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inamarina · 14/01/2026 17:24

NLJansa · 14/01/2026 17:14

For the past several years, a particular user has been posting thinly veiled antisemitic conspiracy theories, along with links to blatantly antisemitic and pro-terrorist social media accounts, websites, and videos.

They have consistently defended violent and oppressive governments — China, Russia, Venezuela, Syria, Gaza, and now Iran. Apparently every authoritarian regime on the planet is misunderstood and actually a great leader, unless they happen to be Israeli. They have posted long articles meticulously documenting the death toll in Gaza while denying or downplaying the death toll in Iran; they berate others for not calling Gaza a genocide while simultaneously denying the genocide of the Uyghurs. Now they have arrived in this thread to wave the flag of the Khamenei regime while thousands are being killed by it as they type. It is depressing, but not surprising.

What is surprising is that @MNHQ has allowed this to continue for so long.

Despite numerous reports, and despite the fact that some of this user’s more egregious posts are occasionally deleted, the user remains. Meanwhile, others have been banned for far less, or have left entirely due to the hostility and hatred generated by posters like this.

Actually, scratch that — I’m not surprised at all. I know exactly why this is tolerated. It drives engagement. Controversy keeps people clicking. While users on a forum that was originally aimed at mothers are reading and responding to posts defending regimes that violently oppress women, they are also being served adverts for Boden and Disneyland. Perhaps this user is even a premium member — and we wouldn’t want a tiny little independent forum like MN to lose that money, would we?

Well said.

mids2019 · 14/01/2026 17:50

https://www.iranintl.com/en/202601112602

If you thought hunger games was a terrible dystopian future it's nothing compared to Iran. This was and is a massacre of civilians. We now await the judicial killings of those who simply voiced 'freedom".

There is great heroism in Iran from those who were willing to face death simply to protest and it is an insult to spread anti semitic conspiracy theories that somehow suggest these desperate people were somehow Israeli stooges.

I am not the biggest fan of Trump for some things but if the US can precipitate a fall of this hideous regime and prevent an orgy of executions by thr state then bring it on. The IGRC being targeted some may simply call justice.....I am one of them.

Lighting cigarette with burning Khamenei portrait becomes protest symbol

A widely shared image of a young Iranian woman using a burning portrait of Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei to light a cigarette has gone viral as a symbol of defiance in Iran’s latest protests.

https://www.iranintl.com/en/202601112602

Twiglets1 · 14/01/2026 18:23

NLJansa · 14/01/2026 17:14

For the past several years, a particular user has been posting thinly veiled antisemitic conspiracy theories, along with links to blatantly antisemitic and pro-terrorist social media accounts, websites, and videos.

They have consistently defended violent and oppressive governments — China, Russia, Venezuela, Syria, Gaza, and now Iran. Apparently every authoritarian regime on the planet is misunderstood and actually a great leader, unless they happen to be Israeli. They have posted long articles meticulously documenting the death toll in Gaza while denying or downplaying the death toll in Iran; they berate others for not calling Gaza a genocide while simultaneously denying the genocide of the Uyghurs. Now they have arrived in this thread to wave the flag of the Khamenei regime while thousands are being killed by it as they type. It is depressing, but not surprising.

What is surprising is that @MNHQ has allowed this to continue for so long.

Despite numerous reports, and despite the fact that some of this user’s more egregious posts are occasionally deleted, the user remains. Meanwhile, others have been banned for far less, or have left entirely due to the hostility and hatred generated by posters like this.

Actually, scratch that — I’m not surprised at all. I know exactly why this is tolerated. It drives engagement. Controversy keeps people clicking. While users on a forum that was originally aimed at mothers are reading and responding to posts defending regimes that violently oppress women, they are also being served adverts for Boden and Disneyland. Perhaps this user is even a premium member — and we wouldn’t want a tiny little independent forum like MN to lose that money, would we?

@MNHQ an important post

Talkinpeace · 14/01/2026 18:58

@mids2019
That photo is of a Canadian girl in a Toronto car park in 2022
she put it on her XTwitter account at the time

Ihatetomatoes · 14/01/2026 19:03

Talkinpeace · 14/01/2026 18:58

@mids2019
That photo is of a Canadian girl in a Toronto car park in 2022
she put it on her XTwitter account at the time

Its also become a symbol of support for Iran and its being shared and commented in:

"The image drew wider international attention after J.K. Rowling, the author of the Harry Potter series, shared a poster showing the woman lighting a cigarette from a half-burned portrait of Supreme Leader Ali Khamene

Rowling wrote: “If you claim to support human rights yet can’t bring yourself to show solidarity with those fighting for their liberty in Iran, you’ve revealed yourself. You don’t give a damn about people being oppressed and brutalized so long as it’s being done by the enemies of your enemies

The Europe-based outlet Nexta TV commented: “This isn’t shock value. It’s a blunt political gesture – open contempt for a regime that has spent decades controlling women’s bodies, clothing, behavior, and lives.”

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Ihatetomatoes · 14/01/2026 19:04

Very pertinent given some of the posting....

Rowling wrote: “If you claim to support human rights yet can’t bring yourself to show solidarity with those fighting for their liberty in Iran, you’ve revealed yourself. You don’t give a damn about people being oppressed and brutalized so long as it’s being done by the enemies of your enemies

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Talkinpeace · 14/01/2026 19:14

@Ihatetomatoes
I post on Xtwitter
I am well aware of Rowling's post
I have also looked at Morticia's account (the young lady in the picture)

For what its worth I was also in the 2022 video for Mahsa Amini along with JK Rowling.

Ihatetomatoes · 14/01/2026 19:17

Talkinpeace · 14/01/2026 19:14

@Ihatetomatoes
I post on Xtwitter
I am well aware of Rowling's post
I have also looked at Morticia's account (the young lady in the picture)

For what its worth I was also in the 2022 video for Mahsa Amini along with JK Rowling.

👍

Perhaps others might nit be aware why thd picture is being shared online

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ilikepotatties · 14/01/2026 19:19

NLJansa · 14/01/2026 17:14

For the past several years, a particular user has been posting thinly veiled antisemitic conspiracy theories, along with links to blatantly antisemitic and pro-terrorist social media accounts, websites, and videos.

They have consistently defended violent and oppressive governments — China, Russia, Venezuela, Syria, Gaza, and now Iran. Apparently every authoritarian regime on the planet is misunderstood and actually a great leader, unless they happen to be Israeli. They have posted long articles meticulously documenting the death toll in Gaza while denying or downplaying the death toll in Iran; they berate others for not calling Gaza a genocide while simultaneously denying the genocide of the Uyghurs. Now they have arrived in this thread to wave the flag of the Khamenei regime while thousands are being killed by it as they type. It is depressing, but not surprising.

What is surprising is that @MNHQ has allowed this to continue for so long.

Despite numerous reports, and despite the fact that some of this user’s more egregious posts are occasionally deleted, the user remains. Meanwhile, others have been banned for far less, or have left entirely due to the hostility and hatred generated by posters like this.

Actually, scratch that — I’m not surprised at all. I know exactly why this is tolerated. It drives engagement. Controversy keeps people clicking. While users on a forum that was originally aimed at mothers are reading and responding to posts defending regimes that violently oppress women, they are also being served adverts for Boden and Disneyland. Perhaps this user is even a premium member — and we wouldn’t want a tiny little independent forum like MN to lose that money, would we?

I read MN threads on these subjects and have no idea who you mean. Very few people are posting about Russia anymore for a start. Who do you mean?

HappyFace2025 · 14/01/2026 19:21

ilikepotatties · 14/01/2026 19:19

I read MN threads on these subjects and have no idea who you mean. Very few people are posting about Russia anymore for a start. Who do you mean?

I also read many MN threads. I can think of a number of posters who fit the bill. And no, I won't name them publicly.

ilikepotatties · 14/01/2026 19:24

Ihatetomatoes · 14/01/2026 19:04

Very pertinent given some of the posting....

Rowling wrote: “If you claim to support human rights yet can’t bring yourself to show solidarity with those fighting for their liberty in Iran, you’ve revealed yourself. You don’t give a damn about people being oppressed and brutalized so long as it’s being done by the enemies of your enemies

Not very pertinent, as I don't think she has significant geopolitical understanding, does she?

keepeofthesevenkeys · 14/01/2026 19:25

ilikepotatties · 14/01/2026 19:19

I read MN threads on these subjects and have no idea who you mean. Very few people are posting about Russia anymore for a start. Who do you mean?

I've only seen one person defending the Iranian government on this thread.

ilikepotatties · 14/01/2026 19:35

Vivi0 · 14/01/2026 15:53

Which led to the oppressive regime of the Shah and his infamous torturing by SAVAK: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAVAK which led to the revolution in 1979 and intervention today will lead to what?

Funny how you can call the Shah’s regime oppressive, but cannot bring yourself to say the same about the current regime.

Anyway, what intervention are you specifically talking about, because you suggest that the current protests themselves are foreign intervention.

I don’t believe you do care about what the people of Iran or what they want at all, because the people of Iran are out there sacrificing their own lives to protest for change, and you simply dismiss that as foreign intervention.

What does that say then?

That you believe that what the people of Iran really want is the current regime, and it is foreign agitators that want change.

So, I suppose I can answer EasternStandard’s question for you - yes, you do hope the current regime is successful post executions.

Glad we got there in the end.

As I said upthread, we don't know what the people want, because it has not been independently verified and there are two very different versions of events. To be fair, from the look of the tiktok video someone posted upthread a very large number of Iranians peacefully protested against the rioters and a very large number of people would like the US to step away. And if the US doesn't step away it takes us all one step closer to wwIII which is a relevant factor in all this. And there are more peaceful and effective ways to lobby for change than regime change.

In relation to Pahlavi and his father, here is the Shah talking on 60mins while he was still in power, I am not sure if you have seen this but in terms of historical context it is interesting and worth watching all the way through.

ilikepotatties · 14/01/2026 19:35

keepeofthesevenkeys · 14/01/2026 19:25

I've only seen one person defending the Iranian government on this thread.

Who?

ilikepotatties · 14/01/2026 19:38

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HappyFace2025 · 14/01/2026 19:44

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Addybee · 14/01/2026 19:47

BelleHathor · 14/01/2026 14:11

You're not going to win this argument right now.

There is a concerted, well funded campaign in order to effect regime change in Iran and manufacture consent for American intervention. You’re arguing with people on the same side as the War hawk Lindsay Graham and Tommy Robinson, who purport to know what Iranians want.

Iran is a country of 90 million people, however the voices being amplified are the voices of Iranians not currently in Iran.

There are also many unverified claims in the last week that amount to nothing more than misinformation. Like the woman lighting a cigarette using a burning picture of Khamenei (amplified by JK Rowling and many others) promoted by many to be in Iran. It turned out she was in a carpark in Canada.

The newest unproven claim is "12'000 killed" with this caveat:

"CBS News has not been able to independently verify the massive death toll indicated by the source"

Single unamed and unidentified source the perfect vehicle for propaganda and currently being reported by CBS, run by Bari Weiss who was hand selected by billionaire Larry Ellison, a fervent supporter of Netanyahu and Trump Donor.

https://www.972mag.com/ellisons-paramount-tiktok-israel-media-empire/

On American/Israeli involvement, former CIA director Mike Pompeo directly tweeted about "Mossad agents walking side by side" and ironically Israeli media has been open about Mossad involvement:
https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/iran-news/article-881733

What's currently hurting Iranians in Iran are the crushing sanctions that they've endured for over 40 years.

Are you Iranian?

I am. My parents lived under this regime and so did I. This isn’t something I picked up from Western media or politicians.

Iranians have been resisting this regime for decades, long before social media or US war hawks suddenly took an interest. The fact that outside actors try to exploit what’s happening doesn’t mean the struggle itself is manufactured. Oppression doesn’t become fake just because opportunists attach themselves to it.

Iran has 90 million people. The reason the diaspora voice is louder is simple. People inside Iran are silenced through internet shutdowns, prison, torture and worse. Expecting perfectly verifiable reporting from a closed authoritarian state is an impossible standard that only ever benefits the regime.

Of course misinformation exists, it does everywhere. A few false or mislabelled clips don’t cancel out the reality of what’s happening on the ground. The lack of “independently verified” numbers also doesn’t mean mass violence isn’t happening, especially when doctors and families inside Iran are risking their lives to say the real figures are much higher- I personally have heard of 3 people close to us who have been killed.

Sanctions have absolutely hurt ordinary Iranians and many of us have criticised them for years. But sanctions didn’t create this regime or its brutality. The repression, corruption and violence came first and are the reason people are protesting.

This isn’t about American or Israeli intervention. It’s about people who have been asking for basic dignity and freedom for decades and are exhausted of being dismissed as propaganda

Vivi0 · 14/01/2026 19:49

Your posts were gaslighting and trollhunting ie unacceptable.

Gaslighting? Where? Please quote me where I was gaslighting.

Also, I said I didn’t think you were posting in good faith, because I don’t believe your posts re stats were in good faith at all.

I still don’t.

But I certainly don’t think you are a troll.

Does that clear that up for you?

ilikepotatties · 14/01/2026 19:51

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Can you quote one single thing I have said which is gaslighting?

ilikepotatties · 14/01/2026 19:52

Vivi0 · 14/01/2026 19:49

Your posts were gaslighting and trollhunting ie unacceptable.

Gaslighting? Where? Please quote me where I was gaslighting.

Also, I said I didn’t think you were posting in good faith, because I don’t believe your posts re stats were in good faith at all.

I still don’t.

But I certainly don’t think you are a troll.

Does that clear that up for you?

No not really - you are just moving goal posts now. If someone says "I am posting in good faith" and the response is "you are not posting in good faith" the response is gaslighting. And troll hunting.

ilikepotatties · 14/01/2026 19:54

Addybee · 14/01/2026 19:47

Are you Iranian?

I am. My parents lived under this regime and so did I. This isn’t something I picked up from Western media or politicians.

Iranians have been resisting this regime for decades, long before social media or US war hawks suddenly took an interest. The fact that outside actors try to exploit what’s happening doesn’t mean the struggle itself is manufactured. Oppression doesn’t become fake just because opportunists attach themselves to it.

Iran has 90 million people. The reason the diaspora voice is louder is simple. People inside Iran are silenced through internet shutdowns, prison, torture and worse. Expecting perfectly verifiable reporting from a closed authoritarian state is an impossible standard that only ever benefits the regime.

Of course misinformation exists, it does everywhere. A few false or mislabelled clips don’t cancel out the reality of what’s happening on the ground. The lack of “independently verified” numbers also doesn’t mean mass violence isn’t happening, especially when doctors and families inside Iran are risking their lives to say the real figures are much higher- I personally have heard of 3 people close to us who have been killed.

Sanctions have absolutely hurt ordinary Iranians and many of us have criticised them for years. But sanctions didn’t create this regime or its brutality. The repression, corruption and violence came first and are the reason people are protesting.

This isn’t about American or Israeli intervention. It’s about people who have been asking for basic dignity and freedom for decades and are exhausted of being dismissed as propaganda

In relation to your final paragraph, yes it is about US intervention now. Speaking hypothetically, would you want Israel/the US to control and manage Iran? Would you want US and Israeli soldiers there? Do you want Pahlavi to be put into power by the US, do you want Lindsey Graham to manage regime change?

ilikepotatties · 14/01/2026 20:00

Vivi0 · 14/01/2026 14:22

Just keep scrolling down the page.

It’s not difficult.

Scrolling down what page? You quoted text from another poster but neither of you included anything which said where it was from. "It's not difficult" is rude.

ilikepotatties · 14/01/2026 20:02

ilikepotatties · 14/01/2026 19:54

In relation to your final paragraph, yes it is about US intervention now. Speaking hypothetically, would you want Israel/the US to control and manage Iran? Would you want US and Israeli soldiers there? Do you want Pahlavi to be put into power by the US, do you want Lindsey Graham to manage regime change?

Edited

@addybee These are all genuine questions by the way, I am not being at all facetious and I am interested to hear all views of Iranians. I am from the UK and of Jewish heritage, I am not Muslim and not from Iran.

Addybee · 14/01/2026 20:03

ilikepotatties · 14/01/2026 19:54

In relation to your final paragraph, yes it is about US intervention now. Speaking hypothetically, would you want Israel/the US to control and manage Iran? Would you want US and Israeli soldiers there? Do you want Pahlavi to be put into power by the US, do you want Lindsey Graham to manage regime change?

Edited

Its not about what I want or what any of the people outside of iran want, we are simply trying to amplify their voices, and majority right now will take Pahlavi/israel over the current islamic dictatorship they have, does that not speak volumes?