Israel votes for death penalty for Palestinians convicted of lethal attacks

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“Israel's far-right National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir wore a noose pin on his lapel to signal his support for the bill”

I first heard about this on Facebook and thought it might be anti-Israel fake news. But no, it’s true.

Absolutely horrifying and sickening.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp8dkd6lnjdo

So Israel has managed to make sure that ALL convictions are 100% safe? and that no Palestinian executed isn't innocent?

Are you aware that plenty of people, all around the world, have been hung and been jailed for very long periods, only to be found to be innocent, bad enough when its after prison but after an execution.....

Faux outrage? disgusting thing to say about people opposed to the taking of human life, but no surprise from the pro Israeli lobby, they really can do no wrong.

Convicted terrorist? Well being a teenage Palestinian who throws a stone will be enough to get convicted of that I suspect 🙄

I suppose if you don’t consider people of all races and ethnicities to be equal, and don’t believe that treatment including under the law should be the same for all, I suppose you might not believe that people are genuinely outraged.

And if you don’t find the bloodthirsty celebratory behaviour of some of the Knesset (wearing noose lapel badges, drinking champagne to celebrate) sickening and inhumane, you might not understand people’s heartfelt revulsion.

None of us on this thread are defending or applauding the wearing of golden nooses or champagne celebrations though are we?

Though you don't know how we were raised seeing as we are strangers on the internet, nevertheless we have all expressed dislike of the above crass behaviour.

Massive leap there, well done.
No one throwing stones will be executed.
They are talking about the scum who were involved in Oct 7th and the hundreds of other atrocities committed against the Israelis.

Saudi Arabia are a strong ally of the UK. We collaborate with them on defence, trade, energy etc. They also have major issues with misuse of the death penalty, particularly discriminatory use against Shi'a muslims. In fact it is well known that shias suffer systematic discrimination in Saudi. Interestingly, we don't hear a lot from 'anti-Saudis' that it is an apartheid state or that it is disgusting.

So while I agree that this is a horrible and important issue, I am also interested in how selective it seems to be. It can't be just chance that all the threads on the 'middle east' board just happen to be about Israel, with 90% being anti-Israel.

Yes it only applies to West Bank residents convicted of deadly terrorist acts.

Not intended to punish kids throwing stones (though that could be highly dangerous).

Actually I did read in the Times of Israel though that the law will not apply retroactively, so a separate bill is being advanced for the perpetrators of the October 7 attacks.

Yeah that will be the difference between someone who trusts how Israel deals with Palestinians that they consider to be a criminal, and those of us who don’t trust them at all. After watching Israel’s behaviour towards Palestinians for years, particularly the last 2.5, I’m in the “don’t trust” camp. But perhaps you have their word for how this apartheid law is going to be implemented?

Settler attacks against Palestinians are on the rise with reports of almost daily attacks. In the past month alone they have led to the indiscriminate murder of Palestinians. I can't understand why these acts of terror are treated differently? The stats for convictions against extremist settlers is also shockingly low. In short they can quite literally get away with murder.

Why are settlers who carry acts of terror against Palestinians treated with such leniency?

And I am sorry to say, but this law is a clear apartheid law. There is no other way to see it.

I expect your question, though both pertinent and valid, is rhetorical.

Zionists in the occupied West Bank have always had carte blanche to murder the indigenous Palestinians at will.

And the World has always, and will continue to turn a blind eye.

So no problem with executing innocent people, which will happen, as it has here in the UK and in other countries with the death penalty.

The proposed law says "Murdering Israelis and acts that harm the state... so not only murder....

Then they should do the same to the scum who are attacking and killing Palestinians in the West Bank. Oh wait, that would be the IDF...

and the Israeli settlers

racism is so much more
https://theicenter.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/Arab-Resource-with-Source-Sheet-121923.pdf

The military courts have a 99% conviction rate. The accused are not allowed to know what they are charged with, no evidence is presented, they are not allowed legal representation and and definition of a terrorist act leading to execution doesn’t require any deaths to have happened.

Yep. Same for them. No apartheid laws based on ethnicity. Israel is making itself a pariah state.

I feel sorry for the Israelis who didn't vote for this shitshow.

The law passed in the Knesset (parliament) not as a referendum or something. It doesn’t matter who thinks what among the population, the only thing that matters here is the consequences of proportional representation and the disgusting current coalition which gave way too much power to the minority far right to pursue their racist agenda because without their support Bibi wouldn’t have a government.

Everything I have read has said the law relates to people convicted of killings only eg this from Amnesty.

In the West Bank – excluding East Jerusalem – the law imposes the death penalty as the default sentence for those convicted of intentional killings classified as acts of terrorism under Israeli legislation, allowing life imprisonment – and life imprisonment only – in “special circumstances” that are not specified in law. Military courts may impose capital punishment by a simple majority, even without a prosecutorial request. Sentences cannot be commuted or pardoned and must be carried out within 90 days. Notably, Israeli settlers in the West Bank are explicitly excluded excluded from the scope of this provision.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2026/04/eu-israel-adoption-of-death-penalty-law-by-the-israeli-knesset-requires-urgent-eu-measures-joint-statement/

I always used to think proportional representation was a good thing and it was a shame we didn't have it in the UK.

The current coalition in Israel definitely shows the dangers though. Maybe the system here isn't so bad after all! PR would make it more likely we would get extremists in charge too like Reform or - unfortunately, these days - the Green party.

Thank you for sharing your knowledge on here.

Proportional representation is not the problem. I vote in a proportional representative system and as a voter you are fully aware who the parties/ candidates are likely to go into a coalition with if they need the numbers, I doubt it was a surprise to anyone who the Likud party would go into coalition with to get a majority, yet people still voted for them and people voted to get gvir and his ilk into parliament. It's a cop out blaming the voting system imo.

PR would make it more likely we would get extremists in charge

No it wouldn't, it would be less likely because they are unlikely to find a party to go into government with to make up a majority, if they do well that's an issue with the party that goes into coalition with them not the system. Edited to add there are different types of PR systems they don't all operate the same way

You're entitled to your opinion but so am I and I think it would.

I think the Conservatives could join with Reform for example to form a coalition party.

Or Labour could join with the Green Party.

The way things work in our current system we always seem to get the Conservatives or Labour and either would be more moderate on their own than with the coalition partners they would gravitate to in order to win an election.

I think your example of the parties on offer demonstrates how inadequate the fptp system is.
My opinion is based on being a voter who has experienced both systems

I agree the parties on offer are all unappealing but realistically, these are the 4 main parties in the UK.