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Only Muslim soldiers will serve as peacekeepers in Gaza

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Twiglets1 · 31/10/2025 13:45

Article in The Telegraph today suggesting that the "international stabilisation force" is likely to be made up from Indonesian, Emirati and Egyptian troops.

Despite the new civil-military command centre for managing the post-war Strip being run by the US, the troops operating on the ground will mainly come from regional countries in order to reduce tension.

Potential contributing nationals are reported to be wrangling over not just the composition of the force, but its precise role – actively disarming Hamas or merely policing a post-Hamas Gaza – and its formal legal basis.

Earlier this week, King Abdullah of Jordan, one of the Arab and Muslim countries expected to play a role in the future of Gaza, said he did not believe international troops would forcibly disarm Hamas.

He said the international stabilisation force’s mandate should be “peacekeeping” not “peace enforcing”, saying “nobody will want to touch that”.

Israel has strongly opposed suggestions of Turkish or Qatari troops playing a role on the ground, on the basis of both countries’ sympathies for the Muslim Brotherhood principles on which Hamas was founded.

Ynet reported sources as saying that no Western or non-Muslim troops would be deployed.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/10/31/only-muslim-soldiers-will-serve-as-peacekeepers-in-gaza/

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Ihatetomatoes · 12/11/2025 08:55

@Twiglets1

"Hamas has previously said the fighters will not surrender and demanded that they are given safe passage, which has so far been rejected by Israel."

Safe passage where? Do they think they would be welcome anywhere? Maybe they've been watching the chanting on the marches and think they have lots of support in other countries 🤔 so could go there. Imagine that lot anywhere, total madness to accept them so what next

Twiglets1 · 12/11/2025 08:58

Ihatetomatoes · 12/11/2025 08:50

They should be imprisoned so perhaps another Muslim country might have them.in prison? I'd understand why no country would want hundreds of terrorists roaming free in their country.

I suppose Iran might agree to take them since they fund Hamas and support their goals?

Bit hard on Iranians though. No civilians anywhere would want them roaming the country as you say.

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Ihatetomatoes · 12/11/2025 09:00

Twiglets1 · 12/11/2025 08:58

I suppose Iran might agree to take them since they fund Hamas and support their goals?

Bit hard on Iranians though. No civilians anywhere would want them roaming the country as you say.

Since they fund them, send them there. Feel sorry for ordinary Iranian people though. Their leadership encourage Hamas, Hezbollah etc etc so back on them to deal with?

BadgernTheGarden · 12/11/2025 09:02

A peacekeeping force is not there to fight it's there to stop fighting. Trying to disarm Hamas (or Israel come to that) would cause more fighting. The US having troops on the ground would be a disaster waiting to happen, when the first soldier got caught in crossfire or met any sort of untoward death.

Twiglets1 · 12/11/2025 09:03

Ihatetomatoes · 12/11/2025 08:55

@Twiglets1

"Hamas has previously said the fighters will not surrender and demanded that they are given safe passage, which has so far been rejected by Israel."

Safe passage where? Do they think they would be welcome anywhere? Maybe they've been watching the chanting on the marches and think they have lots of support in other countries 🤔 so could go there. Imagine that lot anywhere, total madness to accept them so what next

It's weird to me how Hamas still think they are in a position to "demand" anything. They have about 200 fighters literally holed up in a tunnel on the IDF side that the military could do anything with and they think they are in a strong position to make demands.

They probably do think they have a lot of support around the world. But certainly no sane country in the West would agree to take them, despite the marches that may appear to show solidarity with their cause.

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BadgernTheGarden · 12/11/2025 09:08

Twiglets1 · 12/11/2025 09:03

It's weird to me how Hamas still think they are in a position to "demand" anything. They have about 200 fighters literally holed up in a tunnel on the IDF side that the military could do anything with and they think they are in a strong position to make demands.

They probably do think they have a lot of support around the world. But certainly no sane country in the West would agree to take them, despite the marches that may appear to show solidarity with their cause.

There will also be hundreds or thousands of Hamas supporters living amongst the civilian population in Gaza or out of sight in other neighbouring countries and intending to come back. It's not that easy to just disarm them and if they did give up their obvious weapons there will be any amount hidden around the country.

Twiglets1 · 12/11/2025 09:16

BadgernTheGarden · 12/11/2025 09:08

There will also be hundreds or thousands of Hamas supporters living amongst the civilian population in Gaza or out of sight in other neighbouring countries and intending to come back. It's not that easy to just disarm them and if they did give up their obvious weapons there will be any amount hidden around the country.

No it isn't but I don't think anyone has said it will be easy to disarm Hamas. Nevertheless they do need to be disarmed if the whole thing isn't going to escalate again into more thousands of people dying.

Phase 2 of the peace plan is a lot more problematic than phase 1, (not saying phase 1 is easy either).

Glad I'm not in charge of trying to make Gaza a place people can live decent lives in because it does seem quite hopeless really with all the problems.

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Twiglets1 · 13/11/2025 06:38

According to Ynet news, it remains the case that no country has so far agreed to take the (approximately) 200 Hamas terrorists “including Turkey or Qatar”.

Funny that - no one wants them anywhere near their civilians.

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mids2019 · 13/11/2025 06:56

It's interesting to hear Hamas still retain popular support as they certainly have done no favours to the people they govern. I think going forward it is imperative to disarm Hamas and affiliates to have a lasting peace. It is obvious the arms are ineffective for defence against Israel so the only reason for the arms are to protect Hamas from its own people while having the means to perpetrate some future terrorist atrocity.

For peace to arise Gaza has to give up thoughts of violence achieving its aims and engage with the international community about realistic futures. Hamas militarily have been destroyed as a coherent fighting force so must formally surrender to Llow progress.

EasternStandard · 13/11/2025 07:07

Twiglets1 · 12/11/2025 08:45

It was reported in the Jerusalem Post that:

Israel and the United States on Tuesday reached a significant compromise, agreeing on the deportation of some 200 Hamas terrorists, currently hiding in tunnels within an IDF-controlled Yellow Line in Rafah.

However, despite the arrangement, no country has yet agreed to accept the deported individuals, leaving a key aspect of the deal unresolved.

However, I also saw this development denied by the Times of Israel so it's still unclear really. I also wonder (if it is true) what country would want to take 200 Hamas terrorists??

www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-873518

Good question

quantumbutterfly · 13/11/2025 09:44

EasternStandard · 13/11/2025 07:07

Good question

Divide and conquer. Give 1 terrorist each to 200 countries ...and keep an eye on them.

I note the Maldives is an islamic country, beautiful place, far from anywhere, no jews Israelis allowed. The lads could be very happy there.

Twiglets1 · 13/11/2025 10:19

Good idea about sending them to the Maldives.

They could be swimming with the fishes in no time 😊

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quantumbutterfly · 13/11/2025 11:46

Twiglets1 · 13/11/2025 10:19

Good idea about sending them to the Maldives.

They could be swimming with the fishes in no time 😊

If they're happy they're less likely to cause trouble...and who wouldn't be happy in the Maldives. Could you be referring to the threat of rising sea levels?

I'm factoring seawater abstraction for desalination and sequestering water in the burgeoning human population, a few aquifers that have been depleted by overenthusiastic well drilling could be refilled. Humanity is great at profitable logistics, look at the fossil fuel industry.

Twiglets1 · 13/11/2025 12:26

Just a bit of snorkelling on their little trip out of Gaza @quantumbutterfly

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GeneralPeter · 13/11/2025 12:40

Pragmatically probably not a bad idea. But uncomfortably close to the idea that the Middle East are ‘Muslim lands’, given the history of that idea in the region. If it’s sold like that locally then I’d oppose it.

Ditto if only Muslims or only Christians had been in the Kosovo force.

quantumbutterfly · 13/11/2025 13:12

The path of least resistance or a compromise too far?

Interesting to see Indonesia in the running, they may be Islamic but culturally they are quite different. I don't know how effective their armed forces are but I believe their governance is quite authoritarian by Western standards.

Ihatetomatoes · 13/11/2025 18:28

quantumbutterfly · 13/11/2025 09:44

Divide and conquer. Give 1 terrorist each to 200 countries ...and keep an eye on them.

I note the Maldives is an islamic country, beautiful place, far from anywhere, no jews Israelis allowed. The lads could be very happy there.

Wow, really no Jews/Israelis allowed in Maldives? That's appalling.

quantumbutterfly · 13/11/2025 19:07

Ihatetomatoes · 13/11/2025 18:28

Wow, really no Jews/Israelis allowed in Maldives? That's appalling.

There are 32 UN member states that refuse to recognise Israel.

https://quartzmountain.org/article/how-many-countries-holder-of-israel-passports-cant-travel-to

Lots of lovely places where people who dislike Israelis can go so they never have to meet one.

Twiglets1 · 13/11/2025 19:10

quantumbutterfly · 13/11/2025 19:07

There are 32 UN member states that refuse to recognise Israel.

https://quartzmountain.org/article/how-many-countries-holder-of-israel-passports-cant-travel-to

Lots of lovely places where people who dislike Israelis can go so they never have to meet one.

Wow that's an eye opener.

That's the Maldives off my bucket list 😢

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quantumbutterfly · 13/11/2025 19:14

Twiglets1 · 13/11/2025 19:10

Wow that's an eye opener.

That's the Maldives off my bucket list 😢

Well, if the sea levels keep rising it will be off everybody's bucket list.

Twiglets1 · 13/11/2025 19:15

quantumbutterfly · 13/11/2025 19:14

Well, if the sea levels keep rising it will be off everybody's bucket list.

Think I'll stick to Spain.

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Ihatetomatoes · 16/11/2025 09:43

quantumbutterfly · 13/11/2025 19:07

There are 32 UN member states that refuse to recognise Israel.

https://quartzmountain.org/article/how-many-countries-holder-of-israel-passports-cant-travel-to

Lots of lovely places where people who dislike Israelis can go so they never have to meet one.

I had no idea. That's massively racist.

Ihatetomatoes · 16/11/2025 09:45

Countries that don't allow entry to Israeli passport holders Algeria, Bangladesh, Brunei, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Malaysia, Maldives, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Yemen.

The Maldives a holiday island and Malaysia surprised me the most.

quantumbutterfly · 16/11/2025 10:43

Ihatetomatoes · 16/11/2025 09:45

Countries that don't allow entry to Israeli passport holders Algeria, Bangladesh, Brunei, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Malaysia, Maldives, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Yemen.

The Maldives a holiday island and Malaysia surprised me the most.

Don't forget those that will stop you if you carry another passport but are shown to have visited Israel.

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