Protests in Iran increase

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I’m not sure what’s motivating those posts. I agree with you.

And that's 'official' executions not including murders and beatings, 'disappearances' and deaths in custody. 1000s of political prisoners (ie not criminals) murdered in 1988 in a huge round up. Noone knows how many but some estimates are over 20,000

Its bugger all to do with people on the outside telling Iranians what to do. Listen to what Iranians are saying. They are vocal and articulate despite relentless repression.

Are you still bashing on about Palestine on this thread about protests in Iran!

Have you anything to add about the slaughtered protesters, the ones locked up waiting to see if they are executed. Quite a possibility, given that Iran executed more of its citizens than any other country. That's a pretty awful statistic on its own.

It's an appalling regime. The number of executions alone are worthy of condemnation.

If these posts are coming from representatives of the Iranian regime they are doing a very bad job of presenting a convincing argument.

I wasn't referring to your comments. My apologies if you thought I was.

I was referring to posters who believe the west is not correctly portraying how awful it is living under the regime and what it has done and is doing to its people. The posts suggesting Iranian voices aren't calling out for change ....its all the meddling west....

Yes. The known facts about this brutal repressive regime make it impossible to believe the posts made by the pro Iranian regime poster on here - particularly offensive, given the bravery needed in such a brutal situation, is the suggestion that protesting Iranians are puppets.

Sorry I mean the same as you, I’m finding the pp posts a hard read.

So am I. I'm remaining polite and not sure if they are naive, goading for a reaction or actually do support the regime which executed more people than any other country does for all manner of reasons. Extremely cruel to their people. That's without the funding if terrorists to allow slaughter in various other countries.

I'm feeling inclined to ignore.

No idea why they are being so offensive.

We can all draw our own conclusions…

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You dont know what gaslighting means do you?

It isn't so much being pro Iranian regime, it is more that no one who cares about Iranians is going to be advocating bombing them or a regime change, because nothing good ever comes of doing either of those two things. Look it up in history.

What did Pahlavi say? "Casualties of war are inevitable"? I don't agree.

No one in Iran is giving the media this information and none of you have contacts with anyone official, so where is this info coming from?

You are a tough crowd though, I will give you that!

I wanted to hear OP's testimonies.

Enough of this blatant nonsense now.

Noone here believes you have any interest in the testimony of those who have suffered under this barbaric regime whose crimes are recognisrd by every reputable human rights organisation in the world

Making up negative qualities for someone online whose posts have not indicated those qualities is in fact gaslighting.

Why do you think you can speak for everyone here?
Are you a part of a group and other members of your group are here?

Be aware that there is no legal basis for the US or anyone else to invade Iran on any basis at all at the moment. There have been no motions or votes at the UN supporting what you (all) are saying. So I am not sure on what basis you are making your assertions.

(Also, i am getting lots of "thanks" on my posts so some people agree with me)

I realise this and have decided not to interact further. I don't feel the poster is actually interested in my friends experiences at all.

Thinking of the people stuck in Iran in prison or grieving loved ones and the many people who had to flee the regime watching and listening for scant news of friends and family 🤗

Absolutely agree.

I haven't even bothered engaging with this poster since they don't appear to have the best interests of Iranians genuinely in mind.

Why her testimonies precisely? you sound like you are goading her.

Nobody is minimising their fear. Of course it is genuine if they are from prominent families who supported the previous Shah or if they are still politically active in opposing the current regime. It happened in Iraq to supporters of Abdul Karim Qasim when he was overthrown by the Baathists and then it happened to Baathists when they fell. It happened in Libya to supporters of Gaddafi. It even happened to James II and his supporters after the Glorious Revolution. I would guess, and this is purely from reading your comments, that they would support the reinstatement of the Shah no matter what his political leanings. The question is though, is what the majority of Iranians want? If there is a massive second wave on the 17th February as is expected and the US intervene to help resulting in the overthrow of the current regime, then install Pahlavi as monarch against the wishes of the majority of Iranians, that would be a puppet dictator who would only be able to hang on to power by ruling with an iron fist supported by the US, as his father did. On the other hand, the average Iranian in Iran may be happy to see the reinstatement of the monarchy but personally, I doubt it.