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Conflict in the Middle East

Israel votes for death penalty for Palestinians convicted of lethal attacks

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CanAnybodyFindMe · 31/03/2026 14:07

“Israel's far-right National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir wore a noose pin on his lapel to signal his support for the bill”

I first heard about this on Facebook and thought it might be anti-Israel fake news. But no, it’s true.

Absolutely horrifying and sickening.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp8dkd6lnjdo

Itamar Ben-Gvir wearing a black suit, red tie and white kippah, talking on a podium in front of Israeli flags

Palestinians convicted of lethal attacks face death penalty under new Israeli law

The new law, passed on Monday, was pushed hard by the far-right and Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp8dkd6lnjdo

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Boolabus · 02/04/2026 19:41

Twiglets1 · 02/04/2026 19:38

I agree the parties on offer are all unappealing but realistically, these are the 4 main parties in the UK.

That's my point fptp doesn't sustain smaller parties, with a pr system you'd likely have more which would be more representative of the entire electorate.
Anyway we're derailing so I'll leave it there.

KatiePricesKnickers · 02/04/2026 20:04

MissyB1 · 02/04/2026 15:41

Yeah that will be the difference between someone who trusts how Israel deals with Palestinians that they consider to be a criminal, and those of us who don’t trust them at all. After watching Israel’s behaviour towards Palestinians for years, particularly the last 2.5, I’m in the “don’t trust” camp. But perhaps you have their word for how this apartheid law is going to be implemented?

Have you forgotten about October 7th?

pointythings · 02/04/2026 20:14

Twiglets1 · 02/04/2026 19:38

I agree the parties on offer are all unappealing but realistically, these are the 4 main parties in the UK.

If we had PR, you would see the emergence of a great many new parties across the political spectrum. I'm from the Netherlands, which has PR - and it's astonishing how quickly the party landscape moves, with new parties emerging between elections and becoming part of a coalition first or second time out.

The extremist government Israel has is entirely down to the people who voted it in.

pointythings · 02/04/2026 20:15

KatiePricesKnickers · 02/04/2026 20:04

Have you forgotten about October 7th?

How does October 7th justify settlers killing Palestinians in the West Bank? Two wrongs do not make a right. Both things can be (and are) abhorrent.

MissyB1 · 02/04/2026 21:03

KatiePricesKnickers · 02/04/2026 20:04

Have you forgotten about October 7th?

Oh the genocide wasn’t enough punishment? Perhaps Israel won’t be happy until every single Palestinian is dead.

Namingbaba · 02/04/2026 21:20

The hang man’s noose broaches are a sick touch.

Islandsofsand · 02/04/2026 21:32

Twiglets1 · 02/04/2026 06:44

If they wanted to introduce the death penalty for those convicted of lethal terrorist attacks it would be somewhat understandable, yes.

Though again I wouldn't agree with it as I don't support the death penalty.

Somewhat understandable? That sounds like sitting on the fence.

Even if were understandable - it can never be used to condone a killing/ execution, which you agree- and to this end- I am not sure why you are posting about the context of this law. We all know each side’s grievances and horrors suffered.

I hope the Israeli Supreme Court strike out this law due to concerns about due legal processes. I would 100% have concerns about Hamas following a legally legitimate process to kill. The West Bank Palestinian civilians appear to have no functioning representation and are at the whim of Israel. It looks from the outside as completely one sided with no protection for Palestinians there.

« Israeli rights group B'Tselem says military courts in the West Bank, where only cases involving Palestinians are heard, have a 96% conviction rate and a history of extracting confessions under duress or even through torture. Israel denies this. »

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/jailed-palestinians-fear-death-by-hanging-without-due-process-under-new-israeli-2026-03-31/

TreesandGreen · 02/04/2026 21:42

KatiePricesKnickers · 02/04/2026 14:45

Massive leap there, well done.
No one throwing stones will be executed.
They are talking about the scum who were involved in Oct 7th and the hundreds of other atrocities committed against the Israelis.

You're extremely naive and ignorant on the matter.
Israeli prisons are full of innocent people.
There was a case highlighted on the news about a young man involved in a car accident/collision with a settler on the West Bank. The poor Palestinian man has been accused of deliberately crashing into the settler. He's protested his innocence, and I'm sure he is. He's at serious risk from this new law. There are 1000s of similar cases. To be clear - this obscene new law is part of a far right plan to eliminate Palestinians. It's plain as day.

TreesandGreen · 02/04/2026 21:52

KatiePricesKnickers · 02/04/2026 13:31

Not any old prisoners though, is it?
They would be convicted terrorist murderers.

I’m not surprised at the faux outrage.

Faux outrage? That's an extremely offensive thing to say. I haven't seen any faux outrage. Only very sincere upset and righteous anger about this disgusting and evil bill from Israel's far right.

By the way, it takes very little for Palestinians to be accused of terrorism.
Also, do you not have a problem with how racist this is? Jewish terrorists won't be at risk from it. It's pure apartheid in full show.

Gloriia · 03/04/2026 08:36

NattyPlayer · 02/04/2026 15:01

Saudi Arabia are a strong ally of the UK. We collaborate with them on defence, trade, energy etc. They also have major issues with misuse of the death penalty, particularly discriminatory use against Shi'a muslims. In fact it is well known that shias suffer systematic discrimination in Saudi. Interestingly, we don't hear a lot from 'anti-Saudis' that it is an apartheid state or that it is disgusting.

So while I agree that this is a horrible and important issue, I am also interested in how selective it seems to be. It can't be just chance that all the threads on the 'middle east' board just happen to be about Israel, with 90% being anti-Israel.

This. Many if not all countries in the ME have the death penalty.

As always it's only when Israel do something that folk are up in arms. I wonder why.

KatiePricesKnickers · 03/04/2026 08:42

MissyB1 · 02/04/2026 21:03

Oh the genocide wasn’t enough punishment? Perhaps Israel won’t be happy until every single Palestinian is dead.

I’ve yet to see any evidence of a genocide.
Just saying the word, doesn’t make it true.

Alexandra2001 · 03/04/2026 08:44

Gloriia · 03/04/2026 08:36

This. Many if not all countries in the ME have the death penalty.

As always it's only when Israel do something that folk are up in arms. I wonder why.

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Plenty are outraged over SA killings inc posters on here but isn't Israel supposed to be a democracy? with higher values.

This is also a thread about a new potential death penalty law, not one about Saudi and its practices.

BerthaPotts · 03/04/2026 09:00

Gloriia · 03/04/2026 08:36

This. Many if not all countries in the ME have the death penalty.

As always it's only when Israel do something that folk are up in arms. I wonder why.

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Do these countries all have it written in law that it only applies to one ethnicity? Jewish Israeli terrorists who carry out the same crimes will not recieve the same penalty.

BerthaPotts · 03/04/2026 09:02

If you are a true supporter of Israel then you should be up in arms about it.

twentyeightfishinthepond · 03/04/2026 09:39

The people who decided to do that are evil.

SunnyAfternoonToday · 03/04/2026 09:46

The proposed law still has to be ratified by Israel's Supreme Court.

Boolabus · 03/04/2026 09:56

Gloriia · 03/04/2026 08:36

This. Many if not all countries in the ME have the death penalty.

As always it's only when Israel do something that folk are up in arms. I wonder why.

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Have you read the thread? People have clearly set out their concerns with this and why it is an apartheid law.

To dismiss these real concerns as
As always it's only when Israel do something that folk are up in arms. I wonder why.
Is pretty pathetic, the law has attracted international condemnation but you're entitled to keep sticking your fingers in your ears and ignore the issues with a law that singles out one ethnic group for execution in a justice system that has no transparency or demonstrate due process.

Let's hope the supreme court does it's job and strikes down this law.

oldtiredcyclist · 03/04/2026 11:16

KatiePricesKnickers · 03/04/2026 08:42

I’ve yet to see any evidence of a genocide.
Just saying the word, doesn’t make it true.

Did you miss this then?

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/09/israel-has-committed-genocide-gaza-strip-un-commission-finds

TopPocketFind · 03/04/2026 11:28

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/01/world/middleeast/lebanon-shiite-israel-evacuation.html

In private calls to local leaders across southern Lebanon, Israeli military officials have assured several Christian and Druse communities that they could remain in the evacuation zone. They have pressed them, however, to force out any Lebanese from neighboring Shiite Muslim communities who have sought refuge among them as Israeli bombardments flatten Shiite towns, according to local Christian, Druse and Shiite leaders who spoke to The New York Times. The Shiites make up the majority of southern Lebanon.

CanAnybodyFindMe · 03/04/2026 11:32

Gloriia · 03/04/2026 08:36

This. Many if not all countries in the ME have the death penalty.

As always it's only when Israel do something that folk are up in arms. I wonder why.

Edited

Very disingenuous post. It is clearly not the fact that Israel has legislated for the death penalty that is the cause of the outrage. You know this if you have read the posts in this thread.

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BerthaPotts · 03/04/2026 11:37

I would recommend reading this article from an Israeli media source. I personally think it does very well in highlighting why the new bill is so problematic and unconstitutional. I was very pleased to see main stream media in Israel speak out against and highlight the many wrongs with this law.

BerthaPotts · 03/04/2026 11:38

Starts off very strong:

The death penalty law for Palestinians convicted of deadly acts of terror, which was fully enacted into law by the Knesset plenum earlier this week, is a stain not only on Israel’s statute books, but on the very fabric of Israeli society and the state itself.
It is a flagrantly unconstitutional law. Not only must the High Court of Justice strike it down, but any justice who fails to join such a ruling will be complicit in a moral crime, even if they remain in the minority.

TopPocketFind · 03/04/2026 11:45

Gloriia · 03/04/2026 08:36

This. Many if not all countries in the ME have the death penalty.

As always it's only when Israel do something that folk are up in arms. I wonder why.

Edited

Because we expect Israel to be better than their neighbours?

Or that used to be the case.

CanAnybodyFindMe · 03/04/2026 11:45

Gloriia · 03/04/2026 08:36

This. Many if not all countries in the ME have the death penalty.

As always it's only when Israel do something that folk are up in arms. I wonder why.

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Posts like this one shock me to my core. As I said in my OP, when I first saw this on Facebook at first I wondered if it was anti-Israel fake news. I didn’t believe that a country and regime many in the UK, including our government, support would do something so grotesque, bloodthirsty and blatantly racist. These same Israel supporters will espouse equality and decry oppression and talk about the shame of the UK’s colonialist past when talking about the UK. But something so disgusting, so clearly based on racial/ethnic injustice and so removed from decent human values, which physically sickens most (I hope) of us, doesn’t even cause a flicker of concern or revulsion or a questioning of whether Israel might have gone too far. What is going on here? Is there any limit for some people? Anything which would be a step too far?

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