Feel like once the hostages are handed over Israel will start bombing again

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It seems too good to be true, a final end to the war.

After all the plans that were announced with regards to annexation and the Israeli far-right government members, I can’t help but feel that once all of the hostages are released Israel will go ham on Gaza.

There will be nothing to stop them bombing everywhere.

No hostages to avoid bombing.

No families pleading with the Israeli ministers.

Israel has broken so many ceasefires and this was with the hostages lives at stake.

I don’t know, but I can’t celebrate with everyone as I don’t believe it will last and my heart says that’s it’s going to get worse.

I think Hamas would be perfectly happy if every single person bar one in Gaza was dead, as long as that one was Muslim. They don't give a shit about their own people.

Netanyahu is a monster and a war criminal, but he does care about Jewish lives.

Hamas doesn't care about Palestinian lives, it only cares about eradicating Jewish ones. There is no cost they won't pay. That's why they are so dangerous. They'd sacrifice endless Palestinian lives to tak some Jewish ones.

So this picture shows a combination of destroyed and damaged buildings. How viable or safe so you think it is to live in those damaged buildings?

People's minimisation is disgusting here.

Again, it was an EXAMPLE of the difference between damage and destruction. If you want to fight strawmen I'll leave you to it.

I can assure you are not the only person to recognise the extent of the catastrophe of this war so please stop trying to make out that that's the case.

It was your example of the difference, which downplayed what the most likely reality is. You took great exception to people suggesting destruction was the same as damage and gave an example of blow out windows as what damage could mean, seriously anyone with half a brain can see what you're doing.

Agreed.

Thank goodness a peace and rebuilding plan is on the table.

See also:
https://borgenproject.org/syrias-recovery-package/
And:
https://www.newarab.com/analysis/reconstruction-efforts-libya-are-cementing-haftars-ambitions

All they need now is a government focussed on the good of it's people.

A lot of obfuscation on here.

I'll simplify it for you:

Hamas are the baddies.

If Netanyahu cared about Israeli lives he wouldn’t have used the hostages as pawns and he’d have actually tried to get them back.

Totally agree. The hostages simply weren’t a priority for him.

How would you feel if on the night before the hostages were due to be released I provided a breakdown of how many were in the Israeli army before being kidnapped? Is that the reason they’ve been kept whilst others were released.

At a moment when there is a glimmer of hope that this will come to an end you have to come in with your ‘oh a 16 year old had a knife’. The Israeli army have a lot more than bloody knife’s at their disposal.

What seems to have been missed by many on here and most of the media is:

Lack of fair trials = we should not assume guilt

• the brutality and torture many Palestinians face after arrest would render any trial considered unfair.
• interrogations often carried out under torture and information obtained use in trials.
• the trials are often military tribunals, not the sort of jury trial we are used to. They have conviction rates of 95% plus. This sort of conviction rate alone should give rise to concern about impartiality.
• this fairness and impartiality has been doubted by organisations and NGO's, including our Bar Human Rights Committee.
• I've spent some time reading of the issues with these trials, and any one of them would result in a trial in the UK being deemed to be unfair under article 6. All of them together create a system that seems designed with bias at its very centre. Trials our rubber stamping of a foregone conclusion, not an independent investigation.

So in short, whilst many of those convicted may have in reality, been guilty, many may not. 'convicted of' under these sorts of circumstances, doesn't mean the safety of conviction you'd have in the UK or America or Europe (where the right to a fair trial is enshrined by law and generally followed!) many of those convicted are likely to be innocent.

Thousands held without charge
Thousands are held without charge (around 3k at present). This can be for years at a time, limited or no access to a lawyer, no safeguards, no viable ways to challenge the detention, with many 'prisoners' being being subjected to starvation, beatings and sexual abuse. Those held include children.

These are people remember this have not only not been convicted, but haven't even been charged with the criminal offence. In prison for years with no opportunity to defend themselves. Held pretty much as bargaining chips.

In hostage Square, thousands celebrate the return of the hostages, not unreasonably. The world stage will be celebrating, we've seen the rooms they're returning to with a bottle of chilled Coke waiting for them. Good for them.

A few miles away poorly treated children snatched from their families and detained without charge will be returned. Sometimes to rubble, if not likely to poverty. Their families have told they'll be arrested if they celebrate. Most of those released are innocent in the names of the law. Just as innocent as those hostages. But it feels like we're not allowed to care about them, after all, they're just Palestinian prisoners.

The 16 year old (Mohammed Abu Qatish) stabbed a man (civilian) in the back in a terror attack, causing serious injuries (reports that he was paralysed).

www.timesofisrael.com/man-stabbed-seriously-hurt-in-suspected-terror-attack-in-east-jerusalem/

Sinwar was released in a previous hostage exchange (for Gilad Shalit), with the ensuing devastation and horror for both Israel and Gaza. There are serious concerns that releasing terrorists is seen as a win by Hamas, bolsters their conviction to resume terror, and continues the destructive, horrific cycle, to the detriment of all.

I'm very very grateful for the ceasefire, and please Gd the release of the hostages imminently, and the chance to start to heal and rebuild, and forge a new way forward for all, but that does not negate that there are some very dangerous people being released.

I saw a video of a young autistic boy that had been released. Accused of throwing stones I think. God only knows what he went through. How people can watch this stuff and still blame these children is beyond me.

The Drs that won’t be released, the children that were imprisoned for throwing stones the list goes on. Just in jail rotting and we aren’t allowed to be angry. We must all bow down to the mighty Israel in fear of being called anti semetic.

I saw a video of 'kids throwing stones' in Gaza and it was a gang of teens watched by adults lobbing rocks at cars as they drove by, smashing their windows, trying to cause accidents and intimidating the passengers. Previously I genuinely thought they were pelting people with pebbles, but actually it was pretty horrendous.

Not saying it deserves years in jail without trial, but just that the description of the crime wasn't what I was expecting.

In desperation people do all sorts. What pushed this 16 year old do that. We have to ask the question.

Despite what many on here say that it’a a hatred for Jews I don’t think that’s the reason alone. But nobody wants to accept that. Or even consider there could be other reasons.

I’m sure some stones are bigger than others but it doesn’t deserve time in jail. The stories and videos of stone throwing isn’t new.

@Alittlefeedbackwouldbeniceexplained it far better than I could.

Look at what the settlers do. Steal houses and land and with the protection of the Israeli army. I’ve seen videos of those children doing horrific acts but they aren’t rotting away in prison.

I literally said in my post it didn't deserve time in jail, just that I thought 'throwing stones' minimised what they were actually doing.

What pushed this 16 year old do that. We have to ask the question.

Exploitative adults.

And not a hideous Israeli regime that made him think there was nothing to lose?

We know that Hamas grooms kids.

Someone who thinks they have nothing to lose might attack property, or steal something, it takes more than that to stab an innocent person apparently going about their business. The Israeli government did not make him do that.

Why do you think Palestinians throwing rocks at Israeli cars don’t deserve jail time?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Adele_Biton

https://www.timesofisrael.com/police-probing-death-of-israeli-woman-in-west-bank-crash-family-its-terror/amp/

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Asher_and_Yonatan_Palmer

Do you feel the same about the Jewish teens in this case in which a Palestinian woman was killed? Maybe you should call Israel to release them if they are still in jail?

www.timesofisrael.com/detained-jewish-teenagers-suspected-of-murdering-palestinian-woman-shin-bet/

Throwing rocks at cars travelling on a highway is attempted murder in my book.

Would you be OK with dodging rocks pelted at your car when you’re driving on a motorway in the UK?

They may stop the worst of it for a year or two but as it is an apartheid state, the injustice will continue

Wow. This is classic Palestinianism. Nothing is their fault. Stabbing an unarmed civilian in the BACK is ‘justified resistance’.

‘Justified resistance’ is resisting being prevented from killing Jews from my understanding, which has often been successful. If Palestinians hadn’t been ‘justifiably resisting’ for the last 50 years and had got on with building their own State, I imagine they would have had much happier, peaceful lives
and their 16 year olds wouldn’t be be in prison for terrorist attacks.

Being raised in an ideology that advocates killing Jews as an heroic act of martyrdom pushed this 16 year old to do that.

HTHs.

Why is Israel an apartheid State in your opinion?

The Palestinians don’t recognise Israel as a legitimate State so how they be under apartheid from Israel?