth. Now I know it's down to me to keep my family safe and to take the actions I think necessary so that a) we can try to avoid it and b) if we get it we can nurse at home and c) ideally if we did have to go into the hellhole of the NHS it would not be at the peak.

I'm taking my kids out of school on Mon as well, I've planned for how we would nurse anyone at home (based on how to treat isolated patients, gloves, mask etc), hoping it's like the flu (!), if I could nurse my parents or elderly relatives, work from home, bought food online, will help a couple of other families who I know don't have the money to cope without working, have everything set up really. I cannot control what this country does, I'm appalled by the lack of community thinking and shrugging of shoulders at the quantity of preventable deaths in my country, but this has focused me to put myself and my family first.

You know that thing where they're paying people £3500 to be infected? Can we start with him? Thanks

What choice is there? He can't magic up a cure. No, he can't magic up a cure. He could however be more proactive as other countries are being and put more robust measures in place to stop this spreading. Ok, I get the point about school closures, as that has a knock on effect on key workers and other services. But stopping large public gatherings. Moving universities and workplaces to online resources. And move onto banning all but essential travel. These will all help to slow down the spread.

There is nothing to accept or not accept. It’s simply fact.

What they are basically saying is that we can’t stop it. It’s impossible. It cannot he stopped. Based on math worst case up to 400,000 to 500,000 brits will die. It cannot he stopped. Up to ten thousand already have it. Possibly more. They don’t know because many have no symptoms. If eighty percent of the population get it, and 1 percent of them die, it’s hundreds of thousands of people.

Shutting everything down won’t stop it. Shut us down for a month and in a months time we have the same issue. It’s going to happen. That’s what the science is saying.

All they can do is manage it. Give people the best chance.

I don’t understand the science, but that’s what they are saying. Is it can’t be stopped. They can only delay.

We need to take care of the economy. If we don’t where will the money come from for the NHS, care of the elderly and the disabled - the list goes on.

There seems to be an increase in older people dying of "flu".
Not enough testing going on.
I'm wondering if the 10k estimate isn't a bit conservative, tbh.
Lot's taking their kids out and I don't blame them.

Basically the proles just have to get on with it, people with the choice, and/or good health, might be the ones to survive.
5-6 week to return to health will see most places close down even if we don't go into shutdown.

Nearlyalmost50 spot on.

@mlou32 why ban these things when people can just use their own common sense? Universities are already switching to online lectures. It's something they can do without having to be told because they're sensible.

What qualifies as essential travel?

Shutting everything down won’t stop it. Shut us down for a month and in a months time we have the same issue. It’s going to happen. That’s what the science is saying No, that's not what the science says, actually it says intervening at the right time in the form of shutting things down can prevent deaths, several papers came out on this today which I can't be arsed to link to but are on the worried about corona thread. China have only 15 new cases today, we have over 130 and that's with our minimal testing!

We need to take care of the economy. If we don’t where will the money come from for the NHS, care of the elderly and the disabled - the list goes on.

The government has just borrowed HUGE amounts of money for vanity projects. How about we spend that money on looking after our population?

If we could bail out the banks, we can bail out our people. Valuing life. Radical I know