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Conflict in the Middle East

Concerns about Israeli plans for Gaza and Palestinian displacement

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JadeHare · 28/05/2026 17:16

https://www.cnn.com/2026/05/28/middleeast/israel-netanyahu-military-70-percent-gaza-intl

Doesn’t look like there will be much land left for the Palestinians.

And in other news, from the Guardian:

“Israel’s defence minister has said he is committed to the ethnic cleansing of Gaza through large-scale migration of Palestinians as part of Israel’s long-term plans for the territory.
Israel Katz said the government would implement a plan for large numbers of Palestinians to leave Gaza “at the right time and in the right manner”, in a statement on Wednesday marking the targeted killing of Mohammed Odeh, Hamas’s most recent military commander.
Pushing for mass departures violates Donald Trump’s ceasefire plan for Gaza, which Israel signed last year. The second point of the plan states: “Gaza will be redeveloped for the benefit of the people of Gaza, who have suffered more than enough.”
Israel’s government has promoted the prospect of Gaza without Palestinians since Trump suggested early last year that hundreds of thousands of people should leave to “clean out” the strip for reconstruction.
Last year Israel set up a bureau for “voluntary emigration” and eased travel restrictions for Palestinians who wanted to make a one-way journey out of the strip.
The forced transfer of civilian populations is a war crime and a crime against humanity. Israeli officials, including Katz, use the term “voluntary migration” to describe their ”

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“Israel’s defence minister says large-scale Palestinian migration from Gaza will go ahead”
Emma Graham-Harrison
The Guardian
https://apple.news/AnnlpJqlOTdW5cUbA9NEe1Q
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Israeli PM Netanyahu says he directed the military to take over 70% of Gaza | CNN

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Thursday that he had directed Israel’s military to take over 70% of Gaza’s territory.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/05/28/middleeast/israel-netanyahu-military-70-percent-gaza-intl

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JadeHare · 28/05/2026 20:33

WhatYouWearing · 28/05/2026 20:32

Because some factions in the marches are being supported by the extremists and the others are brainwashed. Look at the content of the chants and banners before the government stepped in. Some people may be the old fashioned anti war be kind, but many are purely antisemites.

And there’s a whole other thread for that.

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frumpydump · 28/05/2026 20:34

dairydebris · 28/05/2026 18:55

This whole chain of events was set in motion by 7 October. The world knows it.

70k + people would still be alive, their homes would be standing.

A future State for Palestinians has never been further away.

You absolve Hamas for their hand in this if you want. I do not absolve Israel. Their hand in this is it ever goes ahead will forever shame the nation. But the fact remains that this wouldn't be happening if Hamas hadn't invaded Israel that day.

It's the biggest self own in history.

This war has been ongoing since the 1940s. The world knows it.

BelleHathor · 28/05/2026 20:34

Perhaps the Palestinians should come to Europe, after all it was Europeans like Balfour , Sykes and Picot who outside of the law gave away their land and have made them pay for an atrocity perpetrated by a European country that the Palestinians did not commit. America too for arming and providing diplomatic cover for decades.

Those countries should expediate compensation and deal with the blowback of a traumatised population. Their citizens should be made aware of all the people who supported/advocated the ethnic cleansing and why.

The Palestinians have had to deal with their land and homes being stolen (often by refugees who they let live with them after WW2) and abuse for decades, they deserve some peace. It is now precedent that a population can make a claim to a land 100s of years after leaving, so they can return in the future and no one can complain.

WhatYouWearing · 28/05/2026 20:34

Martymcfly24 · 28/05/2026 20:29

Nobody here supports Hamas. That is a horrific act of violence that they perpetuated.

Have you seen the videos today of the children torn apart by an Israeli bomb dropped on a residential building

One is terrorism and one is war. I don’t want civilian casualties in this war or any other. But the Islamic extremists are never going to stop until all Jews are dead. It’s part of their beliefs. How do you work with that??

JadeHare · 28/05/2026 20:36

Leorag · 28/05/2026 20:22

They're trying to get rid of Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis. ALL Iranian backed Islamist terrorist groups. Why are you against this? All the countries mentioned would be better without terrorists operating. They are NOT trying to kill civilians.

Yep. All those medics in Lebanon were Hezbollah were they? All the double taps? Jesus wept.

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dairydebris · 28/05/2026 20:36

JacknDiane · 28/05/2026 20:33

No one should need to take them. They should be allowed to stay in their own land.

Should Hamas be allowed to stay on their own land?

Twiglets1 · 28/05/2026 20:37

Boolabus · 28/05/2026 20:24

What a fantastic contribution to a thread about Palestinians bring ethnically cleansed.

All you seem capable of is accusing anyone with a different opinion to you of supporting Hamas Hezbollah IRGC. Whatever you think of posters here I don't think many would launch onto a thread about atrocities inflicted on innocent civilians with a post like yours.

Yawn.

Bringemout · 28/05/2026 20:37

JacknDiane · 28/05/2026 20:33

No one should need to take them. They should be allowed to stay in their own land.

Yes I agree, I just don’t read propaganda swill so I don’t believe in this or rape dogs, or greater israel or that the jews control the media or the jews control the saudis, or the jews are stealing your shoes or whatever else nonsense people wish to belive.

The point is there are three exit options a) Lebanon (don’t like Palestinians and want a state so they can deport them , look up the legal rights of Palestinians in Lebanon, thats an apartheid system) b) egypt (they won’t) c) the sea (no the israelis are not going to drive a million people into the sea and if you believe they will it’s because you are so far gone theres no point in speaking to someone suffering from such delusions).

There will be no ethnic cleansing.

Martymcfly24 · 28/05/2026 20:38

WhatYouWearing · 28/05/2026 20:34

One is terrorism and one is war. I don’t want civilian casualties in this war or any other. But the Islamic extremists are never going to stop until all Jews are dead. It’s part of their beliefs. How do you work with that??

Are you serious.

The children snipered while queuing for medicine was war? Or double tapping medics.

None of them were Islamic extremists but Israel still targeted them.

WhatYouWearing · 28/05/2026 20:38

JadeHare · 28/05/2026 20:33

And there’s a whole other thread for that.

No, that’s a get out. How do you propose you deal with extremists who want all Jews dead?

Boolabus · 28/05/2026 20:41

Twiglets1 · 28/05/2026 20:37

Yawn.

Classy.

Shame people feel the need to post goady sarky comments on a thread discussing Israeli government intentions to ethnically cleanse Palestinians. If we were ever in doubt of people's true feelings about them.

Bringemout · 28/05/2026 20:41

WhatYouWearing · 28/05/2026 20:38

No, that’s a get out. How do you propose you deal with extremists who want all Jews dead?

They actually had a conference once about what they would do after they killed most of fhe jews. Generously they wanted to keep some jews alive as slave labour in specialist roles because they didn’t want brain drain. Dumbasses.

it was called "Promise of the Hereafter – Post-Liberation Palestine“.

Absolute fantasy nonsense.

JadeHare · 28/05/2026 20:41

WhatYouWearing · 28/05/2026 20:38

No, that’s a get out. How do you propose you deal with extremists who want all Jews dead?

There are lots of extremists in this world who want all kind of different groups dead. What do you suggest? Kill them all? Lots of Israelis in the Knesset are extreme. They want Muslims dead. Kill them too?

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Martymcfly24 · 28/05/2026 20:42

WhatYouWearing · 28/05/2026 20:38

No, that’s a get out. How do you propose you deal with extremists who want all Jews dead?

How do we stop extremism?

I know we will kills tens of thousands of people, whole families in fact.We will make the most amputees of any recent war using shrapnel bombs and numerous orphans. We will bomb their schools , their hospitals and imprison their children without trial. We will starve everyone and displaced them numerous times.

That will definitely calm everything down and there will be no more terrorism..

Bringemout · 28/05/2026 20:43

Martymcfly24 · 28/05/2026 20:38

Are you serious.

The children snipered while queuing for medicine was war? Or double tapping medics.

None of them were Islamic extremists but Israel still targeted them.

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Yeah people who want to a rave being shot in the head whilst being raped. I
babies being strangled to death. Women with scalpals and nails hammered into their genitals were they extremists? Some of the men who did this were normal Gazan civilians.

Every civilian death is a tragedy but lets be honest where this started.

dairydebris · 28/05/2026 20:44

Do people think Hamas should disarm and give up power ( as per ceasefire ) in order to take away any justification Israel ( not me! ) would use to excuse cleansing Gaza?

Whether its a pure reason of just plausible deniabilty- surely Hamas disarming would be a good thing no?

JadeHare · 28/05/2026 20:45

Bringemout · 28/05/2026 20:43

Yeah people who want to a rave being shot in the head whilst being raped. I
babies being strangled to death. Women with scalpals and nails hammered into their genitals were they extremists? Some of the men who did this were normal Gazan civilians.

Every civilian death is a tragedy but lets be honest where this started.

What babies?

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Twiglets1 · 28/05/2026 20:45

Trackstar · 28/05/2026 20:24

It's always look what you made us do.

It reminds me of that quote by Golda Meir “We can forgive the Arabs for killing our children. We cannot forgive them for forcing us to kill their children.”

It's always been and always has been look what you made us do. No ability to accept any responsibility for the horrors.

This will be a popular move for Netanyahus government in the run up to elections.
https://www.genocidewatch.com/single-post/poll-show-most-jewish-israelis-support-expelling-gazans

That's the Hamas line isn't it - Look what you made us do.

WhatYouWearing · 28/05/2026 20:45

Martymcfly24 · 28/05/2026 20:38

Are you serious.

The children snipered while queuing for medicine was war? Or double tapping medics.

None of them were Islamic extremists but Israel still targeted them.

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Children have been killed by strikes. But the sniper reporting has been contested. And that’s a further problem with war, propaganda. Hamas uploaded videos onto the social media accounts of their victims to show what they did.

Ive yet to ever hear any Pro Palestinian explain how you deal with extremists who declare they will kill Jews until every last one is dead. And that’s because there is no answer other than to try and disarm them and their supporters.

dairydebris · 28/05/2026 20:46

Martymcfly24 · 28/05/2026 20:42

How do we stop extremism?

I know we will kills tens of thousands of people, whole families in fact.We will make the most amputees of any recent war using shrapnel bombs and numerous orphans. We will bomb their schools , their hospitals and imprison their children without trial. We will starve everyone and displaced them numerous times.

That will definitely calm everything down and there will be no more terrorism..

Don't you agree that extremism sometimes must be met with violence? Surely we can agree that Hamas needs to go? For the sake of both Palestinians and Israelis?

Bringemout · 28/05/2026 20:46

They can’t even get the full funding amount from donor countries because hamas won’t leave, they have been shooting at gazans trying to cross the yellow line because they have been hired to start rebuilding homes. They have been forcing women into sex in exchange for aid (rape really, but what do people expect from people who are proven rapists).

They are such utter scum.

Lonelycrab · 28/05/2026 20:46

dairydebris · 28/05/2026 20:26

Do you usually refer to such statements as

A great evil
A permanent shame
A wrong that will haunt you forever

As cheerleading?

Do you usually accuse people of saying the exact opposite of what they've repeatedly and observably said?

It's not great form is it?

And by the way, there's absolutely no 'thank goodness' about October 7. Ridiculous thing to say. I'd never come on here and say 'thank goodness' its 3 years since the death of Hind Rajab or any innocent Palestinian. Honestly.

Really, really poor form.

Poor form hmm.

7 October. Biggest self own in history

This implies that the barbaric acts of 7 oct somehow justify the Israeli govt response.
Maybe you didn’t intend it to come across that way, but that’s the way (and many of your further replies) scans.

And “thank goodness” that any further mass terrorist attacks haven’t been achieved by Hamas, that’s all I meant. Remember, 3 years on, hundreds are often dying daily in response to that (horrific) attack. That will not stop anytime soon, unless the Israeli govt stops being supported by mainly the US, which is unlikely.

frumpydump · 28/05/2026 20:47

dairydebris · 28/05/2026 19:35

Mmmm. I wonder if only Hamas would disarm and give up power whether that might help at all?

It's really odd how Palestinian agency is completely written out of so much 'pro Palestinian' discourse.

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The way I put it to my mum, who has up until recently been very pro-Israel, was like this:

Let’s say Wales gains independence (HYPOTHETICAL), and a group of terrorists who align themselves with our government attack them. In response Wales launch an offensive that leads to schools and homes being bombed. People are bombed in refugee camps.[My nieces] are bombed and injured or killed. The eldest remembers life before, and now only knows what the Welsh regime took from her. Would you not expect her to be angry? Would you not be angry? Would you comply?

It got her to change her mind pretty quickly when she actually comprehended the scale of what was happening. When your children are being killed by bombs aimed at terrorists for a crime they didn’t commit, you pretty quickly forget why they’re bombing you and just care about how angry you are.

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I agree.

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