Let's face it Iran is indiscriminatly hitting Israeli civilians targets including schools using cluster bombs.....

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Iran is firing missiles into heavily populated Israeli towns and have abandoned the pretence of targeting anything military.....this is just pure terrorism and does make you think what would happen if Iran did manage to develop a nuclear weapon.

Just hoping more of the missile launch sites can be taken out and this terrorist regime falls.

Earlier today he said

“To be honest with you, my favourite thing is to take the oil in Iran but some stupid people back in the US say: ‘why are you doing that?’ But they’re stupid people.”

A million people displaced. It's like the same playbook as Gaza repeated again.

It is not

It's about war and civilians getting caught up in it, from all sides.

on a similar topic

https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2026/03/26/us-iran-mines-israel-village-missile-munitions-weapons-war-conflict/

But it's not just 47 years of brutality. Prior to that the Iranians were under the Shah, who also led a brutal, despotic regime. And the reason why the Shah ruled Iran was that the US (with UK support) deposed the elected secular Government before him due to the fact they nationalised the oil industry, and massively reduced US profits. So nothing can be seen in a vacuum, and actions have very long term consequences.

And this is a general issue with US actions. The don't like governments who actually want to use their natural resources to help their own population, instead of allowing the US to steal it or run their country somehow. I wonder why they didn't like Maduro much...
Of course, this current war was all about freeing the poor Iranian women though right and nothing to do with US interests, Israeli 'interests', or the Epstein files.

Don't know about "Expert opinion" seems very divided.

But on Evil Deeds, yes Israel knows how to do these but to somehow paint themselves as the victims in all of this....

After watching a Sky news piece on the blowing up of 4 Lebanon teenage girls, killing the youngest, severely injuring the remaining 3, mother terribly injured too, noon now, they deserve everything they get now.

All because their nephews father once worked for Hezbollah but gave that up as they stopped paying him, so he went back to sheep farming.

Netanyahu is a murderer and if there is any justice in this world, he should be the one tried for terrorism though of course would escape the new death penalty "law"... thats just for Palestinians....

Israel should now be classed as Terrorist state and heavily sanctioned, similar to Russia.

Expert opinion is largely unanimous on the matter of Iran being a major sponsor of international terrorism, although the exact extent and rank is of course very difficult to be certain about.

But this is a thread about Iran's misdeeds I thought? And yet here you are, again, posting about Israel's misdeeds. Fine. Its the internet. You're free to speak as you wish etc.

I'm just sometimes left with the impression that out of Israel and Iran, people feel Israel is the larger problem, and is that the reason these threads always devolve into this?

Do you feel Israel is a larger international problem than Iran is?

Yes 100%, are you blind to the issues facing the UK and the wider global economies? our pensions, food supplies... the impacts on the developing world, esp with lack of fertilizers and the forth coming planting season, which in turn will impact the UK too.

Then there are the civilian deaths

All caused by the Israelis, manipulating Trump.

Iran posed a regional threat.

Any thread that has in its title Iran and Israel invites comment about both countries....

Yet here you are, being the Thread Police, because some posters show Israel to be the real culprits here.

Wow that's actually much clearer than I was expecting, thankyou.

Despite the Commons report I posted about the threat in the UK, despite the unrest formented and the direct deaths all across the ME by Iran and it's proxies since 1979, despite the absolute raving lunatic in the White House with his numerous military 'special operations' all over the globe, you see Israel as the real culprits here.

I've been on here long enough to suspect you're not the only one who feels this way. It's still shocking to hear it laid out so barely like this.

That's enough for me on here today.

@dairydebris many people on the left support places like Iran . Tony Blaire actually wrote about the strange releroknsip between the left and the Islamists yesterday I believe

The poster did not say they supported Iran did they? They just outlined who they feel is the bigger current threat globally, which, given the economic and fuel crisis that we are all likely going to be plunged into, due to an illegal war by Israel and the US, I don't think it is a particularly controversial view and it is one that is shared by many both left, right and centrist (apart from this strange corner of mn).

Yesterday Israel's parliament has approved a law that would make the death penalty the default sentence for Palestinians convicted of deadly terror attacks.

The bill stipulates that Palestinians convicted in Israeli military courts of carrying out deadly attacks deemed to be "acts of terrorism" would be executed by hanging within 90 days, with a possible postponement of up to 180 days.

They are not that different to some of their neigbours.

It’s not a strange corner of mn, well maybe not for the reason you’re thinking anyway.

This also overlooks the Iranians who want the IRGC gone for obvious reasons.

Very good, apart from i never or have ever said i support Iran, infact i cannot think of anyone who supports Iran.

Though those on right (Badenoch and Farage) wanted UK planes bombing... very quickly rolled that back....

The question was who is the larger international problem....

Of the two, its very clearly Israel, they have turned a regional issue into a world global economic threat, worse than anything we have ever witnessed unless peace breaks out very quickly.

The IRGC is just a red herring, used by some to justify Israeli actions, i'm sure the Iranians bombed and now threatened with no power, no water, no food will be thanking the Israelis for causing all of this.

This also overlooks the Iranians who want the IRGC gone for obvious reasons.

I doesn't, because the war is very unlikely to address that

I hope they prove you incorrect on this, it’s a shame they get overlooked and there’s no ground swell in their favour.

Interesting that you feel that comment directly relates to yourself...

Was it regional if we foiled twenty attacks on UK soil from ...Iran ??

Lol! of course it was... does it make you sound clever.... "interesting" ?

So tell me, if these 20 attacks were so terrible, why aren't we bombing Iran? what were these attacks?
Terrorism legislation covers many things now, perhaps the Iranians were conspiring to hold up a poster?

Don’t forget that an 8 yr old alleged to have thrown rocks is charged with and convicted of terrorism in these same military courts regardless of whether there is any evidence that a single rock was thrown in the general direction of an Israeli settler, settlement, checkpoint, vehicle, etc.

The use of military courts to try civilians is also illegal under international law.

Just because soneone 'feels' that Israel (no terrorist threats in the UK) is a bigger global threat than Iran (over 20 terrorist plots foiled in the UK in past year) doesn't mean its true. Counter terrorism in the UK and in other European countries and the US know more than any of us do. They label Iran a global threat for a reason. We just don't have access to all information eg the last terrorist plot by Iran, details were held secret until the recent trial, where suspects were found guilty and jailed. We are all ignorant to so much.

I know a person who previously worked in Counter terrorism, he says Iran should rightly be feared. "Feels like" isn't evidence and no one serious would listen to that, facts matter.

Can you say who you think on these threads supports Iran?

Perhaps because we tend not to bomb threats now. The US still does though. Doesn't mean they aren't a threat. Dont you believe 20 terror plots were prevented by counter terrorism?

There is lots of information online that discusses the threat from Iran not tic toc etc but MI5, counter terrorism, the government documents etc.

https://www.mi5.gov.uk/director-general-sir-ken-mccallum-gives-threat-update

"Terrorism breeds in squalid corners of the internet where poisonous ideologies, of whatever sort, meet volatile, often chaotic individual lives.

The online environment can blur motive, too. Some situations are clear-cut. But it’s often messier. In 2025 it can be hard to tell in the immediate aftermath of an appalling violent crime whether the incident is terrorist or state-directed, and thus a national security matter, or non-ideological, driven by a unique personal grievance, fixation or mental disturbance.

We are particularly conscious of these complexities when it comes to vulnerable young people.

Sadly, we continue to see a concerning number of minors in our national security investigations: one in five of the 232 terrorism arrests last year were of children under 17."

Vulnerable young people look at the mess on Tic tok etc and might be exploited to join up against those awful white colonisers and imperialist.... seen the growing use of white colonisers and Gaza blurred and imperialist,
ignoring actual facts...

A fair chunk of that speech was dedicated to Russia, its use of proxies and its wide ranging tactics (including cyber).