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" I must level with you, I must level with the British public, many more families are going to lose loved ones before their time."

212 replies

YoursTunbridgeWells · 12/03/2020 17:29

Quote Boris Johnson.

Lots of people will die.

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tinytemper66 · 12/03/2020 18:03

So keep washing your hands, stay home if you have a cough and if you are over 70 don't book a cruise!

Bunnyfuller · 12/03/2020 18:04

‘We’re in Delay phase’ ‘we’ll, actually there’s no real change to the Cotain phase.

Buckle up kids, we’re in for a bumpy ride.

mindproject · 12/03/2020 18:05

We could all just decide for ourselves to take our kids out, then get a petition organised that we don't pay fines or lose school places.

Helpmechangemymindsetplease · 12/03/2020 18:07

I am shocked as well. If people die but the government were actually doing something that is one thing, when people die because the government have done nothing or very little is quite another Angry.

They find billions when they want to (Brexit anyone??) but for this they bring out the "take it on the chin" slogans.

Crap country, crap government.

RuffleCrow · 12/03/2020 18:10

Scrooge found a way to deal with the 'surplus population', did he? Angry

Gertie75 · 12/03/2020 18:10

It was very surreal hearing him say that, he needed to though, people need to hear it to understand how serious this will get.

umberellaonesie · 12/03/2020 18:16

It is true though. There is absolutely nothing i can do to prevent the impact on my child with a life limiting illness if he contracts covid-19.
I could lock him in his room, not let his brothers ho yo work and school, same for yd his parents to reduce the risk of him catching it. Bug that isn't sustainable on any level, emotionally, economically, or practically. If he catches it it will have a significant impact on him i have to accept that.

fluffysocksgoodbookwine · 12/03/2020 18:22

The thing is that countries like Germany that are apparently 'coping better' (ie lower mortality rate), have far more ventilators/ critical care beds per head of population than us.

Off the top of my head, USA has 29 critical care beds per 100,000 people (although you can only access them if wealthy/ very well insured!), Germany have 27/100,000, UK has 8/100,000.
Critical care beds/ ventilators are very expensive to run, and spending a lot of money on this high level of care reduces the amount available for outpatient / primary care that is better value for money in terms of overall morbidity and mortality.

I don't actually know the ratio of CC beds for Italy, but it doesn't matter much how well organised your health service is generally, if you can't offer respiratory support for the severely affected people then they are more likely to die. Hence all this discussion of trying to delay and reduce the peak numbers - critical care in the UK runs at around 96% bed occupancy in the winter, due to the burden of winter respiratory infections. It's a bit better than that in the summer, hence if we can delay the peak even by weeks, the availability of respiratory support will improve, and fewer people will die.

fluffysocksgoodbookwine · 12/03/2020 18:23

And you can't magic up critical care beds, even if you could source the equipment rapidly, we don't have enough medical and nursing staff with the specialist training required to staff them.

Helmetbymidnight · 12/03/2020 18:23

boris pretending to be churchill. arsehole.

Helpmechangemymindsetplease · 12/03/2020 18:25

Yes and the worst thing about that is that there are many who buy his Churchill charade.

The man is appalling in all ways.

Helmetbymidnight · 12/03/2020 18:27

i do believe everything will be so much worse- and deservedly so in a way- because we elected a man nobody trusts and even his fans know is a self-interested cheat and liar.

MotherOfDragonite · 12/03/2020 18:28

I'm taking my children out of school and nursery from Monday. I don't trust this government to protect us. Why are we doing something so very different from every other country, including the ones who have successfully delayed the trajectory of coronavirus? What is this "science" that Boris is supposedly following, which is totally different from any of the other science?!

Langbannedforsafeguardingkids · 12/03/2020 18:28

It’s not even at full force yet so no point in isolating as the main hit will be April/May. We literally can stay in doors till then.

there is a point in staying away from other people now as - proven in China - if you limit and stop transmission chains it stops the virus. China would have carried on going up if they didn't do whta they did- Only if we carry on as we are with a few ridiculous and stupid measures will we be hit full force. death rate if NHS functional is 1% (data from other countries) approx 400,000 if 60% of population get it - death rate if Italy like situation and NHS overwhelmed more like 4% THAT IS 1.6 million so 1.2 MILLION avoidable deaths.

I'll stay away from other people - just garden, go out in nature, homeschool for 6 months to prevent 1.2 million deaths. Still a lot will die but it will be 1% not 4% i.e. 1.2 million fewer people. Even if we only manage to bring the % down a bit - that's still a fuck of a lot of people dying because people weren't willing to adopt Italy like measures 'too soon'. (It'll happen in the end anyway when the dead start mounting up and the NHS is on it's knees).

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 12/03/2020 18:30

People are going to die. What I can't bear is knowing that people will die unnecessarily virtually untreated because the virus will spread so fast there won't be enough NHS beds or oxygen to go round.

Gemm83 · 12/03/2020 18:31

Yes he needed to be speak the truth, however the way he started that briefing was one of the most irresponsible pieces of public speaking I have ever seen/heard.
I am sitting here quite frankly shaking with fear. I actually can't put into words just how afraid I am.

theendoftheendoftheend · 12/03/2020 18:32

Churchill was also a bit of an arsehole to be fair.

DoubleAction · 12/03/2020 18:33

You wanted him to tell you no one will die?

I thought the rationale made perfect sense. They can delay it and spread the peak to ease the pressure on the NHS but they can't make it go away. How could they?

GiveHerHellFromUs · 12/03/2020 18:34

I'm taking my children out of school and nursery from Monday. I don't trust this government to protect us.

Why are you waiting til Monday then? Why didn't you do it two weeks ago?

MarshaBradyo · 12/03/2020 18:34

It’s true and better that people know this so they don’t bugger about with a cough and temperature at work etc

DoubleAction · 12/03/2020 18:35

@TheCountessofFitzdotterel that's the exact opposite of what they said. They explained very clearing why the current response gives us the best chance of flattening the peak to ensure as many people as possible can get the medical attention they need.

MarshaBradyo · 12/03/2020 18:35

If people want to stick to their house and garden then great. It all helps.

MitebiteonFrightNite · 12/03/2020 18:38

So not testing people anymore, that's a very sneaky tactic. Because those figures are published worldwide, and by only testing people who are very ill in hospital, it's going to look like we haven't got a huge amount of cases. So when other countries look at our figures they'll go 'oh look, the UK tactic of doing fuck all is working really well' when actually it's sweeping through our country and infecting the masses, who have been told to get on with it, stay home and don't bother us because we're not interested.
Herd immunity my arse, it's looking more like population control.

RuffleCrow · 12/03/2020 18:38

I don't know if he's got a lot of paid lackeys on this thread, but it's only going to get significantly worse if he fails us by allowing schools etc to remain open and people keep catching it. This virus is not Nazi germany ffs.

MarshaBradyo · 12/03/2020 18:40

I’ve been paid but I’d say the same anyway.

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