Is the penny finally starting to drop about anti semitism and hate marches?

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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/may/04/starmer-c al l-society-response-rising-antisemitism

I think we are now seeing the cumulative impact of the anti senitism that has built up over the last 3 years where there has been a permissive environment with politicians hesitant to intervene in events in the streets that have incubated anti Jew sentiment.

All political parties apart from the hate apologist Greens are now waking up to the fact we need better policing and perhaps legislation. I for one will acting a vote for a party that recognises hate marches for what they are and also willing to tackle the vile posts appearing on social media (and Labour have reacted too late too little). Enough is enough for a Jewish community that lives in perpetual fear.

How many 'pro Israel' marches have taken place in the UK in the last couple of years?
I just did a quick google:

Since 7 October 2023, the groups making up the Palestine Coalition (including the Palestine Solidarity Campaign and Stop the War Coalition) have organised more than 33 large national pro-Palestine marchesin the UK, alongside thousands of localised rallies, vigils, and sit-ins across British cities.
In contrast, there have been far fewer major pro-Israel marches, with organisers primarily focusing on static commemorative rallies and vigils rather than multi-mile street marches.
^^
The Metropolitan Police and official UK Home Office records do not track a formalised tally for pro-Israel street marches because their mobilisation has predominantly taken the form of static assemblies (such as major gatherings in Trafalgar Square to mark anniversaries or demand hostage releases) or small-scale counter-protests along the routes of larger pro-Palestine demonstrations.

That doesn’t sound quite the same as rushing to organise a pro-Palestine rally during an ongoing horrendous terror attack on Israel.

You dont think that a march full of Israeli flags and signs saying that people stand with a country that was actively engaged in sexual violence, mass slaughter and mass starvation would be intimidating to the over half a million British Arabs? Seeing that people stand with the mass slaughter of your friends and relatives wouldn't be terrifying? Knowing that right at that moment in time families just like yours were literally being blown to pieces and people sharing the same street as you were all for it? Have you asked them if it feels the same? Has anyone asked them how they feel about it? It seems to me that they haven't, I certainly haven't seen any conversation that centres their feelings. So I'd like to know where you are getting 'it's not the same' from?

Guessing they feel similar to Muslims on Flag day in Jerusalem
…its provocative and intimidating

but agree has anyone bothered to ask

No, I don’t think static commemorative rallies and vigils are the same as much more frequent multi-mile street marches.
People on these vigils holding flags of the country where 1,200 people were killed and over 250 taken hostage –no, don’t see a problem with that either.
But of course, for some people even seeing posters of Israeli hostages was offensive. Plenty of footage of these being torn down.

I suppose the question then becomes do you ban matches because people feel they are provocative or intimidating and where does that end? Certainly I feel pro life marches are provocative and intimidating. Anti immigration marches the same. I'm sure I can think of more and that's just me.

Do we tell people sorry but people have a right to march, anything illegal will be dealt with by police. Do we take into account how everyone feels before every march and ban any marches where some people may feel intimidated? How would that work in pracrice? Or do we create a divisive two tier system where some people's feelings matter more than others and ban a few marches where certain people feel they are provocative or intimidating and everyone else can just deal with it? It seems like the last option is what some people here are advocating for.

Why has no one mentioned this? Seems a bit like people in glass houses here.

It’s from Reuters:
“Thousands of Israeli nationalists marched on Thursday through the Muslim quarter of Jerusalem's walled Old City under heavy security, in an annual event marking Israel's capture of the city's east in a war nearly six decades ago.
Palestinian residents, many of whom barricaded themselves inside their homes in the Old City, view the Jerusalem Day parade as a provocation to undermine their ties to the city.
As Israelis marched through the Muslim quarter that is home to thousands of Palestinians, some of the demonstrators, mostly young men, chanted "May your villages burn" and "Death to Arabs" while waving Israeli flags.”

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“Israelis mark capture of East Jerusalem with Old City parade, racist chants”
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Did that march happen in the UK?
Nobody should have to barricade themselves inside their homes for fear of being attacked, but isn’t this thread about the UK?

Thought it was about marches that are hate fueled. Looks like that march fits the bill.

What, about all the marches everywhere in the world?

The op has set out their brief, but since this is citme it usually ends up vilifying Israel & Israelis. People on here often do, the ratio is different on other boards.

I mentioned it earlier
Its also known as flag day

Unsurprisingly the usual pro Israel posters haven’t commented on my post.

I’ve definitely noticed that too. The reactions are much more balanced on other forums.

Nope. Just pointing out that hate marches are allowed to go on, and are actively encouraged, to the point that Israelis are bus loaded in to Jerusalem in order to intimidate the Palestinians. The chants are also racist and despicable. But hey ho.

No this thread is about hate filled marches here in the UK, primarily London.

Because this thread is about the UK and originated from an article in the Guardian that OP linked to.

Yes, sorry. Noticed that after I posted.

I have just now. I repeat, this thread is about hate filled marches in the UK, primarily in London. Stop derailing. If you want to start a thread about Jerusalem Day, feel free to do so.

And threads always stay bang on topic do they? Sorry, I hadn’t noticed.

Neither the title nor the OP actually mentions the UK specifically - it's implied, sure, but not explicit.

And we are on the CITME board, so surely if OP only wanted to focus on the UK, this isn't the right place to post.

Agree
although flag day is relevant
Many threads over the years have been about bombing in Gaza with some posters wanting to talk about bombing in Israel
They are related so…..

Maybe some people are trying to push the idea that this thread is ONLY about the hate fueled marches in the UK because they don’t want to admit that flag day is fairly fucking atrocious.

hate marches are allowed to go on - yes, in a completely different country by an entirely different government.

Just trying to explain to you as you seemed confused about why we are all banging on about antisemitism and hate marches in the UK not Jerusalem.

Not confused at all Twiglets1. As I said, people in glass houses. Looks like Israel needs to sort out their own house first.

And I am not sure that Flag Day is antisemitic. Quite the opposite.