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The 'Positive Mental Health' Corona virus thread

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RapidRainbow · 13/02/2020 10:42

There are a lot of posts of people worrying. I thought it could be helpful to share positive and assuring information in one thread.

For me, the most reassuring thing so far is the fact that of approx. 1500 people in the UK suspected to have and tested for CV have come back as negative.

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MuseumOfIdiots · 07/03/2020 10:55

Apologies if this has been posted already, but I found this article by Dr Jo Daniels of the University of Bath's Psychology Department interesting:

theconversation.com/coronavirus-how-to-stop-the-anxiety-spiralling-out-of-control-133166?fbclid=IwAR1Ky2RsJjwHy6MjvEAPpIX3BLMkBw0pS4NU7iU_hG-cYGSfklPRFUiAvRw

Thymelord · 07/03/2020 11:05

I fully agree with you Rousette in that the other threads are really irresponsible. I also feel that the media need to be held accountable for the fear spreading. I've just been to Asda and there are definitely people panic buying, selfish bloody sheep.

Roussette · 07/03/2020 11:08

Agree. Someone posted that 80% of the population will be getting it.

Like that is a fact. It isn't!

Thymelord · 07/03/2020 11:13

I was particularly irritated by the 80% "fact". It wasn't what was said at all, yet it was cherry picked and presented as a fact. A simple bit of reading would disprove it!

DontCallMeDarling · 07/03/2020 11:53

If you do feel anxious, read the article posted by @PhilFlop, it is indeed very reassuring, and also latest updates from China which show covid can be contained. Don't look at videos on youtube, many have been proven as fake news and clickbait.

The headlines you see when you pass the newspaper stands make it sound apocalyptic which just doesn't help anybody.

GuyFawkesDay · 07/03/2020 11:57

Oh thank god, there's a common sense thread!

I found my people.

I've started washing my hands more and making the kids do theirs.

Reckon that's about all I can do right now 🤷‍♀️

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 07/03/2020 11:57

MuseumOfIdiots, that article you linked to made me think of something. it suggested that the response to panic fear of covid-19 is not unlike any other fight-or-flight response: an adrenaline over-reaction.

The way to get rid of excess adrenaline is to use it -- and if you don't need it for whatever triggered it, if for example you get home jittering like an idiot about a car-crash that didn't happen to you, you need to use it up somehow if you are going to get to sleep.

The doctor I asked about this (after a car-crash that missed me) said that if I couldn't do anything else, walking up and down the stairs until I got tired would ease the symptoms. It worked.

Maybe that would be a way to relieve anxiety brought on by all the panickers who are around at the moment? Just taking exercise?

Roussette · 07/03/2020 11:58

Ditto. I'm just washing my hands more.

Apart from that, life is carrying on as normal.

PineappleDanish · 07/03/2020 12:17

Maybe that would be a way to relieve anxiety brought on by all the panickers who are around at the moment? Just taking exercise?

I think there's a lot of truth in that. I always feel more positive after being outside for a walk. Exercise doesn't have to mean a cardio class or running fast.

Keynote1 · 07/03/2020 12:21

Anxiety and panic does not help. I have made myself feel awful,upset my husband who has even moved out of the bedroom and is barely speaking to me and made my daughters not want to speak to me. I am 55 and no real health concerns so am probably doing more damage to myself by being like this than anything. We have to be aware but the press are just not helping with the scarey headlines.
Thank you everybody on this thread you are all amazing and helping me to try and get a perspective.

Orangeblossom78 · 07/03/2020 12:34

Calming things like having a bath, listening to music, yoga can help. I am drinking too much coffee which doesn't.

magimedi · 07/03/2020 12:35

Agree re exercise dumbing down anxiety. Hate to say it but house work does tooo & then there's the bonus of feeling virtuous.

DontCallMeDarling · 07/03/2020 12:39

@Keynote1 I am sorry to hear that. I find the news to be really irresponsible in their reporting, making anxious people terrified and others panicky. I honestly believe that some people get a kick out of spreading gossip that are lies or half-truths.

With regards to the alcohol gels - yes they are better than nothing BUT washing your hands with soap and water is still much more effective so for those of us who can't buy any now, we might actually be better off!

Zoidbergonthehalfshell · 07/03/2020 12:42

Thankyou, @Jrobhatch29, for the excellent link to the Guardian article. That was great.

I'm glad you liked the article I copied and pasted as much as I did - please feel free to share away! Although I'm not convinced they'll listen. from what I read on here. I'm not going on The Other threads - they sound as though they're doing a lot more harm than good.

I've just got back from the weekly shop. The toilet roll shelves were pretty empty, although not bare, but otherwise it was very much business as usual. Normal shopping trip; normal coffee and breakfast; just was careful to keep my hands away from my face and gave them a good wash when I got home. I think that'll do Smile

unluckyagain · 07/03/2020 12:55

I felt very anxious this morning watching the news (and stupidly reading DM headlines). I made myself get up and out and went to Tesco's shopping. Seeing people going about their daily lives, cars on the roads, people waiting at bus stops etc all helped put things in perspective. I think getting out into the world is important.

Exercise also helps - going for a walk in the fresh air makes a big difference to my mood.

Orangeblossom78 · 07/03/2020 13:19

Yes the images in the news don't help. That in itself is very stressful. Going to try and stay away from that. It's not easy is it even the music stations have it on. Might stick to Spotify. Or calm app

Arcadia · 07/03/2020 13:36

Sensible discussions on Radio 4 at the moment

Thymelord · 07/03/2020 14:47

I missed the Radio 4 discussions. Could you sum up?

ExpletiveDelighted · 07/03/2020 16:06

I've been in central London today. Business as usual everywhere.

Wheresthebeach · 07/03/2020 16:08

I’m feeling more anxious after a school email suggesting that all holidays at Easter should be reconsidered for kids in exam years!

We are London and dd takes the train to school so wondering if driving her would be safer (although crazy time consuming). Also feeling that we should cancel the few days in Spain we’ve booked for early April...

tud41 · 07/03/2020 16:12

What I don't get with exams years is that if I remember rightly March to May is just practice papers anyway... Can they not take the exams early or come in just for them? Aren't grades done on a curve anyway so even if the top students miss the top marks they will still get the highest grades if they do better than most others etc?? I may be being really silly here so apologies if it's a stupid remark.

DoubleTweenQueen · 07/03/2020 16:12

Am in London too. Trains busy, much fewer sniffles, crowds on the South Bank. I have noticed people seem to be being more aware of each other, in a good way. Could this be a sort of 'blitz spirit' developing as we face a common enemy? I would like to think so 🙂

magimedi · 07/03/2020 16:23

Just to give you all a laugh (much needed):

The 'Positive Mental Health' Corona virus thread
Orangeblossom78 · 07/03/2020 16:51

The Times did some funny articles today on books on pandemics and etiquette for coronavirus, here is one for you

One of the most troubling things about the imminent possibility of pandemic is trying to work out exactly what the etiquette is. How should you behave when, at any given moment, the world could transform into a coughing, deadly dystopia?

It’s a tricky one. On the one hand, you don’t want to become a hysterical coronavirus superfan, one of those people who talk about tinned goods, survival probabilities and their new Thomas Malthus tattoo. Not only does it make others instinctively wary of you, it’s also potentially embarrassing. Because when the pandemic never comes, you still have to live with the fact that you had already decided which of your children you would harvest for meat. You’d made a spreadsheet and everything.

But on the other hand, you don’t want to live in denial. Or, even worse, reject scientific and medical consensus. You don’t want to be your dad’s mate on Facebook who goes on about how the whole thing is a “just a scam”, that the World Health Organization is in the pocket of Big Tinned Tuna, and who has taken to posting photos of himself licking pavements in Wuhan while giving a big thumbs-up. Of course you don’t want to be that guy.

So, how do you play it? How do you make it through this moment in history a) alive, but b) more importantly, without looking or feeling stupid? The good news is, I’ve been thinking about this a lot. For example ...

STOCKPILING Obviously, this is for survivalist weirdos and you want no part of it. But then, when you’re doing your Ocado order, a little voice in the back of your head says, “Would it really be so weird to order an extra … I dunno … ten tins of beans? Twenty? Fifty? Seven thousand?” So you keep clicking “Add to basket” until your mouse breaks and then you tell your partner, in a casual way, that you’ve ordered “a few extra bits and bobs”. Later, when the weary-looking supermarket delivery guy arrives and glares at you, just tell him your kids really love beans. If he asks how many kids you actually have, say, “About ... 50?”

PUBLIC TRANSPORT There’s nothing more callous than seeing someone with a sniffle – particularly if they are from overseas, shivering and delirious – being treated like a leper on the Tube. I mean, yes, I want to live. But I also want to be able to live with myself. So, in solidarity, I’ve taken to standing as close to these people as possible while smiling and maintaining eye contact, just to show that I do not fear them. What they then do is move as far away from me as possible. Which is also fine.

FACE MASKS Ultimately, you have to follow your heart on this one. Yes, you look ridiculous, but then equally, it’s not like “being dead” is the hot look of spring/summer 2020 either. I like the fact these masks exist, because men have to shave their beards in order to make them effective. I’ve never been able to grow a beard, which is really embarrassing, but at least I’ve got an excuse now.

JOKES Please don’t make jokes about it. It’s not just that it’s in poor taste; it’s that there is literally only one joke. “You know what? I wouldn’t mind a few weeks in isolation myself, hahahaha!” Just admit that you’re trapped in a loveless marriage, feel lost and empty and, deep down, are terrified of existence.

PERSONAL HYGIENE You have to keep on top of this. But then, as an adult, you kind of need to keep on top of this anyway. You’ve got to be very suspicious of those po-faced friends and colleagues who make a big point of how, now there’s a potential pandemic on the way, you really have to make sure to wash your hands after going to the toilet, etc. Makes you wonder. Fortunately, because I have small children who enjoy playing Dog Dirt Dodgeball, I generally have little bottles of hand sanitiser stashed about my person in the same way an alcoholic has miniatures of vodka. Easy.

HOLIDAYS This is the crunch. Do you cancel your summer holiday for the greater good? Or cross the picket line, escorted to Heathrow by the South Yorkshire police, before walking through departures with your jacket over your head while the rest of us jeer? A nice compromise is simply to let people think that you had booked a luxury holiday in some pretty north Italian coronavirus village, but that you have cancelled it at great expense. This lets people think you are both well off and magnanimous, neither of which is true.

OBSESSING OVER MAPS Under normal circumstances, I find nothing more fulfilling than staring at online maps for hours on end. But right now, you absolutely have to resist the temptation to log on to one of those websites that charts the geographical spread of coronavirus in real time. I mean … just sitting there, irritable and paranoid, while watching as a red tide sweeps across Europe? It was a bad look for Adolf in the Fuhrerbunker, and it’s a bad look for you. Especially in the office.

Theluggage15 · 07/03/2020 17:04

Hello all. I just lurk around and don’t really post but think this thread is great so just wanted to post an interesting interview by CNN with an American doctor and hope people find it helpful. mobile.twitter.com/jeremyfaust?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor Apologies I’m not sure how to do links so not sure if my link works but it’s for Dr Jeremy Faust’s Twitter account and he has put a clip of the interview on his feed just a little way down.

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