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Israel votes for death penalty for Palestinians convicted of lethal attacks

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CanAnybodyFindMe · 31/03/2026 14:07

“Israel's far-right National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir wore a noose pin on his lapel to signal his support for the bill”

I first heard about this on Facebook and thought it might be anti-Israel fake news. But no, it’s true.

Absolutely horrifying and sickening.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp8dkd6lnjdo

Itamar Ben-Gvir wearing a black suit, red tie and white kippah, talking on a podium in front of Israeli flags

Palestinians convicted of lethal attacks face death penalty under new Israeli law

The new law, passed on Monday, was pushed hard by the far-right and Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp8dkd6lnjdo

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Twiglets1 · 03/04/2026 11:57

Did you miss this?

The UN says it cannot make a legal determination as to whether a situation constitutes genocide under international law. It says a situation is referred to as genocide only after a competent national or international court has declared it as such.

The International Court of Justice (ICJ) is currently hearing a case brought by South Africa that accuses Israeli forces of genocide, but it could take years to reach a conclusion. Israel has called the case "wholly unfounded" and based on "biased and false claims".

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8641wv0n4go

Stirabout · 03/04/2026 12:26

Twiglets1 · 03/04/2026 11:57

Did you miss this?

The UN says it cannot make a legal determination as to whether a situation constitutes genocide under international law. It says a situation is referred to as genocide only after a competent national or international court has declared it as such.

The International Court of Justice (ICJ) is currently hearing a case brought by South Africa that accuses Israeli forces of genocide, but it could take years to reach a conclusion. Israel has called the case "wholly unfounded" and based on "biased and false claims".

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8641wv0n4go

This

‘ The case is being heard because the ICJ deem it plausible
Israel are delaying the case

The International Court of Justice (ICJ) ruled in early 2024 that it is "plausible" Palestinians in Gaza are at risk of irreparable damage from genocide, ordering
Israel
to take measures to prevent genocidal acts. While not yet ruling on whether genocide has been committed, the court mandated steps to improve the humanitarian situation.
BBC +3
Key ICJ Findings and Orders

  • Plausible Risk: The court concluded in January 2024 that some of the acts alleged by South Africa were capable of falling within the Genocide Convention.
  • Provisional Measures:
  • Israel
  • was ordered to take all measures within its power to prevent the killing, harm, or destruction of Palestinians in Gaza.
  • Humanitarian Aid: The court ordered Israel to enable the provision of basic services and urgent humanitarian assistance.
  • Prevent Incitement: Israel was directed to punish public comments inciting genocide.
  • Rafah Offensive: In May 2024, the court ordered Israel to immediately halt its military offensive in Rafah, following worsening conditions.
  • Reporting: The court ordered Israel to submit a report on measures taken to comply with these orders.
Status of the Case
  • Investigation Ongoing: The ICJ has not yet made a final determination on whether
  • Israel has committed genocide.
  • Defense Extension: Israel was granted an extension until January 2026 to present its defense, as reported by the BBC.
  • Implementation: Human Rights Watch and other observers reported that, in their view, Israel has not fully complied with the ICJ's provisional measures.
  • The Guardian +2
Contextual Factors
  • Israel's Position: Israel has strongly rejected the accusations, calling the case a "blood libel" and claiming it is exercising its right to defend itself in a conflict with Hamas, not against the Palestinian people.
  • UN Commission Finding: In September 2025, a separate UN Independent International Commission of Inquiry reported that it found evidence that Israeli authorities and forces committed acts deemed as genocide.
  • Lengthy Process: Final judgments on genocide charges by the ICJ often take several years.
  • ohchr +4

The constant delays by Israel

‘ Israel has been granted multiple extensions by the
International Court of Justice (ICJ) regarding its written submissions in the genocide case brought by South Africa, with deadlines extended into 2026. These extensions, totaling over six months, have delayed the proceedings, with a final ruling now not expected until at least 2027.
The Conversation +1

  • Extensions Granted: The ICJ granted Israel extensions on its deadlines to file written briefs rebutting accusations of genocide, with key deadlines pushed back by several months.
  • Case Timeline: While South Africa filed its "memorial" (legal arguments) in October 2024, Israel was granted extensions to submit its "counter-memorial," pushing the deadline to early 2026.
  • Impact on Proceedings: These extensions mean the case, which began in December 2023, is experiencing significant delays, pushing the final ruling well into 2027.
  • The Guardian +4
Despite these procedural delays in the main case, the ICJ has issued several sets of "provisional measures" (orders) instructing Israel to take action to prevent genocide and allow aid into Gaza. The Guardian
Alexandra2001 · 03/04/2026 13:22

Twiglets1 · 03/04/2026 11:57

Did you miss this?

The UN says it cannot make a legal determination as to whether a situation constitutes genocide under international law. It says a situation is referred to as genocide only after a competent national or international court has declared it as such.

The International Court of Justice (ICJ) is currently hearing a case brought by South Africa that accuses Israeli forces of genocide, but it could take years to reach a conclusion. Israel has called the case "wholly unfounded" and based on "biased and false claims".

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8641wv0n4go

Legally, correct, its not yet classed as a genocide but most reasonable people well might think that killing (approx) 80,000 Palestinians, most of whom are not Hamas, starvation, mass destruction of all public utilities, inc health and education, housing and moving around 1.5m people from camp to camp to camp constitutes crimes against humanity.

There is no justification for any of this, none at all.

Gloriia · 03/04/2026 13:29

Alexandra2001 · 03/04/2026 13:22

Legally, correct, its not yet classed as a genocide but most reasonable people well might think that killing (approx) 80,000 Palestinians, most of whom are not Hamas, starvation, mass destruction of all public utilities, inc health and education, housing and moving around 1.5m people from camp to camp to camp constitutes crimes against humanity.

There is no justification for any of this, none at all.

Many were combatants and as been said repeatedly on these threads hamas hide among/are accepted and encouraged in the community so therefore civilian casualties are sadly unavoidable.

No one has 'done a genocide' as we see bleated all over sm. They've got rid of thousands of combatants and if they use the death penalty on those captured well, as said, many other ME countries do exactly the same.

Twiglets1 · 03/04/2026 13:32

Stirabout · 03/04/2026 12:26

This

‘ The case is being heard because the ICJ deem it plausible
Israel are delaying the case

The International Court of Justice (ICJ) ruled in early 2024 that it is "plausible" Palestinians in Gaza are at risk of irreparable damage from genocide, ordering
Israel
to take measures to prevent genocidal acts. While not yet ruling on whether genocide has been committed, the court mandated steps to improve the humanitarian situation.
BBC +3
Key ICJ Findings and Orders

  • Plausible Risk: The court concluded in January 2024 that some of the acts alleged by South Africa were capable of falling within the Genocide Convention.
  • Provisional Measures:
  • Israel
  • was ordered to take all measures within its power to prevent the killing, harm, or destruction of Palestinians in Gaza.
  • Humanitarian Aid: The court ordered Israel to enable the provision of basic services and urgent humanitarian assistance.
  • Prevent Incitement: Israel was directed to punish public comments inciting genocide.
  • Rafah Offensive: In May 2024, the court ordered Israel to immediately halt its military offensive in Rafah, following worsening conditions.
  • Reporting: The court ordered Israel to submit a report on measures taken to comply with these orders.
Status of the Case
  • Investigation Ongoing: The ICJ has not yet made a final determination on whether
  • Israel has committed genocide.
  • Defense Extension: Israel was granted an extension until January 2026 to present its defense, as reported by the BBC.
  • Implementation: Human Rights Watch and other observers reported that, in their view, Israel has not fully complied with the ICJ's provisional measures.
  • The Guardian +2
Contextual Factors
  • Israel's Position: Israel has strongly rejected the accusations, calling the case a "blood libel" and claiming it is exercising its right to defend itself in a conflict with Hamas, not against the Palestinian people.
  • UN Commission Finding: In September 2025, a separate UN Independent International Commission of Inquiry reported that it found evidence that Israeli authorities and forces committed acts deemed as genocide.
  • Lengthy Process: Final judgments on genocide charges by the ICJ often take several years.
  • ohchr +4

The constant delays by Israel

‘ Israel has been granted multiple extensions by the
International Court of Justice (ICJ) regarding its written submissions in the genocide case brought by South Africa, with deadlines extended into 2026. These extensions, totaling over six months, have delayed the proceedings, with a final ruling now not expected until at least 2027.
The Conversation +1

  • Extensions Granted: The ICJ granted Israel extensions on its deadlines to file written briefs rebutting accusations of genocide, with key deadlines pushed back by several months.
  • Case Timeline: While South Africa filed its "memorial" (legal arguments) in October 2024, Israel was granted extensions to submit its "counter-memorial," pushing the deadline to early 2026.
  • Impact on Proceedings: These extensions mean the case, which began in December 2023, is experiencing significant delays, pushing the final ruling well into 2027.
  • The Guardian +4
Despite these procedural delays in the main case, the ICJ has issued several sets of "provisional measures" (orders) instructing Israel to take action to prevent genocide and allow aid into Gaza. The Guardian

Not denying the claim is "plausible" but the fact remains that it is not legally classed as a genocide.

So until/unless the legal judgement concludes after studying all the evidence that it was a genocide, people calling it a genocide now are giving their opinion, not fact because as even the UN admit, it cannot make a legal determination as to whether a situation constitutes genocide under international law.

The case is obviously an extremely complex one (though people think they can make a judgement on it now) as they say it will take years to conclude.

TopPocketFind · 03/04/2026 13:35

Many were combatants and as been said repeatedly on these threads hamas hide among/are accepted and encouraged in the community so therefore civilian casualties are sadly unavoidable.

Same excuse is being used for Israel/US hitting the school in Iran

Many were children and women

Boolabus · 03/04/2026 14:04

TopPocketFind · 03/04/2026 11:28

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/01/world/middleeast/lebanon-shiite-israel-evacuation.html

In private calls to local leaders across southern Lebanon, Israeli military officials have assured several Christian and Druse communities that they could remain in the evacuation zone. They have pressed them, however, to force out any Lebanese from neighboring Shiite Muslim communities who have sought refuge among them as Israeli bombardments flatten Shiite towns, according to local Christian, Druse and Shiite leaders who spoke to The New York Times. The Shiites make up the majority of southern Lebanon.

So they are assuring certain groups of safety but not others and go further by asking those they assure of safety to rat out the others? Where have we seen this before.... Chilling

AvidGoldLurker · 03/04/2026 14:09

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Gloriia · 03/04/2026 14:25

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Ok new terrorists caught then? They of course will have had nothing to do with Oct 7th..

Your links are paywalled.

I'm not a fan of the death penalty tbh but it does say here https://news.sky.com/story/eight-muslim-majority-countries-strongly-condemn-israels-new-death-penalty-law-13527142

That 'The sentence will be applied by a military court to anyone convicted of murdering an Israeli "as an act of terror".Such courts try only West Bank Palestinians, who are not Israeli citizens'

But

'Israel's courts, which try Israeli citizens, including Palestinian citizens of Israel, can choose between life imprisonment or the death penalty in cases of murder aiming to harm Israeli citizens and residents or "with the intent of rejecting the existence of the state of Israel"

So it isn't 'apartheid' is it.

TopPocketFind · 03/04/2026 14:33

Not a fan of the death penalty. How does that work?

I am against.

Boolabus · 03/04/2026 14:40

Gloriia · 03/04/2026 14:25

Ok new terrorists caught then? They of course will have had nothing to do with Oct 7th..

Your links are paywalled.

I'm not a fan of the death penalty tbh but it does say here https://news.sky.com/story/eight-muslim-majority-countries-strongly-condemn-israels-new-death-penalty-law-13527142

That 'The sentence will be applied by a military court to anyone convicted of murdering an Israeli "as an act of terror".Such courts try only West Bank Palestinians, who are not Israeli citizens'

But

'Israel's courts, which try Israeli citizens, including Palestinian citizens of Israel, can choose between life imprisonment or the death penalty in cases of murder aiming to harm Israeli citizens and residents or "with the intent of rejecting the existence of the state of Israel"

So it isn't 'apartheid' is it.

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Read the thread everything you're arguing has been covered already

Gloriia · 03/04/2026 14:43

TopPocketFind · 03/04/2026 14:33

Not a fan of the death penalty. How does that work?

I am against.

Well so am I, but they all do it in the ME and many other countries. As I posted Israel have the option of the death penalty for Israelis murdering their own citizens so this thing in the West Bank for Palestinians isn't any different is it?

Very odd that Saudi condem it when they're still chopping hands off people and beheading them. I bet they piss themselves laughing what they get away with whilst Israel is constantly attacked for much less.

And Pakistan condemn it, a country where the death penalty is in place for all kinds of things even blasphemy!

Gloriia · 03/04/2026 14:45

Boolabus · 03/04/2026 14:40

Read the thread everything you're arguing has been covered already

Just ignore me if it's 'been covered'.

I often join a thread where the same thing has been said the page before, I don't point it out I just scroll by . <Hope that hasn't been said already>.

LassiKopiano24 · 03/04/2026 16:04

What worries me most is people being charged as terrorists and put to death with little evidence and unfair trials.

pointythings · 03/04/2026 16:15

Gloriia · 03/04/2026 14:43

Well so am I, but they all do it in the ME and many other countries. As I posted Israel have the option of the death penalty for Israelis murdering their own citizens so this thing in the West Bank for Palestinians isn't any different is it?

Very odd that Saudi condem it when they're still chopping hands off people and beheading them. I bet they piss themselves laughing what they get away with whilst Israel is constantly attacked for much less.

And Pakistan condemn it, a country where the death penalty is in place for all kinds of things even blasphemy!

The point, which you have managed to miss, is that this law specifically singles out an ethnic group. That is the unacceptable bit.

Gloriia · 03/04/2026 16:17

LassiKopiano24 · 03/04/2026 16:04

What worries me most is people being charged as terrorists and put to death with little evidence and unfair trials.

Yes we've seen this happen in Iran and Gaza among other places, mass executions of civilians without trial.

Israel law enforcement is far superior as is their judicial processes so I doubt they'd execute innocent civilians, difficult as we know hamas all professed to be Doctors and journalists but Israeli intelligence are again superior so know exactly who is who.

LassiKopiano24 · 03/04/2026 16:32

Gloriia · 03/04/2026 16:17

Yes we've seen this happen in Iran and Gaza among other places, mass executions of civilians without trial.

Israel law enforcement is far superior as is their judicial processes so I doubt they'd execute innocent civilians, difficult as we know hamas all professed to be Doctors and journalists but Israeli intelligence are again superior so know exactly who is who.

Yes we have seen it in many places that carry out the death penalty, it’s medieval that it’s still in practice in any country.

I wouldn’t say the Israeli law enforcement system is far superior, they are just better at hiding their wrong doings.

Not sure why you have then started ranting on about Hamas, I never mentioned them (they are scum),You say - but Israeli intelligence are again superior so know exactly who is who. If that’s the case then they could have been more careful whilst dropping bombs on thousands of innocent civilians.

Gloriia · 03/04/2026 16:36

pointythings · 03/04/2026 16:15

The point, which you have managed to miss, is that this law specifically singles out an ethnic group. That is the unacceptable bit.

  • 'The sentence will be applied by a military court to anyone convicted of murdering an Israeli "as an act of terror".Such courts try only West Bank Palestinians, who are not Israeli citizens'*

'The law, passed by Israel's parliament on Monday and fulfilling a pledge by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's far-right allies, also gives Israeli courts the option of imposing the death penalty on Israeli citizens convicted on similar charges'

What am I missing?

Yes oppose the death penalty world wide, I'll join you but the argument that it's just the palestinians targeted is incorrect.

NattyPlayer · 03/04/2026 16:38

pointythings · 03/04/2026 16:15

The point, which you have managed to miss, is that this law specifically singles out an ethnic group. That is the unacceptable bit.

If you look at the actual wording of the new law, it doesn't single out any ethnic group. There is concern that this may be what happens when it is implemented. However, as I said upthread, there are other countries (Saudi) that do exactly the same - use the death penalty disproportionately on some groups that are less favoured. There is no outrage about that and never has been.

Someone said that we expect better of Israel, but why? They're nothing to do with us. They are an ally, as is Saudi Arabia, and they are certainly more western than places like Saudi, but culturally Israel is very different. It's not unprecedented for a democracy to become more repressive, sadly. Why are posters here so concerned with it?

Gloriia · 03/04/2026 16:39

'Not sure why you have then started ranting on about Hamas'

They tend to come up when Israel is discussed. Who knew mentioning terrorists was a 'rant'? They are closely linked, did you not know about the conflict?

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We are yes hun which also applies to Israelis in Israel not just palestinians in the west bank.

Do try and post without the insults.

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IrishSelkie · 03/04/2026 18:06

CanAnybodyFindMe · 02/04/2026 18:43

Everything I have read has said the law relates to people convicted of killings only eg this from Amnesty.

In the West Bank – excluding East Jerusalem – the law imposes the death penalty as the default sentence for those convicted of intentional killings classified as acts of terrorism under Israeli legislation, allowing life imprisonment – and life imprisonment only – in “special circumstances” that are not specified in law. Military courts may impose capital punishment by a simple majority, even without a prosecutorial request. Sentences cannot be commuted or pardoned and must be carried out within 90 days. Notably, Israeli settlers in the West Bank are explicitly excluded excluded from the scope of this provision.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2026/04/eu-israel-adoption-of-death-penalty-law-by-the-israeli-knesset-requires-urgent-eu-measures-joint-statement/

Yes, and I am saying that Palestinians have been convicted of killing someone without there ever being any evidence presented or any defence allowed. The military courts do not provide fair trials.

IrishSelkie · 03/04/2026 18:08

NattyPlayer · 03/04/2026 16:38

If you look at the actual wording of the new law, it doesn't single out any ethnic group. There is concern that this may be what happens when it is implemented. However, as I said upthread, there are other countries (Saudi) that do exactly the same - use the death penalty disproportionately on some groups that are less favoured. There is no outrage about that and never has been.

Someone said that we expect better of Israel, but why? They're nothing to do with us. They are an ally, as is Saudi Arabia, and they are certainly more western than places like Saudi, but culturally Israel is very different. It's not unprecedented for a democracy to become more repressive, sadly. Why are posters here so concerned with it?

The new law is to be used in the military courts which are only for Palestinians. Jewish defendants are in civilian courts where this law will not apply. HTH.