Are people still rejoicing about Iran?

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When Israel and the US took out Khamenei there was a thread on how great it was. Some of us expressed that it may not end well, given how forced regime change went previously in many countries. We were told to stop "leftsplaining" to Iranians. How do those people think it's going so far?

According to Trump, all those targets have been met, apart from Hezbollah and the Houthi.

With the Houthi, when was the last time they attacked a ship ? Was their capability not destroyed ?

Hezbollah. How on earth does Iran manage to export arms to them ? A thousand miles, via the Suez canal ? Or do they go the long way round ?

Yup, she is most probably used to guests who agree with her uncritically. She did manage to read all her propaganda cards out though.

The problem is that as the Professor said the propaganda no longer works.

The world has seen MSM journalists act like stenographers and uncritically repeat easily debunked lies and increasingly no longer believe them.

The contempt he displayed towards her was likely meant for the audience to let them know that they're being lied to.

Iran really doesn't export weapons to either much anymore.

Both are self sufficient and can build their own weapons "in-house".

It's why the IDF is currently suffering casualties inflicted by Hezbollah in Lebanon.

The intelligence "said" that with Jolani controlling Syria, Hezbollah no longer had a land bridge to receive weapons from Iran and were weak. It was wrong.

It’s really not that surprising sadly that there are more people like him out there who will be supporting him. There were plenty of people who supported the likes of Hitler and Stalin, so that’s nothing new.
Have you got any credible sources for your claim that the 30,000 killed protesters are just a lie/propaganda?

So you believe his lines?

What do you think of the raping of nurses who provided cared for protestors?, for example.

Have you got any proof that the 30'000 number is true? Who are they? Which cities.

The Iranian government published a list of the 3000 names of the people who were killed (including security personnel).

In the nearly 3 weeks since this latest aggression approximately 1500 Iranians have been killed and that's with daily bombing. It the 2+ years of Gaza 70'000 have been killed and that with bombing and starvation.

That it's been promoted by many of the same voices that repeated the "40 beheaded babies" lie, also calls into question it's credibility.

Why were the 3000 killed and why would anyone support it?

Where would I have proof from, apart from what’s been officially reported?
There are different numbers circulating at the moment, it’s difficult to get accurate data during an internet blackout.
How do you know 30,000 is propaganda though? Which numbers do you believe, the ones provided by the Iranian regime? Why do you choose to believe them?

Officially reported by who?

The 30'000 figure is the current (last month they attempted to say 80'000 but quickly revised it) number being promoted by the Iranian opposition.

They have a vested interest in increasing the figure to justify ongoing intervention.

The claims are unverified and largely circulated via Iran International allegedly a Saudi funded London based outfit:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/31/concern-over-uk-based-iranian-tv-channels-links-to-saudi-arabia

It not necessary that I believe the "regime" figure of 3000 killed (including 300 security personnel). However Iranians in Iran covered these protests showing video of the protestors were doing, such as killing 3 year old Melina and attacking Iranians that were simply walking down the street.

Even HRANA a US based Iranian outfit cite a much lower number.

I don’t think what you’re consuming online is helping. And I notice you’ve skipped over the question on the nurses gang rape.

The best bet would be to join the EU, Sweden, Canada, Saudi Arabia and others and proscribe the IRGC so their propaganda can’t be amplified on SM.

My consumption is perfect, as am I.

I'm extremely well informed. It's why I don't need to ask the same questions over and over again.......

I will stick to my Ivy league, Westpoint, International scholars, Published authors, Ex and current intelligence agents, actuql informed journalists and most importantly civilians in the region.

Eastern let's not engage anymore.

Reported by the media here in the UK. As I said, there are different numbers in circulation right now, yet you called the 30,000 claim propaganda and lies in your pp. Why?

Everyone is well informed.

I still hope Labour get a move on with proscription.

Still unverified, as even Grok which isn't exactly pro Iranian stated (taking into account the limitations of AI).

The media also reported the 40 beheaded babies, the Iraqis pulling babies out of incubators and one of the most heinous Weapons of Mass destruction, they are not infallible.

But let's agree to disagree, you believe the 30'000, I don't. History will prove one of us correct.

As for asking questions there’s no answer. That is concerning, you can see the guy on Times Radio wouldn’t even consider those crimes.

That is not something I want to encourage. It looks like comparable countries feel the same.

According to the UN, they have to invade your territory or, in some limited circumstances, be deemed to breach international peace.

Pretty clear that you're not supposed to attack a country just because you don't like it.

Segue: but interesting that the daughters of the regime leaders are doctors or professors in the U.S.

This isn't a defence of the regime. I guess one rule for their daughters, another for ordinary Iranian women.

Iran had attacked Israel through their proxies, Hamas & Hezbollah.

So deal with the proxies. It's not as if Iran can ship missiles 1000 miles to them.

Israel has been dealing with the proxies in Gaza and in Lebanon, which people also criticised as illegal invasions.

They have? In Lebanon. The Lebanese don’t want the proxies there either.

Have they won yet ?

Can you see the issue for Lebanon now, when only a minute ago you were asking that the proxies be dealt with.

Just looking for an answer. Has Isreal defeated Hamas and Hezbollah ?

Well, they are killing a classroom of Lebanese kids daily in their pursuit.