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4 countries to boycott Eurovision due to Israel’s continued inclusion

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Everexpanding · 04/12/2025 19:18

In a statement released on Thursday afternoon, the Dutch broadcaster Avrotros said it would also withdraw from next year’s contest. “After weighing all perspectives, Avrotros concludes that, under the current circumstances, participation cannot be reconciled with the public values that are fundamental to our organisation.”

The Slovenian national broadcaster, RTVSLO – the first to threaten a boycott this summer – said participation “would conflict with its values of peace, equality and respect”.

Spain’s culture minister, Ernest Urtasun, backed the decision, adding: “You can’t whitewash Israel given the genocide in Gaza. Culture should be on the side of peace and justice. I’m proud of an RTVE that puts human rights before any economic interest

RTÉ feels that Ireland’s participation remains unconscionable given the appalling loss of lives in Gaza and the humanitarian crisis there which continues to put the lives of so many civilians at risk,” the broadcaster said in a statement.

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2025/dec/04/ireland-spain-and-the-netherlands-to-boycott-eurovision-2026-as-israel-cleared-to-compete

Four countries to boycott Eurovision 2026 as Israel cleared to compete

Ireland, Spain, Slovenia and the Netherlands pull out after decision not to hold vote on Israel’s participation

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2025/dec/04/ireland-spain-and-the-netherlands-to-boycott-eurovision-2026-as-israel-cleared-to-compete

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SharonEllis · 04/12/2025 20:35

thingsarelookingupfornigel · 04/12/2025 20:31

Oh, why? More disgraceful than comparing Benjamin to Pol Pot? You live in a funny world.

No idea what you're talking about.

thingsarelookingupfornigel · 04/12/2025 20:36

SharonEllis · 04/12/2025 20:35

No idea what you're talking about.

Back to the history books then eh??

Suednymph · 04/12/2025 20:37

Martymcfly24 · 04/12/2025 20:15

So they waited and competed against them for 50 years just so when Israel started murdering tens of thousands of civilians they could "break cover" and try get them banned to be antisemitic.

Right.

Edited

We Irish are good at waiting before a pounce. We once waited 800 years for something in fact ;)

CrossChecking · 04/12/2025 20:37

Martymcfly24 · 04/12/2025 20:32

Why are you acting like this is a new information gotcha.
It is talked about extensively in Ireland , something that's disgusts people.

Is it worse than murdering 20000 children in two years, I wouldn't think so personally.

Yes and there is a reparations scheme to acknowledge the trauma and mistreatment of the women and babies in these institutions. A little bit different from Israel refusing to even acknowledge that killing 20000 children and starving a civillian population is wrong.

SharonEllis · 04/12/2025 20:38

Hortesne · 04/12/2025 20:34

Sanctions may have had some effect on apartheid but the economy there blew apart much earlier when it couldn't service its debts. That led to disinvestment then further precarity which in turn galvanised the agents who were already working for social change. But the big economic effect kick was politically neutral - it didn't make sense to lend them any more money because they were obviously fucking it all up. And those decisions happened way before any boycotts.

Yes the effect of the boycott at the time was certainly exaggerated. It was as much a reflection of SA's situation as the driver for it. However morally virtous it made us feel at the time.

Hortesne · 04/12/2025 20:38

Maybe Ireland should have been kicked out of Eurovision during the 60s and 70s when it was putting babies in sewers. Of course we'd have to have known about it but imagine - a world without Dana! All kinds of everything, indeed.

SharonEllis · 04/12/2025 20:39

thingsarelookingupfornigel · 04/12/2025 20:36

Back to the history books then eh??

Still no idea. If you have a point, why not just make it?

Hollyhobbi · 04/12/2025 20:39

Chicaontour · 04/12/2025 20:18

Very proud of Ireland for standing against genocide. First European country to ban apartheid Sputh African products in the 80s. Israel should br treated as the pariah state it is.

Yes, I remember the Dunnes Stores workers standing outside in the cold and rain as I was a student in Dublin at the time. I delighted we are standing up to genocide.

MissyB1 · 04/12/2025 20:40

SharonEllis · 04/12/2025 19:52

There is no genocide. Racists stamping their feet and throwing their toys out of the pram.

Aaah so disagreeing with Israel murdering innocent kids, blowing the limbs off other kids, targeting civilians trying to shelter in flimsy tents and burning them to death, is just racist?
You got that folks? We must celebrate Israel killing over 60,000 civilians or we are all racists!

25milesfromhome · 04/12/2025 20:41

Everexpanding · 04/12/2025 20:33

The word clutching comes to mind

It certainly does.

SharonEllis · 04/12/2025 20:41

MissyB1 · 04/12/2025 20:40

Aaah so disagreeing with Israel murdering innocent kids, blowing the limbs off other kids, targeting civilians trying to shelter in flimsy tents and burning them to death, is just racist?
You got that folks? We must celebrate Israel killing over 60,000 civilians or we are all racists!

Nice try.

thingsarelookingupfornigel · 04/12/2025 20:42

SharonEllis · 04/12/2025 20:39

Still no idea. If you have a point, why not just make it?

How about FW DeKlrek?

CrossChecking · 04/12/2025 20:43

MissyB1 · 04/12/2025 20:40

Aaah so disagreeing with Israel murdering innocent kids, blowing the limbs off other kids, targeting civilians trying to shelter in flimsy tents and burning them to death, is just racist?
You got that folks? We must celebrate Israel killing over 60,000 civilians or we are all racists!

video high quality GIF

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Martymcfly24 · 04/12/2025 20:43

MissyB1 · 04/12/2025 20:40

Aaah so disagreeing with Israel murdering innocent kids, blowing the limbs off other kids, targeting civilians trying to shelter in flimsy tents and burning them to death, is just racist?
You got that folks? We must celebrate Israel killing over 60,000 civilians or we are all racists!

Absolutely

Tell all those grieving mothers that no one gives a shit about them and their dead children really, we just want to be racist.

SharonEllis · 04/12/2025 20:44

thingsarelookingupfornigel · 04/12/2025 20:42

How about FW DeKlrek?

What about him? Please make your point or Im not botherimg engagimg with you any further.

25milesfromhome · 04/12/2025 20:44

CrossChecking · 04/12/2025 20:33

Don't you mean it's a strange way to demonstrate their antisemitism that posters here are convinced is the reason behind the boycott?

I mean empty vessels make the most noise.

Heyhelga · 04/12/2025 20:46

Hopefully this is the beginning of the end of the Eurovision nonsense.

Morningsleepin · 04/12/2025 20:47

Chicaontour · 04/12/2025 20:18

Very proud of Ireland for standing against genocide. First European country to ban apartheid Sputh African products in the 80s. Israel should br treated as the pariah state it is.

This. Proud to be Irish

HectorPlasm · 04/12/2025 20:50

Any thing that finishes off that tired old third rate camp weirdo fest is fine by me - don't really care which side causes it

JacknDiane · 04/12/2025 21:00

SharonEllis · 04/12/2025 20:28

Yes, lets talk about the way Ireland treated babies and their mothers, for years and years, and the history of cover up and denial.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-54693159.

Really low trying to use the murder of innocent children to score points in a discussion.
Im disgusted at you @SharonEllis.

Lu2021 · 04/12/2025 21:15

Hortesne · 04/12/2025 19:59

Everything has to have a moral stance these days, even a singing show. Lucky for Spain no one was feeling so judgy about them in the 60s and 70s. Or about Slovenia in the 90s.

It’s completely valid to debate Spain’s current choices, but linking them to a time when the country lived under a dictatorship imposed in a brutally harsh way doesn’t really make sense.

Lu2021 · 04/12/2025 21:24

SharonEllis · 04/12/2025 20:04

Well quite. Spain's record on racism and colonialism is pretty spectacular, with the dubious honour of one of the earliest attempts to codify racism, persecution of Jews, Muslims and Protestants, brutal colonial conquest, genocide and slavery and then the little matter of 20th Century fascism and continued issues with racism and antisemitism in modern Spain. I'd pipe down if I was Spain.

Spain’s history is indeed complex, as with many countries, but using everything from the Inquisition to the dictatorship is quite a stretch. And implying that Spaniards somehow chose Franco’s fascism suggests a rather loose grasp of what actually happened. It’s a serious period of suffering, not a footnote to score a point with.

Flounder2022 · 04/12/2025 21:30

WhereYouLeftIt · 04/12/2025 19:33

Follow the money.

"RTÉ feels that Ireland’s participation remains unconscionable" - didn't they get damned near bankrupted when Ireland won three times in a row?

Given lots of countries are side-stepping hosting global events (Commonwealth Games, Olympics etc) due to the massive (and ever-climbing) costs, I'm always a little suspicious that when a country claims to be boycotting something for a moral reason, they're actually heaving a huge sigh of relief that they don't have to shell out for it this year.

Even the non-hosts of Eurovision, all the faff of selecting a song, selecting singers, shoehorning it into the schedule, co-ordinating the broadcasting and the voting, and for a return that may well be diminishing as Eurovision disappears into the increasingly-niche audience - can they still justify the expense? Follow the money!

Oh please. We haven't had a sniff at winning year!

SharonEllis · 04/12/2025 21:32

Lu2021 · 04/12/2025 21:24

Spain’s history is indeed complex, as with many countries, but using everything from the Inquisition to the dictatorship is quite a stretch. And implying that Spaniards somehow chose Franco’s fascism suggests a rather loose grasp of what actually happened. It’s a serious period of suffering, not a footnote to score a point with.

But every single aspect, every moment of Israel's history is fair game for point scoring, isn't it?

Hortesne · 04/12/2025 21:33

It’s a serious period of suffering, not a footnote to score a point with.

But this is all point scoring, all of this "your country is evil, that country over there is good" type of talk. Quite apart from bringing into sharp relief the glass houses that all the stone throwers (like eg Spain, Ireland) are living in, it doesn't make sense to say that a country is 'good' or 'bad'. Hell, it doesn't make sense to say a person is 'good' or 'bad' - we are all a mix of the two - so how can you say it about a country? A country isn't supposed to be a barometer of morality, that's not a country's job.

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