AIBU to not be worried shitless about coronavirus like the vast majority?

[Thefaceofboe]

Am I....????

Rather than the mass hysteria you are envisioning, I think people are concerned and taking sensible precautions to slow the spread. The concern is not limited to the question “will I die if I get this?” This is a concept that seems particularly difficult to grasp for the people starting these threads. If you can bring yourself to take a break from feeling superior and actually looking into the models that economists and scientists have been working on, you would see that the question of your own personal safety is not actually the only thing you should think about. Given the amount of people who need oxygen and intensive care, even the more optimistic models tell the same story: if lots of people get sick with this in a short timeframe we don’t have enough personell, beds, respirators and other equipment to deal with it. Stress on healthcare has a knock on effect and that means stress on other essential services. And this is a developed country. Imagine the impact elsewhere. If you can’t comprehend that... well I guess ignorance truly is bliss.

I do wonder how much of an overlap there is between brexit voters and those that think there is nothing to worry about covid19.

Well just thinking of my colleagues, who are happily carrying on working in a building with hundreds of superspreaders without panicking, I have not heard anyone admit to voting for Brexit and the mood the day after the referendum was one of collective sadness and disbelief, so IMHO there is no overlap.

I do wonder how much of an overlap there is between brexit voters and those that think there is nothing to worry about covid19

In my case, none whatsoever.

I'm more worried about the fact I'm running out of hand soap and people seem to be buying 20+ at a time

Whilst probability states I will almost certainly be fine, it also implies that there will be people I care about that will die. 1% of those who catch this will die from this. I'm estimating 50% of us will be mourning someone.

I am not overly concerned about the actual virus itself. It is not an Ebola type illness.

But I am very concerned about all this talk of quarantining and forced workplace closures.

Ssp is not enough and I really fear the possibility of homelessness of our family if we can’t pay the rent in the event that we are quarantined.

And we can’t be the only family in this situation. So there will be a domino effect (landlords not getting rent, mortgages not being paid and so on).

Not spoke to anyone in RL who’s particularly worried

Are you really saying that neither you nor anyone you have spoken to have the ability to see the bigger picture?

I work in the pharmaceutical industry and everyone at work is worried about it. At work there is increased cleaning of the public areas, we have banned people from site who have been to countries with high numbers of cases and work has told us all to take laptops home every evening. We are already experiencing shortages of essential equipment (face masks and hand sanitiser plus other things not bought by the public but essential for making drugs safely) and major suppliers aren't guaranteeing delivery times. We all know exactly how long it will take to get vaccines or antibody testing kits to market and so don't believe the stupid blond politicians. I have friends who are doctors who are also concerned about it. Funny how those with expert knowledge are worried about it but there are lots of Jo Public on here saying it's nothing to worry about.

I am not worried and I think people who are need to have a plan in place for childcare or home isolation, rather than constantly posting on each thread: two cases in x and three cases in y country which is just pointless. Use the facts to make an informed decision for your family, posting numbers serves no purpose.
Many posters seem hysterical and obsessive re number counts and location of cases. This will spread everywhere; it spread to every province in China but this crazy need to have the postcode for every case achieves nothing. If we have learnt anything from what happened in China it’s that staying at home is sensible. Many of my friends have stayed in China throughout this period and all are fine, if a little stir crazy!

Are you really saying that neither you nor anyone you have spoken to have the ability to see the bigger picture?

What I’m saying is no one I spoken to in RL is particularly worried. It’s that simple to understand

Years and years ago at my first resus on my ward after qualifying as a nurse a very wise anaesthetist said to me 'if you panic or don't panic the patient still needs you, the only difference is how much use you will be to them' . He also said 'if you see me panic, feel free to join in '

For context I never, ever saw him panic, ever. He and all other anaesthetists are my absolute favourite people to see when the shit hits the fan.

I disagree that the vast majority are worried shitless. I know no-one who is. I only see the hysteria on here, nowhere else in my life.

@nellodee
50% of mumsnet or 50% of the uk population?
Why do you think that?
To give some perspective: I live in China and nobody I know through school, friends, colleagues of my dh, dh’s factory has been ill, let alone died. We live in Jiangsu province, about 280 miles from Wuhan and also have friends with family in Wuhan.

What I’m saying is no one I spoken to in RL is particularly worried. It’s that simple to understand

I think what you mean is you have a simple understanding. As do the people you have spoken to IRL.

This "look at me i dont give two shits about anything or anyone else i am that hard" crap is getting boring.
Who cares? Nobody i know is scared shitless either but we aren't on the internet bragging to the world about it.

Many people are happily taking sensible precautions and going about their normal day and still not bragging about that either.

People are concerned about existing health issues, relatives with health issues. Ability of hospitals to cope and the possibility of only a certain few being given life saving treatment. And judging from the "I'm all right jack and wont do anything to mitigate risks so fuck you" posts i have seen on here they have good reason.
👏👏👏there you go op thats what you wanted wasn't it, recognition of your amazing bravery and independant thinking?

@purplebob why encourage the hysteria?

A lot of people I know are worried and a couple of them are scientists. This thread seems full of people who have not accepted that they may need to change their lifestyle somewhat in the next few months to try to reduce the risks for those who are around us - the elderly and the immune compromised. I have read a lot about the subject - I am not ‘hysterical’ but I am prepared both practically (stockpile - including plenty of wine) and mentally. I would suggest that whoever can wfh easily should do so, and any non essential trips abroad should be put on hold for a while. Any at risk people should avoid crowds. This would help slow the rate of spread and save lives. The situation is going to get worse before it gets better so why not take small steps now to avoid an Italy situation a month down the line. If Corona threads are ‘doing your head in’ then don’t read them.

Only thing am worried about is not being able to buy any toilet rolls cleaning things and painkillers when I do my next weekly shop due to all the greedy selfish people that are running round emptying the shelves

@Willow2017 and a lot of people on here only care about themselves (hence why they are bulk buying cornflakes) and I find it ridiculous.

I don’t think anyone is looking for a bravery award.
What I find frustrating is that the obsession with collating information seems more valuable than actually doing something to protect your family and your health. If I had a serious health condition I would be staying at home and avoiding public events, rather than investigating how many cases there are in Slovakia!

I'm in New York and we had a massive measles outbreak last year. That was worrisome. But we also had a readily available vaccine to combat it with. I think covid19 is scaring people more because we're quite a way off from having a vaccine and there's no good data on the efficacy of the antiviral meds in treating it.

New York has now passed stricter laws on vaccination, which will hopefully spare us another big measles outbreak.

if I had a serious health condition I would be staying at home and avoiding public events, rather than investigating how many cases there are in Slovakia!

Yep

why encourage the hysteria?

I have not encouraged any hysteria.

Read my posts again, you have obviously misunderstood.

The Chinese govt forced us to change what we were doing by shutting everything and reducing movement. Their figures for new cases are falling. Therefore it seems sensible to take a similar approach to limit non essential movement and have a back up plan incase you or a family member is ill.

Willow2017 and a lot of people on here only care about themselves (hence why they are bulk buying cornflakes) and I find it ridiculous.

I havent seen one person on here encouraging panic buying.