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Conflict in the Middle East

Israel votes for death penalty for Palestinians convicted of lethal attacks

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CanAnybodyFindMe · 31/03/2026 14:07

“Israel's far-right National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir wore a noose pin on his lapel to signal his support for the bill”

I first heard about this on Facebook and thought it might be anti-Israel fake news. But no, it’s true.

Absolutely horrifying and sickening.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp8dkd6lnjdo

Itamar Ben-Gvir wearing a black suit, red tie and white kippah, talking on a podium in front of Israeli flags

Palestinians convicted of lethal attacks face death penalty under new Israeli law

The new law, passed on Monday, was pushed hard by the far-right and Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp8dkd6lnjdo

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MissyB1 · 29/04/2026 07:29

FloralDeerPattern · 28/04/2026 22:59

With recent reports about the extent of the sexual violence towards Palestinians in detention it isn't really surprising that Israel want to escalate from raping people to killing them is it? Palestinians are not being treated as humans by the IDF by any stretch of the imagination, it's difficult to see that there will be much objection to this when there has been very little objection to Palestinian people being subjected extreme sexual violence.

Yes sadly that makes sense. It’s hard to even have the words 😢

Emilesgran · 29/04/2026 07:37

Ellen2shoes · 28/04/2026 22:11

Let’s not sanction Israel because they haven’t attacked Jordan or Egypt!

Should we lift sanctions on Russia because they haven’t attacked Poland or China?

This has been explained to you but I’ll repeat: Egypt and Jordan both ATTACKED Israel, lost land, and despite that, Israel have back the land they’d lost in exchange for Egypt and Jordan committing to no longer attacking Israel.

And since then, Israel has never attacked Egypt or Jordan. It has only attacked those who have attacked Israel.

There’s just no comparison with Russia which was not under attack by Ukraine, Poland or China when it invaded Ukraine.

Ellen2shoes · 29/04/2026 07:42

FloralDeerPattern · 28/04/2026 22:59

With recent reports about the extent of the sexual violence towards Palestinians in detention it isn't really surprising that Israel want to escalate from raping people to killing them is it? Palestinians are not being treated as humans by the IDF by any stretch of the imagination, it's difficult to see that there will be much objection to this when there has been very little objection to Palestinian people being subjected extreme sexual violence.

It is utterly horrific. Palestinians, including minors, are still routinely being rounded up and detained without charge.

The rapists get a standing ovation.

Boolabus · 29/04/2026 08:12

Emilesgran · 29/04/2026 07:37

This has been explained to you but I’ll repeat: Egypt and Jordan both ATTACKED Israel, lost land, and despite that, Israel have back the land they’d lost in exchange for Egypt and Jordan committing to no longer attacking Israel.

And since then, Israel has never attacked Egypt or Jordan. It has only attacked those who have attacked Israel.

There’s just no comparison with Russia which was not under attack by Ukraine, Poland or China when it invaded Ukraine.

Why are you going back to the 1960s/70s As if it is somehow relevant to the actions of the current Israeli government and what they do. Because it's not and using it as some sort of justification for Israel's actions in Palestine and Lebanon makes no sense and less sense on this thread which is discussing the death penalty for Palestinian detainees.

Emilesgran · 29/04/2026 08:27

Boolabus · 29/04/2026 08:12

Why are you going back to the 1960s/70s As if it is somehow relevant to the actions of the current Israeli government and what they do. Because it's not and using it as some sort of justification for Israel's actions in Palestine and Lebanon makes no sense and less sense on this thread which is discussing the death penalty for Palestinian detainees.

It’s relevant when people are accusing Israel of attacking neighbouring countries. They don’t though - they only attack those who are attacking them.
And the proof is that other countries with whom they’ve previously been at war have not been attacked NOW.
ONLY the ones that are attacking them NOW.

See how that works?

Boolabus · 29/04/2026 08:30

Emilesgran · 29/04/2026 08:27

It’s relevant when people are accusing Israel of attacking neighbouring countries. They don’t though - they only attack those who are attacking them.
And the proof is that other countries with whom they’ve previously been at war have not been attacked NOW.
ONLY the ones that are attacking them NOW.

See how that works?

See how that works?
No none of what you've said gives us much insight into current Israeli policy or proves Israel only attack when attacked. Things are far more complicated than that as well you know. For instance are Egypt and Jordan illegally occupied?
And what has any of this to do with treatment of Palestinian detainees in Israel?

Alexandra2001 · 29/04/2026 08:34

Emilesgran · 29/04/2026 08:27

It’s relevant when people are accusing Israel of attacking neighbouring countries. They don’t though - they only attack those who are attacking them.
And the proof is that other countries with whom they’ve previously been at war have not been attacked NOW.
ONLY the ones that are attacking them NOW.

See how that works?

Israel has the right to defend itself, i don't think too many people would disagree with that idea.

What is Israel is doing though is far beyond that, bombing schools, hospitals, targeting medical workers, journalists, the torture of detainies.

The mass killing of civilians, how can anyone justify 80k Gazan deaths? now using the tactics in Lebanon.

The current Israeli govt has wrecked Israel's reputation around the world.

Twiglets1 · 29/04/2026 08:36

Emilesgran · 29/04/2026 08:27

It’s relevant when people are accusing Israel of attacking neighbouring countries. They don’t though - they only attack those who are attacking them.
And the proof is that other countries with whom they’ve previously been at war have not been attacked NOW.
ONLY the ones that are attacking them NOW.

See how that works?

Yes it's a good point well made @Emilesgran that Israel only attack those who are attacking them.

People who won't acknowledge that just can't see beyond hating Israel so they have to divert attention from that simple truth.

Emilesgran · 29/04/2026 08:43

Alexandra2001 · 29/04/2026 08:34

Israel has the right to defend itself, i don't think too many people would disagree with that idea.

What is Israel is doing though is far beyond that, bombing schools, hospitals, targeting medical workers, journalists, the torture of detainies.

The mass killing of civilians, how can anyone justify 80k Gazan deaths? now using the tactics in Lebanon.

The current Israeli govt has wrecked Israel's reputation around the world.

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Every country that has ever gone to war has committed war crimes and there’s no reason to think Israel is different. Pakistan bombed a hospital in Kabul only weeks ago and nobody seemed to care much about that.

Israel was attacked and Israel responded. Only Israel is held to a different, higher standard where it’s expected to take years of rocket attacks against its civilians without responding - and when it does respond it’s blamed for being stronger than those who attacked Israeli civilians first.

Not only that but even Jews without Israeli nationality are attacked around the world, and the very same people claiming only to object to Israel’s actions rush to explain that of course Jews everywhere must expect to be blamed for Israel’s action or just existence.

It’s bizarre. Almost as though there was a special level of hatred for Israelis and Jews generally.

If only there was a word for that.

Twiglets1 · 29/04/2026 08:46

Emilesgran · 29/04/2026 08:43

Every country that has ever gone to war has committed war crimes and there’s no reason to think Israel is different. Pakistan bombed a hospital in Kabul only weeks ago and nobody seemed to care much about that.

Israel was attacked and Israel responded. Only Israel is held to a different, higher standard where it’s expected to take years of rocket attacks against its civilians without responding - and when it does respond it’s blamed for being stronger than those who attacked Israeli civilians first.

Not only that but even Jews without Israeli nationality are attacked around the world, and the very same people claiming only to object to Israel’s actions rush to explain that of course Jews everywhere must expect to be blamed for Israel’s action or just existence.

It’s bizarre. Almost as though there was a special level of hatred for Israelis and Jews generally.

If only there was a word for that.

No one's antisemitic!

They just have a special hatred for Israel and in some cases, Jews generally.

Stirabout · 29/04/2026 09:05

Emilesgran · 29/04/2026 08:43

Every country that has ever gone to war has committed war crimes and there’s no reason to think Israel is different. Pakistan bombed a hospital in Kabul only weeks ago and nobody seemed to care much about that.

Israel was attacked and Israel responded. Only Israel is held to a different, higher standard where it’s expected to take years of rocket attacks against its civilians without responding - and when it does respond it’s blamed for being stronger than those who attacked Israeli civilians first.

Not only that but even Jews without Israeli nationality are attacked around the world, and the very same people claiming only to object to Israel’s actions rush to explain that of course Jews everywhere must expect to be blamed for Israel’s action or just existence.

It’s bizarre. Almost as though there was a special level of hatred for Israelis and Jews generally.

If only there was a word for that.

Israel is no more special than any other aggressor

Alexandra2001 · 29/04/2026 09:06

Emilesgran · 29/04/2026 08:43

Every country that has ever gone to war has committed war crimes and there’s no reason to think Israel is different. Pakistan bombed a hospital in Kabul only weeks ago and nobody seemed to care much about that.

Israel was attacked and Israel responded. Only Israel is held to a different, higher standard where it’s expected to take years of rocket attacks against its civilians without responding - and when it does respond it’s blamed for being stronger than those who attacked Israeli civilians first.

Not only that but even Jews without Israeli nationality are attacked around the world, and the very same people claiming only to object to Israel’s actions rush to explain that of course Jews everywhere must expect to be blamed for Israel’s action or just existence.

It’s bizarre. Almost as though there was a special level of hatred for Israelis and Jews generally.

If only there was a word for that.

Oh so war crimes are now all ok.

This is why we are where we are, Israel can do no wrong, what they do is excusable and all good to go in the world of the pro mass murderers.

@Twiglets1 as for people hating jews.... well i think you will find plenty of people hate Russians for what they are doing in Ukraine or hating Iranians for gunning down students.

Its the actions people hate.

Boolabus · 29/04/2026 09:09

Twiglets1 · 29/04/2026 08:46

No one's antisemitic!

They just have a special hatred for Israel and in some cases, Jews generally.

Who are you talking about here?

What is the agenda of those deflecting from the thread title of the death penalty for Palestinian detainees in Israel and the horrific reports of their rape and abuse? I'm quite concerned about people's need to do that.

Twiglets1 · 29/04/2026 09:09

Alexandra2001 · 29/04/2026 09:06

Oh so war crimes are now all ok.

This is why we are where we are, Israel can do no wrong, what they do is excusable and all good to go in the world of the pro mass murderers.

@Twiglets1 as for people hating jews.... well i think you will find plenty of people hate Russians for what they are doing in Ukraine or hating Iranians for gunning down students.

Its the actions people hate.

Where are all these people who hate Russians for what they are doing in Ukraine? I don't see them on social media including Mumsnet.

Also, there is no big backlash against Iranians, that I am aware of. It is the IRGC Westerners hate and want proscribed as the terrorists they undoubtedly are.

Twiglets1 · 29/04/2026 09:14

Boolabus · 29/04/2026 09:09

Who are you talking about here?

What is the agenda of those deflecting from the thread title of the death penalty for Palestinian detainees in Israel and the horrific reports of their rape and abuse? I'm quite concerned about people's need to do that.

Threads get diverted onto other topics all the time.

I get frustrated by it sometimes on threads I have started to discuss a particular topic - but get told that people can post where they want about what they want.

There is no more agenda on this thread than all the dozens of others where the debate meanders around and covers lots of other subjects beyond the original thread title.

Stirabout · 29/04/2026 09:16

Boolabus · 29/04/2026 09:09

Who are you talking about here?

What is the agenda of those deflecting from the thread title of the death penalty for Palestinian detainees in Israel and the horrific reports of their rape and abuse? I'm quite concerned about people's need to do that.

this has been the pro Israeli modus operandi on these threads for years now
They don’t like discussing Israeli atrocities

Alexandra2001 · 29/04/2026 09:24

Twiglets1 · 29/04/2026 09:09

Where are all these people who hate Russians for what they are doing in Ukraine? I don't see them on social media including Mumsnet.

Also, there is no big backlash against Iranians, that I am aware of. It is the IRGC Westerners hate and want proscribed as the terrorists they undoubtedly are.

Lol! at the time of the invasion, MN and other SM outlets were full of condemnation against Russian actions.

But the scale of what Israel has done in Gaza exceeds what Russia has done in Ukraine, now intend to seek the death penalty for Palestinians only, no right of appeal, military court only.

Should this law be enacted, how many innocent Palestinians will need to be executed before people will condemn their actions?

It is yet again another example of Israel treating Palestinians as sub human.

Stirabout · 29/04/2026 09:27

The Israeli Govn just keeps getting worse

‘ Israeli Lawmakers Approve Expanded Death Penalty for West Bank Offenses

Members of the Israeli parliament—known as the Knesset—wore noose pins fastened to their lapels on March 30, 2026, as they voted to pass a controversial bill that expands the use of the death penalty for terrorism-related offenses, disproportionately affecting Palestinians in the West Bank.

Under the new legislation, Palestinians convicted of killing an Israeli “with the intent to negate the existence of the State of Israel” must be executed by hanging within 90 days of sentencing, without the right to appeal.

The bill applies specifically to military courts, which exclusively hear cases concerning Palestinians living in the West Bank; it reads, "... his sentence shall be death, and this penalty only."
According to a statement by Israeli human rights group, B’Tselem, “These courts have an approximately 96% conviction rate, based largely on ‘confessions’ extracted under duress and torture during interrogations.”

In addition to the execution mandate, the bill limits access to legal counsel and visits from family members, restricts external oversight, and grants immunity to those involved in performing executions.

The framing of the bill explicitly shields Israeli citizens and settlers from the penalty, as they are tried in civilian, not military courts.
A unanimous consensus is no longer required for conviction under the new law; a simple majority among judges is sufficient to condemn an individual to hanging. The statute has been a long time coming for proponents of the bill, who have been pushing for the reinstatement of a death penalty since the Hamas-led terror attacks of October 7, 2023. Israeli National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir has been the driving force, subsequently celebrating with champagne on the parliament floor following the majority vote.
A total of 62 out of 120 members of the parliament voted to pass the resolution, with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu attending to cast a supporting vote. 48 voted against, while the rest abstained.

The bill has since received criticism from international organizations and state authorities alike. The UN High Commissioner for Human Rights labeled the new legislation as a violation of international law and urged Israel to repeal the bill.

In addition to the Palestinian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, eight Muslim countries and several European states—Egypt, Pakistan, France, and Germany included— have released statements denouncing the Knesset’s decision.
Far-right proponents of the bill claim the legislation will deter violence against the Israeli state and put an end to the cycle of prisoner exchanges between Israel and Palestine. Studies have shown, however, that imposing the death penalty could do little to deter crime and may, in some cases, have the opposite effect. Individuals who knowingly commit a capital offense lose any incentive to limit the severity of their actions, as there is no lesser punishment to fall back on.
Amnesty International provides a useful hypothetical for understanding this potentiality: “if armed robbery carries the death penalty, the robber loses nothing by committing murders while attempting to flee.” In the West Bank, the law has the potential to encourage greater severity of violence.
Polling has shown that a majority of Jewish Israelis support the execution of Palestinian militants in principle, however several lawmakers from within the Israeli Knesset voiced their opposition to the statute.
The law remains vulnerable to being struck down by Israel’s highest court before it is put into practice.

Minutes after the bill was passed, the Association of Civil Rights in Israel stated it had already petitioned the Supreme Court to challenge the statute.
The legality of the law has been questioned, considering Israel's status as an occupying power in the West Bank.
From an international law standpoint, the Israeli Knesset does not hold the authority to impose legislation on an occupied territory. This, combined with its inherently discriminatory structure, poses several legal complications.

Whether it ultimately survives the test of the courts or not, the bill sends a powerful message as an attempt to enshrine the abuse of Palestinians into law and normalize their execution as a common disciplinary tool. If nothing else, the statute adds fuel to the Israel-Palestine conflict and clearly demonstrates that Israel is prepared to escalate the situation.
“Soon we will count them one by one,” said Israeli National Security Minister Itamar Ben Gvir as he poured champagne into his colleagues’ glasses on the parliament floor. “From today, every terrorist will know, and the whole world will know, that whoever takes a life, the state of Israel will take their life.”

Twiglets1 · 29/04/2026 09:37

Alexandra2001 · 29/04/2026 09:24

Lol! at the time of the invasion, MN and other SM outlets were full of condemnation against Russian actions.

But the scale of what Israel has done in Gaza exceeds what Russia has done in Ukraine, now intend to seek the death penalty for Palestinians only, no right of appeal, military court only.

Should this law be enacted, how many innocent Palestinians will need to be executed before people will condemn their actions?

It is yet again another example of Israel treating Palestinians as sub human.

At the time of the invasion people were naturally condemning the actions of Putin, yes.

People were not hating Russians and there has still been no big backlash against Iranians or Russians for what their leaders/armies are doing in their wars.

Twiglets1 · 29/04/2026 09:42

Stirabout · 29/04/2026 09:16

this has been the pro Israeli modus operandi on these threads for years now
They don’t like discussing Israeli atrocities

Why would we regularly add to the thousands of posts discussing Israeli atrocities? We do occasionally, but someone has to provide some balance to the echo chamber by defending Israel or challenging misinformation.

Where are the thousands of posts discussing Hamas or Hezbollah atrocities? Far fewer in number and they always come from the (much fewer) numbers of us on here who openly support Israel.

Stirabout · 29/04/2026 10:03

Twiglets1 · 29/04/2026 09:42

Why would we regularly add to the thousands of posts discussing Israeli atrocities? We do occasionally, but someone has to provide some balance to the echo chamber by defending Israel or challenging misinformation.

Where are the thousands of posts discussing Hamas or Hezbollah atrocities? Far fewer in number and they always come from the (much fewer) numbers of us on here who openly support Israel.

This thread is about the death penalty
You Say comments are offering balance but they are not…they are derailing away from Israel’s death penalty

Offering balance means discussing other opinions. Not discussing something else completely.

It has been the modus operandi for years.

comments on associated press on the Israeli death penalty

RESTRICTION SUMMARY:

ASSOCIATED PRESS
Tel Aviv, Israel - 31 March 2026

  1. Attorney Elza Bugnet, working at the Legal Department of The Association for Civil Rights in Israel (ACRI)

"This law is particularly cruel and barbaric. First of all, it is tailored to the measures of Palestinians, which makes it so extremely discriminatory and unequal. As part of this, it also severely undermines the right to a fair trial by depriving defendants, especially those tried in military courts in the West Bank, of very basic procedural rights. It makes the imposition of the death penalty particularly easy, allowing for the death penalty to be imposed without unanimity, as is customary in a few US states where the death penalty is still enforced."

Given the death penalty will now be extended to the West Bank I wonder now…..
will the Israeli Govn also include Lebanon or /and Iran in the future. They do seem to be so arrogant as to think they can control who ever they want.

Emilesgran · 29/04/2026 10:18

Stirabout · 29/04/2026 09:05

Israel is no more special than any other aggressor

No but Israel is not the aggressor when it attacks a country that has been firing rockets at for years, nor the country that’s been funding those attacks - and the proof of that is why else would Iran insist that Israel had to stop fighting Hezbollah in Lebanon as part of the ceasefire between Iran, the US and Israel!

Emilesgran · 29/04/2026 10:22

Boolabus · 29/04/2026 09:09

Who are you talking about here?

What is the agenda of those deflecting from the thread title of the death penalty for Palestinian detainees in Israel and the horrific reports of their rape and abuse? I'm quite concerned about people's need to do that.

I’m concerned that nobody seems interested in Hamas raping Palestinian women and children.
But nonsense claims about training dogs to rape are propagated by people in authority like Francesca Albanese.

It’s so blatant.

Emilesgran · 29/04/2026 10:27

Stirabout · 29/04/2026 09:16

this has been the pro Israeli modus operandi on these threads for years now
They don’t like discussing Israeli atrocities

Says the poster who then unironically goes on to quote … an Israeli source for claims of Israeli atrocities.

Meanwhile Hamas bears people to death in public for daring to criticise Hamas in any way - there are no Palestinian sources mentioning that, for obvious reasons.

Martymcfly24 · 29/04/2026 10:45

@Emilesgran Hamas have committed the most terrible atrocities . They should be widely condemned. Rape, murder, torture etc.

The IDF have also committed the most terrible atrocities, murder, torture rape etc. They should also be widely condemned.