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Conflict in the Middle East

Iranian attack hit water desalination plant in Kuwait

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Ihatetomatoes · 03/04/2026 09:21

Cannot find a link yet but was on BBC as breaking news.

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RedTagAlan · 05/04/2026 15:05

EasternStandard · 05/04/2026 14:48

Your best bet is hearing from them directly in the platform you do use. There’s likely a stop Iran executions hashtag or go to Amnesty International get the names of those executed and use that to find voices on this.

People are good at explaining why the Revolutionary Guard is such a threat.

Amnesty International ?

Do you believe what they say ? I heard somewhere that their information and reports are not to be trusted.

EasternStandard · 05/04/2026 15:11

RedTagAlan · 05/04/2026 15:05

Amnesty International ?

Do you believe what they say ? I heard somewhere that their information and reports are not to be trusted.

Ok as you wish. Which organisation do you trust?

RedTagAlan · 05/04/2026 15:16

EasternStandard · 05/04/2026 15:11

Ok as you wish. Which organisation do you trust?

I trust Amnesty International no problem at all. I am just saying I have seen lots of reports that say they are not to be trusted.

I just wondered if you trust them. It's a benign question really.

PandoraSocks · 05/04/2026 15:17

TopPocketFind · 05/04/2026 14:54

I asked you for a recommendation where to start looking in an earlier post, I would still appreaciate it if you could give me some pointers.

Me too. Who would you recommend on Instagram @EasternStandard please? I think you said you use it.

EasternStandard · 05/04/2026 15:20

TopPocketFind · 05/04/2026 14:54

I asked you for a recommendation where to start looking in an earlier post, I would still appreaciate it if you could give me some pointers.

Below is the recommendation, use the hashtag I said, look up the background, usual stuff when following on an international event.

Follow someone you have checked and the algorithm will do the work for you.

TopPocketFind · 05/04/2026 15:25

EasternStandard · 05/04/2026 15:20

Below is the recommendation, use the hashtag I said, look up the background, usual stuff when following on an international event.

Follow someone you have checked and the algorithm will do the work for you.

Ok, I thought you might have some specific accounts that are a good start.

I will give it a try and see what comes up.

EasternStandard · 05/04/2026 15:28

TopPocketFind · 05/04/2026 15:25

Ok, I thought you might have some specific accounts that are a good start.

I will give it a try and see what comes up.

SM is good at filling your feed if you start off on one.

AgingLikeGazpacho · 05/04/2026 15:28

Speaking as someone who has actually been to Iran multiple times (nearly every year) for the past 30 years and has been able to talk to their Iranian family members over the past few weeks, I wish people would be less naive when thinking this war will do anything to help the general population achieve greater religious/political/personal freedom

The fact is that since the 1990s, women within Iran have repeatedly been able to push back against the government and been able to gain small (but symbolically significant) wins in how they dress, their participation in the workforce, and individual liberties. One small example of this is the headscarf and how since the women, life, freedom movement it's been less strictly enforced. The point I am making is that the population itself has been able to fight for change by itself. It would have been able to do that much more effectively without being heavily sanctioned all these years. Internal iranian struggles should not be used as a justification or rationalisation for external parties to instigate war

Iranian people unite under pressure - whilst my family and friends hate the government, they love their country more. The Iran-Iraq war showed how Iranians will fight tooth and nail to protect their country even if they hate their regime. They didn't use it as an opportunity to overthrow their government or break out into guerilla warfare.

To think the people would flood the streets as the first bombs of this war hit Iran, when they'd been so badly betrayed in January, was wishful thinking - bear in mind that there is no alternative power in Iran that would be an obvious contender to the current Islamic Republic and that people already have observed what happens in a power vacuum. These people are largely educated (often to undergraduate or postgraduate level). Contrary to what mainstream media was attempting to portray in January, the former Crown prince Reza Pahlavi has little popularity in Iran - they would prefer democracy over monarchy.

Western media tries to portray the average Iranian as cowering from the IRGC and the Basij, but they rise up regularly when they believe there is a sufficient strength and cause to do so.

Only weighing in since some posters have mentioned Iran's domestic situation and violence towards its own people on this thread already, which I believe is largely irrelevant to the intended discussion (yes I understand the irony of my post!)

FOJN · 05/04/2026 16:10

@AgingLikeGazpacho

I don't think it's naivety, I think it's a pro Israeli position whatever the cost. None of us who realise what the true cost could be are using the perceived "plight" of the Iranian people to justify the current insanity. Even if the Iranian government was overthrown what do people expect to happen? A peaceful transition to a new democratic government? No, there would be a period of absolute chaos and disorder and no one in their right mind thinks that turns out well for women or anyone really.

Thanks for your post. I hope your family in Iran are OK.

EasternStandard · 05/04/2026 16:14

FOJN · 05/04/2026 16:10

@AgingLikeGazpacho

I don't think it's naivety, I think it's a pro Israeli position whatever the cost. None of us who realise what the true cost could be are using the perceived "plight" of the Iranian people to justify the current insanity. Even if the Iranian government was overthrown what do people expect to happen? A peaceful transition to a new democratic government? No, there would be a period of absolute chaos and disorder and no one in their right mind thinks that turns out well for women or anyone really.

Thanks for your post. I hope your family in Iran are OK.

It’s not a ‘pro Israeli position’ to talk about what’s happening to the protestors rn

You can talk about what’s happening and still not want a war.

Twiglets1 · 05/04/2026 16:35

TopPocketFind · 05/04/2026 14:06

Trump's Truth Social account

Thank you.

Assuming his account wasn’t hacked, he has actually gone mad.

Which must be scary in itself for his enemies.

RedTagAlan · 05/04/2026 16:44

EasternStandard · 05/04/2026 15:11

Ok as you wish. Which organisation do you trust?

Anything on if you trust Amnesty International ?

Anyway, here is another one for you. Do you trust Trump ?

The Kurds certainty should not. BECAUSE HE JUST TOLD THE WHOLE WORLD HE ARMED THEM- TO ARM PROTESTORS.

5d chess is it, or has he just thrown the lot of them under the bus for the sake of who the feck knows on Fox news. NOW DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHY SO MANY POSTERS HERE ARE ANTI TRUMP AND ANTI THIS STUPID WAR HE STARTED ?

But yeah. I am sure the Iranian Government will just dismiss this as the ramblings of a madman, and not another brutal crackdown to find these arms and the Kurds and protestors he claims he gave them to. Yeah, the Iranian Government can't see Fox news anyway. How will they know he said it.

"Trump tells Fox News US sent arms meant for Iranian protesters to Kurds
By Dalia Abdelwahab
President Donald Trump told Fox News correspondent Trey Yingst during an interview this morning that the US sent weapons to Kurdish forces with the intent of arming Iranian protesters, seeming to confirm a CNN report from last month.
“President Trump told me the United States sent guns to the Iranian protesters. He tells me ‘we sent them a lot of guns. We sent them through the Kurds,’” Yingst said, recounting the phone interview. Yingst added that the president said he thinks the Kurds kept the weapons.
CNN reported last month the US was arming Kurdish groups with the aim of fomenting a popular uprising in Iran. The goal was to have the armed Kurdish forces take on Iranian forces, making it easier for Iranian civilians to take to the streets in protest.
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth told reporters at the time that “none of our objectives are premised on the support of the arming of any particular force. So what other entities may be doing, we’re aware of, but our objectives aren’t centered on that.”"

TopPocketFind · 05/04/2026 16:45

Twiglets1 · 05/04/2026 16:35

Thank you.

Assuming his account wasn’t hacked, he has actually gone mad.

Which must be scary in itself for his enemies.

Scary for everybody

He is threatening to commit war crimes

and has access to nuclear weapons.

RedTagAlan · 05/04/2026 16:50

Twiglets1 · 05/04/2026 16:35

Thank you.

Assuming his account wasn’t hacked, he has actually gone mad.

Which must be scary in itself for his enemies.

Yeah. 5d chess is it ? Luring his enemies into his trap ?

Check my post just above about what he just said to Fox.

Now do you get why so many are anti Trump ? He is a total lunatic.

EasternStandard · 05/04/2026 16:50

@RedTagAlanI suggested Amnesty International as a way for the pp to get the names of the people being executed.

I’m happy for you to suggest another organisation instead if you know any.

Twiglets1 · 05/04/2026 16:52

TopPocketFind · 05/04/2026 16:45

Scary for everybody

He is threatening to commit war crimes

and has access to nuclear weapons.

As far as I can tell war crimes are being committed all over the place now by all sides.

That is hardly something Iran can appeal to the UN about (which apparently they have done) seeing as they are committing war crimes too.

A scary time for everybody I agree.

RedTagAlan · 05/04/2026 16:55

EasternStandard · 05/04/2026 16:50

@RedTagAlanI suggested Amnesty International as a way for the pp to get the names of the people being executed.

I’m happy for you to suggest another organisation instead if you know any.

Do you trust Amnesty international ? I do, How about you ?

If you don't trust them, I don't think you should be using them as a source, do you ? Or does using them as a source mean you do trust them ?

Simple enough question.

TopPocketFind · 05/04/2026 16:55

Twiglets1 · 05/04/2026 16:52

As far as I can tell war crimes are being committed all over the place now by all sides.

That is hardly something Iran can appeal to the UN about (which apparently they have done) seeing as they are committing war crimes too.

A scary time for everybody I agree.

Come on, this is the president of the USA declaring his intent for the world to see.

Twiglets1 · 05/04/2026 17:01

RedTagAlan · 05/04/2026 16:50

Yeah. 5d chess is it ? Luring his enemies into his trap ?

Check my post just above about what he just said to Fox.

Now do you get why so many are anti Trump ? He is a total lunatic.

Apparently Fox News is not a good source? I was told by a poster on this thread in not very polite terms.

Anti Trump is one thing and he is considered a joke in my household.

I don’t mind people being anti Trump but some people seem anti the US which I don’t agree with. The current US government are very flawed but not to the same degree as the IRGC, in my opinion.

Twiglets1 · 05/04/2026 17:02

TopPocketFind · 05/04/2026 16:55

Come on, this is the president of the USA declaring his intent for the world to see.

Not disputing that.

Are you disputing that all sides are committing war crimes?

RedTagAlan · 05/04/2026 17:05

Twiglets1 · 05/04/2026 17:01

Apparently Fox News is not a good source? I was told by a poster on this thread in not very polite terms.

Anti Trump is one thing and he is considered a joke in my household.

I don’t mind people being anti Trump but some people seem anti the US which I don’t agree with. The current US government are very flawed but not to the same degree as the IRGC, in my opinion.

Would you say he just threw a load of people under his bus ?

TopPocketFind · 05/04/2026 17:06

Twiglets1 · 05/04/2026 17:02

Not disputing that.

Are you disputing that all sides are committing war crimes?

I am not disputing that

But what others do has nothing to to do with what Trump is posting.

TopPocketFind · 05/04/2026 17:14

EasternStandard · 05/04/2026 16:50

@RedTagAlanI suggested Amnesty International as a way for the pp to get the names of the people being executed.

I’m happy for you to suggest another organisation instead if you know any.

That wasn't really what I was aking for, I thought you knew of accounts of Iranian people discussing the war. Similar to what AgingLikeGazpacho posted.

ETA, I think you mean me with PP, and maybe I wasn't clear in what I was looking for.

Twiglets1 · 05/04/2026 17:17

TopPocketFind · 05/04/2026 17:06

I am not disputing that

But what others do has nothing to to do with what Trump is posting.

Isn’t he threatening to hit power plants & bridges if Iran doesn’t open the S of H? These are not normally considered legitimate targets in war but neither are desalination plants.

IRGC appears to think targeting civilian infrastructure is ok as long as it’s them doing it?

Not ok whoever does it in my opinion.

EasternStandard · 05/04/2026 17:17

TopPocketFind · 05/04/2026 17:14

That wasn't really what I was aking for, I thought you knew of accounts of Iranian people discussing the war. Similar to what AgingLikeGazpacho posted.

ETA, I think you mean me with PP, and maybe I wasn't clear in what I was looking for.

Edited

You’ll get to those accounts via names of the people executed. Nearly everyone is using the hashtag stop executions in Iran.

And using hash tags with the names of those executed. It will get you to Iranians speaking.