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Has the West been taken in by Hamas’ lies and anti Israeli narrative?

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OpheliaWasntMad · 25/09/2026 16:59

https://nypost.com/2026/09/21/opinion/journalist-admits-anti-israel-narrative-driving-protests-is-based-on-hamas-lies/

This journalist admits that his reporting from Gaza was not accurate because he was afraid of retaliation from Hamas.
Why have so many believed every report from Gaza journalists?

Palestinian photojournalist Motaz Azaiza

Journalist admits: Anti-Israel narrative driving protests is based on Hamas lies

Journalist Motaz Azaiza’s new revelations exposing “SMART,” a Hamas-controlled group of reporters used to manage the media narrative about Gaza, reveal uncomfortable but important truths about near…

https://nypost.com/2026/09/21/opinion/journalist-admits-anti-israel-narrative-driving-protests-is-based-on-hamas-lies/

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Ihatetomatoes · 02/10/2026 09:16

Pretending to be a 'journalist' whilst really a Hamas October 7th fighter. Vile that these scum are held up as 'innocent victims'.

"Among them was Abdullah Darwish, an Al-Aqsa TV cameraman who was also a Hamas fighter who participated in the 7 October attacks."

SingingShrews · 02/10/2026 09:47

SharonEllis · 02/10/2026 08:08

This is just be silly. Why would anyone think Hamas had invented the racist narrative against Israel? Obviously Hamas is just one, current iteration building on years of hatred before them. Good news comes out of Israel all the time but nobody who believes Israel is an apartheid state has the remotest interest in seeing it.

Good news comes out of Israel all the time but nobody who believes Israel is an apartheid state has the remotest interest in seeing it.

Maybe that's because those people aren't actually obsessed with Israel as they are often accused of being? What they are actually interested in is Palestinians and their right to self determination and to live free from illegal occupation. That means as you have discovered there is little interest in random Israeli news as its news relating to Palestinians that people care about.

Squeezingwildoranges · 02/10/2026 09:50

KatiePricesKnickers · 02/10/2026 07:08

The Hamas lies continue to be unpicked.

Of the 260+ ‘journalists’ touted as being targeted by the IDF, 170+ of them were militants.

https://www.idf.il/en/mini-sites/the-press-files/

The 15 emergency responders who were gunned down and buried in a shallow grave to hide the evidence definitely did not have their lights on and were acting suspiciously. The calendar on the wall of Al Rantisi Children's Hospital was definitely a list of Hamas operatives.

NullaEffugium · 02/10/2026 10:40

KatiePricesKnickers · 02/10/2026 07:08

The Hamas lies continue to be unpicked.

Of the 260+ ‘journalists’ touted as being targeted by the IDF, 170+ of them were militants.

https://www.idf.il/en/mini-sites/the-press-files/

I hope Israel shares the proof it has with the world intelligence agencies. It’s very easy to superimpose a photo on a green Hamas background or onto a Hamas militant in uniform. I am just saying the link you listed to a page with photos side by side, especially the photos superimposed on a green Hamas background, do not constitute proof in this day and age of photo shop and deep fakes.

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 02/10/2026 10:52

NullaEffugium · 02/10/2026 10:40

I hope Israel shares the proof it has with the world intelligence agencies. It’s very easy to superimpose a photo on a green Hamas background or onto a Hamas militant in uniform. I am just saying the link you listed to a page with photos side by side, especially the photos superimposed on a green Hamas background, do not constitute proof in this day and age of photo shop and deep fakes.

The IDF has faked images of journalists before. For example, they faked images of a Lebanese journalist they have killed.

www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-30/idf-misinformation-on-lebanese-journalist/106511282

NullaEffugium · 02/10/2026 11:00

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 02/10/2026 10:52

The IDF has faked images of journalists before. For example, they faked images of a Lebanese journalist they have killed.

www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-30/idf-misinformation-on-lebanese-journalist/106511282

Wow. I was not aware. Hopefully they have not repeated that mistake here. I really wonder about some of the leaders in the IDF and their moral compass.

KatiePricesKnickers · 02/10/2026 11:21

Ah, the ‘deep fake’ dismissals.

How much of what Hamas and their proxies put out fake?
How is it they seemed to have cameras on people just as they get shot? Who is the gunman?

NullaEffugium · 02/10/2026 11:46

KatiePricesKnickers · 02/10/2026 11:21

Ah, the ‘deep fake’ dismissals.

How much of what Hamas and their proxies put out fake?
How is it they seemed to have cameras on people just as they get shot? Who is the gunman?

Probably a good amount put out by Hamas is fake or weaponised by taking something true out of its context.

All of this could have been avoided if Israel, like every other country, allowed independent journalists into Gaza to cover the war.

We would not be stuck trying to discern what is propaganda and what is true.

SharonEllis · 02/10/2026 11:55

SingingShrews · 02/10/2026 09:47

Good news comes out of Israel all the time but nobody who believes Israel is an apartheid state has the remotest interest in seeing it.

Maybe that's because those people aren't actually obsessed with Israel as they are often accused of being? What they are actually interested in is Palestinians and their right to self determination and to live free from illegal occupation. That means as you have discovered there is little interest in random Israeli news as its news relating to Palestinians that people care about.

How refreshingly honest. Entirely agree that in general there is so little empathy for Israelis that good news goes unnoticed.

SingingShrews · 02/10/2026 12:14

SharonEllis · 02/10/2026 11:55

How refreshingly honest. Entirely agree that in general there is so little empathy for Israelis that good news goes unnoticed.

Let's face it people who are pro Palestinian can't win can they?

Why are you so obsessed with Israel?
Why aren't you obsessed with Israel?

Why should I notice if an Israeli rescues a cat from a tree or some other random 'good news?' I don't notice random 'good news' from Togo or Turkmenistan either. If that makes me lack 'empathy' then mark me down as lacking empathy.

SharonEllis · 02/10/2026 12:23

SingingShrews · 02/10/2026 12:14

Let's face it people who are pro Palestinian can't win can they?

Why are you so obsessed with Israel?
Why aren't you obsessed with Israel?

Why should I notice if an Israeli rescues a cat from a tree or some other random 'good news?' I don't notice random 'good news' from Togo or Turkmenistan either. If that makes me lack 'empathy' then mark me down as lacking empathy.

I wasnt talking about rescuing a cat. Why are you trivialising a serious issue?

SingingShrews · 02/10/2026 12:33

SharonEllis · 02/10/2026 12:23

I wasnt talking about rescuing a cat. Why are you trivialising a serious issue?

Good news comes out of Israel all the time but nobody who believes Israel is an apartheid state has the remotest interest in seeing it.

This is what you said, you didn't mention any 'serious' good news or specify a topic. It just seemed to be a weird dig at people who listen to the international courts, something which lots of people take notice of because international law is important to us. Random Israeli news, nope not relevant to most people.

SharonEllis · 02/10/2026 12:59

OMG. What's the point?

KatiePricesKnickers · 02/10/2026 13:35

SingingShrews · 02/10/2026 12:33

Good news comes out of Israel all the time but nobody who believes Israel is an apartheid state has the remotest interest in seeing it.

This is what you said, you didn't mention any 'serious' good news or specify a topic. It just seemed to be a weird dig at people who listen to the international courts, something which lots of people take notice of because international law is important to us. Random Israeli news, nope not relevant to most people.

And the international courts have said no genocide in Gaza. So there is that I suppose.

Squeezingwildoranges · 02/10/2026 13:41

KatiePricesKnickers · 02/10/2026 13:35

And the international courts have said no genocide in Gaza. So there is that I suppose.

No they haven't. They are stating that Genocide is plausible and have ordered that everyone should do what they can to prevent it including Israel.

KatiePricesKnickers · 02/10/2026 13:52

Please point to the ICC and ICJ court rulings of genocide.

OpheliaWasntMad · 02/10/2026 13:54

The ICJ has not ruled Israel committed genocide in Gaza so I don’t think posters on here should use the word as if it is fact.
The jury - quite literally- is still out on this issue.

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SingingShrews · 02/10/2026 13:55

KatiePricesKnickers · 02/10/2026 13:52

Please point to the ICC and ICJ court rulings of genocide.

They haven't ruled on it yet. So they haven't 'said no genocide in Gaza' as you claimed.

SingingShrews · 02/10/2026 13:57

OpheliaWasntMad · 02/10/2026 13:54

The ICJ has not ruled Israel committed genocide in Gaza so I don’t think posters on here should use the word as if it is fact.
The jury - quite literally- is still out on this issue.

Did you quote the wrong person? I'm quite aware that they haven't ruled yet, Knickers is the poster who was under impression that they have.

SharonEllis · 02/10/2026 14:04

Squeezingwildoranges · 02/10/2026 13:41

No they haven't. They are stating that Genocide is plausible and have ordered that everyone should do what they can to prevent it including Israel.

No they have NEVER said that genocide is plausible. Watch the video. Read her lips.

Israel-Gaza: What did the ICJ ruling really say? - BBC News share.google/AqxhvE84aToHGVymo

Squeezingwildoranges · 02/10/2026 14:46

SharonEllis · 02/10/2026 14:04

No they have NEVER said that genocide is plausible. Watch the video. Read her lips.

Israel-Gaza: What did the ICJ ruling really say? - BBC News share.google/AqxhvE84aToHGVymo

If you want to be pedantic you are right. They could not determine whether South Africa's allegation that Israel is committing genocide was plausible. Doing so would require evaluating the full merits of the case, which is a process that will take several years to resolve. However, the court ruled that it was plausible that Palestinians have a right to be protected from genocide. Why would they rule that they need to be protected from genocide if it was deemed there was no genocide. The ruling is not expected until 2029.

Boolabus · 02/10/2026 14:50

SharonEllis · 02/10/2026 14:04

No they have NEVER said that genocide is plausible. Watch the video. Read her lips.

Israel-Gaza: What did the ICJ ruling really say? - BBC News share.google/AqxhvE84aToHGVymo

They said there was a plausible case to bring so evidence gathering is ongoing but it will take years before a judgement is decided.
Rather, she said, the purpose of the ruling was to declare that South Africa had a right to bring its case against Israel and that Palestinians had “plausible rights to protection from genocide” - rights which were at a real risk of irreparable damage.

What sticks out for me in your link is this paragraph:
Having decided that Palestinians in Gaza had plausible rights under the Genocide convention, it concluded that they were at real risk of irreparable damage - and Israel should take steps to prevent genocide from occurring while these critical issues remain in question.

This was 2024, genocidal rhetoric and actions have increased since then, all will form evidence for the case of genocide but that will be too late for the Palestinians. It was clear here that the court was ordering Israel to take steps to prevent genocide, that in itself is a shocking indictment of what they were doing and from many people's perspective they took no steps from here to prevent it.

KatiePricesKnickers · 02/10/2026 14:58

@Squeezingwildoranges ”However, the court ruled that it was plausible that Palestinians have a right to be protected from genocide. Why would they rule that they need to be protected from genocide if it was deemed there was no genocide.”

Everyone should be protected from genocide.
The IDF have gone out of their way to ensure they have not committed mass murder and can be accused of genocide.

However ‘scholars’ have managed to poison the term genocide to their own ends and so this is where we are. Not talking about mass murder, but talking about what constitutes a genocide and can we stick it on the IDF.

I do hope that they also rule October 7th an attempted genocide, and Hamas id a genocidal organization.

KatiePricesKnickers · 02/10/2026 15:11

KatiePricesKnickers · 02/10/2026 14:58

@Squeezingwildoranges ”However, the court ruled that it was plausible that Palestinians have a right to be protected from genocide. Why would they rule that they need to be protected from genocide if it was deemed there was no genocide.”

Everyone should be protected from genocide.
The IDF have gone out of their way to ensure they have not committed mass murder and can be accused of genocide.

However ‘scholars’ have managed to poison the term genocide to their own ends and so this is where we are. Not talking about mass murder, but talking about what constitutes a genocide and can we stick it on the IDF.

I do hope that they also rule October 7th an attempted genocide, and Hamas id a genocidal organization.

typo, should be ‘and can not be’.