Are people still rejoicing about Iran?

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When Israel and the US took out Khamenei there was a thread on how great it was. Some of us expressed that it may not end well, given how forced regime change went previously in many countries. We were told to stop "leftsplaining" to Iranians. How do those people think it's going so far?

Iranians say they fear Iran being turned into another Iraq.And why wouldn't they? Given US track record? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/14/anti-regime-iranians-turn-on-trump-us

Why change your username for threads on conflict in the ME? People normally name change for subjects they feel are embarrassing or could be “outing” re their identity.

I don’t change mine because I stand by my beliefs. Though do then get “accused” of posting too much in these boards. I suppose I could appear to post less by changing my username regularly but that sounds a bit pathetic really.

Iranians have a wide range of views as they are a country of 90M people.

Some support the war, some don’t. I’m sure the reality of war (even for those that called for US intervention) is hard to endure.

I don't change my name specifically for any board. Every few weeks or months I choose a new name and use that everywhere until I change it again. It's for privacy in real life.

But can you see that when you keep changing your username especially for posts on contentious topics such as "Conflict in the Middle East" that other regular posters from both sides of the debate will question what your motives truly are and whether you are posting in good faith.

Your claim that this is for "privacy" reasons appears to be weak when the vast vast majority of posters never change their username and to be honest it reminds me of masked protesters claiming it's to prevent them getting COVID!

If you have reservations about this stupid, world destroying war you must be:
An evil supporter of the regime. Don't you care about women? I do.
Did you speak out in January? I will go through your previous posts to check. What, you changed your username? How devious.
The attack on the school was carrried out by Iran
Ok, it was an accident
Ok, it was carried out by the US.
Ok, but it was Iran's fault really
Ok, but these things happen in war. Can't be helped. War is hard.

Strawmen over and over. Most posters can see past these.

I don’t really understand the “privacy” argument as don’t see how our real identities can be revealed from our opinions as expressed on MN re conflict in the ME.

On other threads maybe if we are talking about our children’s schools or our houses for sale or other personal stuff.

Where people divulge personal stuff on these threads it’s understandable. But where they are just engaging in debates I suspect the motives are different.

I worry about people talking about how they’re happy that Khamenei is dead and that the regime was bad ——- do they not know that the regime is still in place and that a new Khamenei is in charge? Nothing has effectively changed. The old Khamenei was 86 so they’ve sped up the process by a couple of years!

I perhaps get irrationally irritated at hopeful people telling me off for not being as optimistic as them. Some people are young and didn’t live through the Iraq war but older people have no excuse not to see this idiocy for what it clearly is.

The US were surprised the Iranians didn’t just cave into their demands like in Venezuela and also that they would cause havoc with the strait of Hormuz???!!! This is even worse planning than Iraq with even more incompetent leaders.

Not to mention Trump just recently insulted Starmer and said he wasn’t welcome to join a war already won. Previously he’d been threatening to take Greenland. Now he wants NATO to help sort out his mess?

Well you are free to suspect what you like, of course. I change my name regularly because I give away personal information on a lot of threads, serious and trivial ones. I like being able to have a moan about family, work, school etc without people putting a few posts together and recognising me. It's common enough.

Trump's begging China to defend the Strait now. They won't play ball.
He was warned about the significance of the Strait, but.decided not to listen because he wanted to play video games.

Yup, they really did think it was some sort of Call of Duty, Battlefield video game, except for there's no "retry" when you fail in real life.

Egocentric Trump is facing the consequences of allowing his ego to be stroked by Bibi Netanyahu (who the Wall Street Journal reported was advised by Lindsay Graham on how to flatter/lobby Trump).

Graham apparently played word games with Trump where:
"I say Franklin Roosevelt, what do you say?" the Republican Senator from South Carolina asked. The Correct answer: "You have nothing to fear but fear itself"

China won't help, this is to their benefit, America is depleting it's military resources so it will not be able to confront China for a longer time now. Chinese ships (denominated in Yuan) are freely passing through the Strait. The economic bomb and political fallout from this is going to be historic.

the economic bomb and political fallout from this is going to be historic

Indeed. And I suspect in years to come schools kids will be encouraged to debate if the slaughter carried out by Israel in Gaza gave the green light for this war. The world sat and watched what Israel did to the Palestinians (which was unforgivable), because they felt it wouldn’t really affect anyone else. But did it embolden Netanyahu to think he could literally do anything he liked? Now of course there are consequences for us all. I would say it was entirely predictable.

I feel the same way

listening to a podcast earlier with interesting thoughts. Trump naively thought the regime would topple within a few days. Clearly that has not happened and shows no signs of happening. No way will trump want to stop without a clear “win” so now he has no choice other than to carry on and finish what he’s started

I have huge sympathy for Iranians but it’s not our problem to fix.

I read a very touching post on X today, from an Iranian civilian, using an unstable VPN to communicate with the outside world as all internal internet access has been shut down.
He/she made it very clear that Iranian civilians are still optimistic. They very much see the situation as a rescue effort, not a war. And they firmly place the blame for every single civilian death on the regime.

It’s not really for outsiders to judge, is it? The only people qualified to decide if this intervention is a good thing or not are those directly affected. If you want it straight from the horse’s mouth, here’s the link:

https://x.com/itsdecado/status/2033381939055309212?s=46&t=FiIL7aGotDu-poEx5VL-MQ

Yes, but there are also civilians calling for an end to the war. Plenty on X and in the media, including Naznin Zaghari- Ratliffe.

Which Iraq war should I remember? The Iran Iraq war.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_War
The one after Iraq invaded Kuwait?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_invasion_of_Kuwait
The one after 9/11?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War

The 2003 one. I guess you could say the other two which were started by Saddam Hussein were also poorly planned but given I was talking about the US I thought it was clear.

I wonder if school kids will be encouraged to also completely absolve Hamas for any blame at all for the devastation in Gaza? Or will it just be straight up blame the Israelis for absolutely everything- like you just did? No blame for Hamas for Gaza. No blame for the US for this war. No blame for Iran for its support for terrorism and abuse of its citizens. In your future world all of that will be forgotten and only Israel will be to blame? I hope not, because that sounds awfully familiar doesn't it?

Of course, wrt all other conflicts in the MENA region, nothing to see here, business as usual.

Interesting x-link @KitKatKrums
Are Germany really closing IRGC funded institutes?
Was one of the hamasniks manhandling Naama Levy speaking Persian?
Did the regime that deliberately shot womens' eyes out for protesting offer to treat Hezbollah operatives whose eyes had been injured by exploding pagers?
Interesting times indeed. I hope Persians find the strength and support to rebuild their country and send the IRGC to hell.

Trump is not even asking the European countries to help scort tankers and find mines, he is threarening, yet again, the future of NATO. Apparently, he can talk in any way he wishes to, call our country and army and PM whatever he wants and still demand we jump when he says so or the future of NATO will be bad!!!!!
This is the man who has already killed NATO as we knew it. Canada and Europe will help each other, but US will not move a finger for us, so why should we for US? Look at the economic mess we are heading into. US has huge reserves of their own oil in their own soil.
US will profit, they have their own oil plus Venezuela. Putin will profit, meaning Ukraine and Europe's safety is severely affected. Asia and Europe will suffer.
I think we are already sending mine finding devices. Good. At the end of the day, we need the oil. But to be bullied into it....
I hope we join France and Europe on the negotiations regarding the strait.
Trump is just bullying his way through all of it. And it is working for him, for the time being...

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2026/03/16/extra-100000-britons-out-of-work-within-months/
The US will survive. We won't.
Posting a Torygraph link to avoid shouts of leftist bias.

I couldn’t agree with you more. I think the Israeli government are the world’s greatest terrorists, and I don’t understand how the world sat back while they were, and still are, massacring thousands of Palestinians. I also don’t understand how anyone in the US can still be supporting trump.

Weaker Europe= stronger US dollar.
Maybe he can try for Greenland again, before the half term elections. Or even Canada!
To be honest, if we are going down, and we are facing a depression, I would rather go down saying to Trump what we actually think of him and stop the pandering around. He may even show a bit of respect.

Awful isn't it. Everyone needs to unite against terrorism and the funding and this dreadful regime.

Hoping the Iranian people will regain their country and they all prosper.

The “new Khamenei“ is allegedly in a coma (if still alive) and hasn’t been seen publicly since the February 28th strike.