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Conflict in the Middle East

Israel votes for death penalty for Palestinians convicted of lethal attacks

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CanAnybodyFindMe · 31/03/2026 14:07

“Israel's far-right National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir wore a noose pin on his lapel to signal his support for the bill”

I first heard about this on Facebook and thought it might be anti-Israel fake news. But no, it’s true.

Absolutely horrifying and sickening.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp8dkd6lnjdo

Itamar Ben-Gvir wearing a black suit, red tie and white kippah, talking on a podium in front of Israeli flags

Palestinians convicted of lethal attacks face death penalty under new Israeli law

The new law, passed on Monday, was pushed hard by the far-right and Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp8dkd6lnjdo

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Ellen2shoes · 01/05/2026 16:53

There is evidence that Palestinian prisoners are tortured and sexually abused and that trained dogs are involved.

I am also finding it difficult to understand how there could actually be a physical rape although there apparently have been rare reports. Without dismissing any possibilities, I have read and listened to some testimonials of Palestinians who have been brutally raped while terrifying dogs are at their backs. In such an intensely traumatic situation it would be very possible to conflate the rapist with the dog. There have been evidenced reports of extreme physical, sexual and psychological abuse with dogs trained to attack and maul Palestinians. Where is the outrage for this? What would Orwell think to that??

I do not understand why posters are trying to derail from this, focussing on the dogs as though it somehow detracts from the horror that prisoners had to endure if the soldiers were raping them with trained dogs at their backs so that they were led to believe they were being raped by the dogs rather than actually being raped by them? We will probably never know but at least allow the victims some dignity and accept that this is very wrong.

Ellen2shoes · 01/05/2026 17:00

FloralDeerPattern · 01/05/2026 16:45

I said you were on a thread with people making blantant racists posts which nobody reported or questioned yesterday which you were. Has anybody said that you were on the thread where there was a poster very explicitly condoning the rape of Palestinian prisoners? Talk about twisting.

Exactly

BelleHathor · 01/05/2026 17:22

Ellen2shoes · 01/05/2026 16:53

There is evidence that Palestinian prisoners are tortured and sexually abused and that trained dogs are involved.

I am also finding it difficult to understand how there could actually be a physical rape although there apparently have been rare reports. Without dismissing any possibilities, I have read and listened to some testimonials of Palestinians who have been brutally raped while terrifying dogs are at their backs. In such an intensely traumatic situation it would be very possible to conflate the rapist with the dog. There have been evidenced reports of extreme physical, sexual and psychological abuse with dogs trained to attack and maul Palestinians. Where is the outrage for this? What would Orwell think to that??

I do not understand why posters are trying to derail from this, focussing on the dogs as though it somehow detracts from the horror that prisoners had to endure if the soldiers were raping them with trained dogs at their backs so that they were led to believe they were being raped by the dogs rather than actually being raped by them? We will probably never know but at least allow the victims some dignity and accept that this is very wrong.

To challenge the derail:

[Trigger Warning - testimony of a Palestinian Detainees who were subject to/witnessed sexual abuse]
https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/6383/Gaza:-Israeli-army-systematically-uses-police-dogs-to-brutally-attack-Palestinian-civilians,-with-at-least-one-reported-rape

Yes, there is testimony, it's previously been reported:
"Israeli army’s many crimes of systematic sexual violence against Palestinian detainees, which also include nudity, sexual harassment, threats of rape, and placing sharp objects in the victim’s buttocks.

Euro-Med Monitor received horrific testimonies from recently released detainees confirming the brutal and inhumane use of Israeli police dogs to rape prisoners and detainees. Lawyer Fadi Saif al-Din Bakr, who was released on 22 February after 45 days of detention, told the Euro-Med Monitor team:

“They held me in a building they called ‘Diapers’ and forced me to wear diapers for two days. Then they dragged me into a dark, musty-smelling, closed-offroom with an iron chair in the centre. The soldiers bound my arms while I was sitting on it. I was speaking normally before I lost consciousness for a while. By the time I woke up, my foot had exploded from the electric shocks [they had given me]. The military doctor then gave me an Acamol pill, and since I was unable to move or speak, the soldiers brought me back to a barn’s and [put me in] a container for a few hours. I remained in the barn until, after a while, the soldiers hurriedly drove me and two other young men to a different location in a military jeep.

“There, the soldiers took off the blindfolds covering our eyes for the first time. The soldiers later pulled the young man sitting to my right, forced him to sleep on the ground, and tied his hands and feet. Suddenly, the occupation soldiers let loose trained police dogs on the young man, who was subjected to [rape]. Throughout the entire ordeal I endured, this was among the most awful things that I witnessed. Everything was a lot [to go through], and this was just one more [incident] added to the heap of torments. I was hoping to die so that this would not happen to me, but one of the soldiers told me to get ready. [Yet] something miraculous happened in the prison; the torture session quickly ended, and we were brought back to the barn.”

Thirty-six-year-old Hassan Abu Raida, another released detainee, stated: “They moved me and the other detainees to a prison. They threw us to the ground and made the dogs urinate on us [as we lay there]. In addition, one of the soldiers struck my right knee with an iron pipe, and I am still recovering from that injury.”

https://pchrgaza.org/pchr-documents-testimonies-of-systematic-rape-and-sexual-torture-in-israeli-detention-against-released-palestinian-detainees/

"We were stripped completely. Soldiers brought dogs that climbed on us and urinated on me. Then one of the dogs raped me—the dog did it deliberately, knowing exactly what it was doing, and inserted its penis into my anus, while the soldiers kept beating and torturing us and spraying pepper spray in our faces. The dog’s assault lasted about three minutes; the overall suppression lasted about three hours. Because of the severe beating, all of us sustained injuries across our bodies. I suffered a severe psychological breakdown and deep humiliation; I lost control because I could never have imagined experiencing such a thing"

Unbelievably evil and it has happened before, during Pinochet's dictatorship in Chile, Ingrid Olderock also trained her dog to rape detainees.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IngridOlderock

https://inkstickmedia.com/uncovering-dictatorship-violence-in-chile/

I sincerely hope that those who continually deny things like this realise that they are setting up a climate whereby in the future many more people are going to equally revise history and question events that may be important to them......

Gaza: Israeli army systematically uses police dogs to brutally attack Palestinian civilians, with at least one reported rape

Numerous incidents of Israeli forces using large police dogs during military operations in the Strip have been recorded

https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/6383/Gaza:-Israeli-army-systematically-uses-police-dogs-to-brutally-attack-Palestinian-civilians,-with-at-least-one-reported-rape

Emilesgran · 01/05/2026 17:25

FloralDeerPattern · 01/05/2026 16:47

Again swerving. You accused me of 'denying that there could possibly have been any sexual abuse of Palestinian detainees' back yourself and point out where I said that or you could just apologise and retract your allegations.

And I agree it is so simple, if you hadn't fabricated your allegations against me I wouldn't be able to believe why you don't seem to understand what is being asked of you.

Edited

This doesn't even make sense: you're saying I accused you of denying any sexual abuse??

Martymcfly24 · 01/05/2026 17:37

@BelleHathor that is beyond disturbing on so many levels.

Emilesgran · 01/05/2026 17:37

Emilesgran · 01/05/2026 17:25

This doesn't even make sense: you're saying I accused you of denying any sexual abuse??

double post

Emilesgran · 01/05/2026 17:38

BelleHathor · 01/05/2026 17:22

To challenge the derail:

[Trigger Warning - testimony of a Palestinian Detainees who were subject to/witnessed sexual abuse]
https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/6383/Gaza:-Israeli-army-systematically-uses-police-dogs-to-brutally-attack-Palestinian-civilians,-with-at-least-one-reported-rape

Yes, there is testimony, it's previously been reported:
"Israeli army’s many crimes of systematic sexual violence against Palestinian detainees, which also include nudity, sexual harassment, threats of rape, and placing sharp objects in the victim’s buttocks.

Euro-Med Monitor received horrific testimonies from recently released detainees confirming the brutal and inhumane use of Israeli police dogs to rape prisoners and detainees. Lawyer Fadi Saif al-Din Bakr, who was released on 22 February after 45 days of detention, told the Euro-Med Monitor team:

“They held me in a building they called ‘Diapers’ and forced me to wear diapers for two days. Then they dragged me into a dark, musty-smelling, closed-offroom with an iron chair in the centre. The soldiers bound my arms while I was sitting on it. I was speaking normally before I lost consciousness for a while. By the time I woke up, my foot had exploded from the electric shocks [they had given me]. The military doctor then gave me an Acamol pill, and since I was unable to move or speak, the soldiers brought me back to a barn’s and [put me in] a container for a few hours. I remained in the barn until, after a while, the soldiers hurriedly drove me and two other young men to a different location in a military jeep.

“There, the soldiers took off the blindfolds covering our eyes for the first time. The soldiers later pulled the young man sitting to my right, forced him to sleep on the ground, and tied his hands and feet. Suddenly, the occupation soldiers let loose trained police dogs on the young man, who was subjected to [rape]. Throughout the entire ordeal I endured, this was among the most awful things that I witnessed. Everything was a lot [to go through], and this was just one more [incident] added to the heap of torments. I was hoping to die so that this would not happen to me, but one of the soldiers told me to get ready. [Yet] something miraculous happened in the prison; the torture session quickly ended, and we were brought back to the barn.”

Thirty-six-year-old Hassan Abu Raida, another released detainee, stated: “They moved me and the other detainees to a prison. They threw us to the ground and made the dogs urinate on us [as we lay there]. In addition, one of the soldiers struck my right knee with an iron pipe, and I am still recovering from that injury.”

https://pchrgaza.org/pchr-documents-testimonies-of-systematic-rape-and-sexual-torture-in-israeli-detention-against-released-palestinian-detainees/

"We were stripped completely. Soldiers brought dogs that climbed on us and urinated on me. Then one of the dogs raped me—the dog did it deliberately, knowing exactly what it was doing, and inserted its penis into my anus, while the soldiers kept beating and torturing us and spraying pepper spray in our faces. The dog’s assault lasted about three minutes; the overall suppression lasted about three hours. Because of the severe beating, all of us sustained injuries across our bodies. I suffered a severe psychological breakdown and deep humiliation; I lost control because I could never have imagined experiencing such a thing"

Unbelievably evil and it has happened before, during Pinochet's dictatorship in Chile, Ingrid Olderock also trained her dog to rape detainees.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IngridOlderock

https://inkstickmedia.com/uncovering-dictatorship-violence-in-chile/

I sincerely hope that those who continually deny things like this realise that they are setting up a climate whereby in the future many more people are going to equally revise history and question events that may be important to them......

Edited

That wiki link doesn't work, but I've read most of the second one, in Spanish. I've no idea how reliable it is, but even if every single bit of it is true, that doesn't make the IDF allegations true - just vaguely possible.
It's an allegation, not proof, and moreover an allegation about one country decades ago. It doesn't make other allegations about other countries true. As an experienced dog owner, I can't see it as being plausible.

BelleHathor · 01/05/2026 18:17

Martymcfly24 · 01/05/2026 17:37

@BelleHathor that is beyond disturbing on so many levels.

It absolutely is, though we're only reading testimony nit having to witnesss/experience it. I hate having to post it again as the last time this was discussed in 2024 it was similarly dismissed.

Correct wiki link for the Chilean abuse:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingrid_Olderock

Ingrid Olderock - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingrid_Olderock

FloralDeerPattern · 01/05/2026 18:18

Emilesgran · 01/05/2026 17:25

This doesn't even make sense: you're saying I accused you of denying any sexual abuse??

Ah you know exactly what I meant, you said that you were accused of 'denying that there could possibly have been any sexual abuse of Palestinian detainees' which never happened, I know that made up stories are hard to keep track of but you said it just up thread so should probably remember. You did deny sexual violence towards Palestinians, i have no idea nor do I want to know if you deny any and all sexual abuse, but I know for a fact that you denied some,you know for a fact that you denied some, you even called it antisemitism to believe Palestinians testimonies of abuse.

Stirabout · 01/05/2026 18:27

Emilesgran · 01/05/2026 17:38

That wiki link doesn't work, but I've read most of the second one, in Spanish. I've no idea how reliable it is, but even if every single bit of it is true, that doesn't make the IDF allegations true - just vaguely possible.
It's an allegation, not proof, and moreover an allegation about one country decades ago. It doesn't make other allegations about other countries true. As an experienced dog owner, I can't see it as being plausible.

I own a dog
Doesn’t make me an expert

Unless people have tried to train their dogs to rape they have no idea at all

It’s been mentioned on here that it’s not possible. It seems it is

So that idea has been debunked thanks to @BelleHathor research
Perhaps wiser then to do the research before dismissing it out of hand

The wiki doesn’t work but if you Google her you will find more on it.

Martymcfly24 · 01/05/2026 18:54

BelleHathor · 01/05/2026 18:17

It absolutely is, though we're only reading testimony nit having to witnesss/experience it. I hate having to post it again as the last time this was discussed in 2024 it was similarly dismissed.

Correct wiki link for the Chilean abuse:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingrid_Olderock

It will always be dismissed like
-the declared famine
-the murdered medics
-the children snipered by drones
-Hind Rajab
-those murdered queuing for food

Nothing will make some people believe and that wont change especially when their proof is from a morally bankrupt military.

It's such a savage calculated torture. The hatred must run so deep.

Emilesgran · 01/05/2026 18:56

Martymcfly24 · 01/05/2026 18:54

It will always be dismissed like
-the declared famine
-the murdered medics
-the children snipered by drones
-Hind Rajab
-those murdered queuing for food

Nothing will make some people believe and that wont change especially when their proof is from a morally bankrupt military.

It's such a savage calculated torture. The hatred must run so deep.

https://x.com/MarinaMedvin/status/2050192479157096608?s=20

Marina Medvin 🇺🇸 (@MarinaMedvin) on X

The history of Israel in one game.

https://twitter.com/MarinaMedvin/status/2050192479157096608?s=20

Martymcfly24 · 01/05/2026 19:09

I'm not on x

Emilesgran · 01/05/2026 19:14

Martymcfly24 · 01/05/2026 19:09

I'm not on x

Usually works on nitter
https://nitter.net/MarinaMedvin/status/2050192479157096608?s=20

Emilesgran · 01/05/2026 19:19

Stirabout · 01/05/2026 18:27

I own a dog
Doesn’t make me an expert

Unless people have tried to train their dogs to rape they have no idea at all

It’s been mentioned on here that it’s not possible. It seems it is

So that idea has been debunked thanks to @BelleHathor research
Perhaps wiser then to do the research before dismissing it out of hand

The wiki doesn’t work but if you Google her you will find more on it.

Edited

It hasn't been debunked, you just found another allegation, decades before and on another continent. How do you know that one is true?

Stirabout · 01/05/2026 19:33

Emilesgran · 01/05/2026 19:19

It hasn't been debunked, you just found another allegation, decades before and on another continent. How do you know that one is true?

Read the links
They are reputable sources !
not X

It is mind boggling to think that just because something that happened decades ago couldn’t possibly also happen now …. ????!!!

Stirabout · 01/05/2026 19:34

Crap from twitter

Stirabout · 01/05/2026 19:35

Martymcfly24 · 01/05/2026 19:09

I'm not on x

It’s just crap from Twitter

Martymcfly24 · 01/05/2026 19:37

Emilesgran · 01/05/2026 19:14

Edited

You're grand thanks
I just googled her name .

She a lawyer who defended the January 6th rioters and denies all atrocities in Palestine.

Emilesgran · 01/05/2026 20:52

Martymcfly24 · 01/05/2026 19:37

You're grand thanks
I just googled her name .

She a lawyer who defended the January 6th rioters and denies all atrocities in Palestine.

Edited

LOL she didn't make the clip, I just copied it from there.

Emilesgran · 01/05/2026 20:55

Stirabout · 01/05/2026 19:33

Read the links
They are reputable sources !
not X

It is mind boggling to think that just because something that happened decades ago couldn’t possibly also happen now …. ????!!!

I did. The claims about the dogs are just allegations, there's no mention of, for example, forensic or other evidence at all. That doesn't mean the sources are lying, just that they're printing unproven testimony, and can't stand over every single detail.

Martymcfly24 · 01/05/2026 21:16

Emilesgran · 01/05/2026 20:52

LOL she didn't make the clip, I just copied it from there.

Hilarious??

As I said I don't use x so I just googled the owner of the account who obviously supports the contents. She's not someone I would be taking any information from .

Stirabout · 01/05/2026 21:19

Emilesgran · 01/05/2026 20:52

LOL she didn't make the clip, I just copied it from there.

‘Copied it from there’

mm
Interesting that you read stuff from other deniers too though

Stirabout · 01/05/2026 21:26

Today in the Times of Israel

UN watchdog argues Israel’s death penalty law perpetuates racial discrimination

By AFP and ARIELA KARMEL

Today, 12:10 pm
6

Israel’s new death penalty law perpetuates racial discrimination against Palestinians, a United Nations committee argues, urging its immediate repeal.

The highly controversial law passed by the Knesset last monthmandates the death penalty as the default sentence for West Bank Palestinians convicted of carrying out deadly terror attacks in the West Bank.

The law amounts to a grave erosion of human rights, the UN Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination says in a statement.
“The new law is a severe blow to human rights, rolling back Israel’s long-standing de facto moratorium on executions since 1962 and expanding the use of the death penalty,” the committee says.

The law is “de facto applicable to Palestinians only” and sets a 90-day deadline for executions once a final judgement is rendered, the committee claims.

Furthermore, it says Israel should ensure that all Palestinian detainees “are guaranteed their rights to equal treatment before the law, security of person, protection against violence or bodily harm, and access to justice.”

The committee also calls on Israel to “end all policies and practices that amount to racial discrimination against and segregation of Palestinians.”

It asserts other countries should “ensure that their resources are not used to enforce or support discriminatory policies and practices against Palestinians living in the Occupied Palestinian Territory.”

The committee of 18 independent experts monitors adherence to the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination by its 182 state parties.

Under the convention, which came into force in 1969, countries must eliminate racial discrimination, eradicate practices of segregation and guarantee equality before the law without distinction as to race, color, descent or national or ethnic origin.
Israel ratified the convention in 1979.

Israel’s legal code already contains the death penalty, although it is so rarely invoked that it has only ever been implemented a single time, against Nazi war criminal Adolf Eichmann (Meir Tobianski was executed as a traitor after a drumhead court martial in 1948, and exonerated a year later).

In contrast, the new measure ensures the regular exercise of capital punishment,
stripping judges of broad discretion in sentencing,
neutering the appeals process and removing several procedural safeguards.

Israeli legal scholars have said the law, promoted by far-right National Security Minister Itamar Ben Gvir’s Otzma Yehudit party, contains serious constitutional defects, including violating the right to life, and is discriminatory in that it applies almost exclusively to Palestinians. In addition, experts argue, there is no proof that it would achieve its stated goal of deterring terrorism.
While the law is being challenged in the High Court, legal experts say it is far from certain that the bench will strike it down in its entirety.’

Israel votes for death penalty for Palestinians convicted of lethal attacks
rainingsnoring · 02/05/2026 02:12

Martymcfly24 · 01/05/2026 19:09

I'm not on x

Don't waste your time joining X to watch this. It's pathetic, one sided nonsense.
It's sad how many people are more than happy to turn a blind eye to the abuse and murder being committed over such a long period of time by the Israelis.