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itsnotveryfriendlyhereisit · 22/09/2025 10:16

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/whatsapps-ai-shows-palestinian-children-with-guns-and-israelis-with-books-4545996

Looks like everything posted on the net can be manipulated to suit whichever side you want to believe in.

anothercortisolqueen · 22/09/2025 10:34

Children Not Numbers is a registered charity who may have the info you are looking for. They are dedicated to providing immediate and long term support and rehabilitation for children affected by conflict especially in Gaza. I am proud to support them.

TakeMe2Insanity · 22/09/2025 12:34

PollyPaintsFlowers · 22/09/2025 08:15

On X, on Israeli WA channels and Hamas Telegram channels. They're pretty widespread if one steps out of their bubble

Why are you on Hamas telegram channels?

Everexpanding · 23/09/2025 23:06

Children are always children.
20,000 dead children is too many,
i don’t care if there are Ai pictures of them holding rocket launchers on stupid social media
taking the lives of 20, 000 at least is unforgivable.
destroying the childhood, of so many many more is unforgivable
It needs to stop, it is horrific

KoalaKoKo · 24/09/2025 00:29

PollyPaintsFlowers · 22/09/2025 08:23

You can't get more credible than Hamas, surely?

But it's nothing new, Amnesty International have been reporting on Palestinian child soldiers for decades. I'm sure you think Amnesty are credible, don't you

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20090906152355/asiapacific.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGMDE150332005?open&of=ENG-ISR" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://web.archive.org/web/20090906152355/asiapacific.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGMDE150332005?open&of=ENG-ISR

As pointed out many many times before the practise of utilising children as soldiers was banned by Hamas 20 years ago so a 20 year old article has ZERO to do with the current genocide. Please stop rehashing the same arguments for murdering children on a board for mothers, this has already been debunked and it is also quite upsetting for all of us who have tucked our kids into their beds for the night. It is NEVER okay to target children. End of!

LondonGalll · 24/09/2025 04:47

DonaldTrumpsTwitterFeed · 10/09/2025 20:04

Hours in a day = 24
Hours in a week = 168
Hours in a month = 730

Hours in 23 months = 16790.

So not a child every hour at 20,000 at all.

That puts their hours just over 3K out. Which actually makes it 19 months. Which is four months different - quite a lot. That's what...17% off their guess? That's quite a lot.

They can't even get their headline right which rather makes it hard to really trust anything they say. If you are going to make sensationalist headlines, aimed I am sure at generating public condemnation, you should try and get the facts right.

They'd be better off halting the sensationalist headlines and printing accurate facts as they might find people are more receptive to their pleas. Over-exaggerating does no one any favours.

bloody hell, so the Israeli army has killed 17k children/babies, that’s heartbreaking, a massive number

MummytoE · 24/09/2025 07:00

LondonGalll · 24/09/2025 04:47

bloody hell, so the Israeli army has killed 17k children/babies, that’s heartbreaking, a massive number

But it's not 20'000 , so that's ok!!

SharonEllis · 24/09/2025 07:20

KoalaKoKo · 24/09/2025 00:29

As pointed out many many times before the practise of utilising children as soldiers was banned by Hamas 20 years ago so a 20 year old article has ZERO to do with the current genocide. Please stop rehashing the same arguments for murdering children on a board for mothers, this has already been debunked and it is also quite upsetting for all of us who have tucked our kids into their beds for the night. It is NEVER okay to target children. End of!

We all know Hamas officially banned child soldiers but its blatantly obvious that they didn't stop bringing up children to glorify martyrdom and killing Jews and also continue to use them in the front line too. Of course they continue to recruit and use children (people under 18).

https://www.un.org/unispal/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/AHRC46NGO42_050321.pdf

There's plenty more if you look. Often found in articles that document extensive use of child soldiers across the middle east and africa.

Everexpanding · 24/09/2025 11:23

A recent article

“How many more babies must die before the world takes action?

Why should babies die of malnutrition in the 21st century, especially when it’s totally preventable?
At UNRWA, we have over 6,000 trucks of food, hygiene supplies and medicines outside Gaza waiting for the green light to go in.
The aid will mainly help little girls like Ahlam. UNRWA also has more than 1,000 health workers who can provide boys and girls with specialised nutritional services.
Amid the daily livestream of horrors we get from Gaza on our screens, one cannot help but ask how many more Ahlam’s and Salam’s have to die before taking action?
How much longer until a ceasefire is reached so that bombs stop falling on emaciated and dying children?””

https://news.un.org/en/story/2025/07/1165403

First Person: How many more children must die before the world acts?

The ongoing 21-month-long war in Gaza has seen more than 58,000 killed and 100,000 wounded as Israeli attacks continue amid rising numbers of child deaths from malnutrition. In recent weeks, UN agencies have recorded nearly 900 deaths of desperate and...

https://news.un.org/en/story/2025/07/1165403

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 24/09/2025 17:00

SharonEllis · 24/09/2025 07:20

We all know Hamas officially banned child soldiers but its blatantly obvious that they didn't stop bringing up children to glorify martyrdom and killing Jews and also continue to use them in the front line too. Of course they continue to recruit and use children (people under 18).

https://www.un.org/unispal/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/AHRC46NGO42_050321.pdf

There's plenty more if you look. Often found in articles that document extensive use of child soldiers across the middle east and africa.

Are you trying to excuse the deaths of tens of thousands of children?

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GladioliGreen · 24/09/2025 17:14

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 24/09/2025 17:00

Are you trying to excuse the deaths of tens of thousands of children?

It reminds me of a thread it would nearly two years ago now where 8 year old Adam was executed, shot in the back of the head by the IDF whilst running away from them in the West Bank. Posters here fell over themselves to say how he would have grown up to be terrorist anyway so it doesn't matter. It was disgusting. Always the same justifications.

A child is not a child to some if they are Palestinian children. We shouldn't be surprised that that idea is in the UK too when as the poll from the Hebrew University in Jerusalem in early June showed it is a widespread belief in Israel that there are no innocents in Gaza.

SharonEllis · 24/09/2025 17:24

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 24/09/2025 17:00

Are you trying to excuse the deaths of tens of thousands of children?

I was refuting blatant misinformation. Why would anyone who cares about children downplay the horrific reality that Hamas brutalises its own children? Truly, I don't understand the things I read here.

SharonEllis · 24/09/2025 17:27

GladioliGreen · 24/09/2025 17:14

It reminds me of a thread it would nearly two years ago now where 8 year old Adam was executed, shot in the back of the head by the IDF whilst running away from them in the West Bank. Posters here fell over themselves to say how he would have grown up to be terrorist anyway so it doesn't matter. It was disgusting. Always the same justifications.

A child is not a child to some if they are Palestinian children. We shouldn't be surprised that that idea is in the UK too when as the poll from the Hebrew University in Jerusalem in early June showed it is a widespread belief in Israel that there are no innocents in Gaza.

I don't see the relevance. Who here is suggesting a child is not a child if they are Palestinian? Other than the person who said Hamas doesn't use child soldiers. Obviously Hamas do use under 18s for military roles. So I guess you could argue that they are saying Palestinian under 18s are not children.

Everexpanding · 24/09/2025 18:06

Yes it is terrible the things being done to children

www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/article/what-is-israel-doing-to-its-own-schoolchildren/

Twiglets1 · 24/09/2025 18:56

GladioliGreen · 24/09/2025 17:14

It reminds me of a thread it would nearly two years ago now where 8 year old Adam was executed, shot in the back of the head by the IDF whilst running away from them in the West Bank. Posters here fell over themselves to say how he would have grown up to be terrorist anyway so it doesn't matter. It was disgusting. Always the same justifications.

A child is not a child to some if they are Palestinian children. We shouldn't be surprised that that idea is in the UK too when as the poll from the Hebrew University in Jerusalem in early June showed it is a widespread belief in Israel that there are no innocents in Gaza.

Posters here fell over themselves to say how he would have grown up to be terrorist anyway so it doesn't matter.

What a vivid imagination you have ... any more examples of things that never happened?

LastTrainsEast · 24/09/2025 19:37

Every day since that Oct 7th when Hamas went out to have some fun murdering, raping and stealing children Hamas have had the option of ending the fighting.

They could have released the hostages.

Even if you don't trust Israel to stop the other countries involved would have insisted.

Everyone hates how long this has gone on and wants to end it and send in aid and help rebuild. They can''t without the cooperation of Hamas and they won't get that.

So 700 days on which it could have stopped, but Hamas want Palestinian deaths. They have lots of Palestinians to spare and each one killed helps recruit one or more people at a nice dinner party in a safe and comfortable western nation.

"oh those poor Palestinians" they say "we should force those awful Jews to stop trying to get the hostages back. It's a terrorist's human right to keep hostages anyway"

LastTrainsEast · 24/09/2025 19:44

I've always thought that if I were taken hostage I'd expect my government to come for me. I'd know I could even be killed in the fighting, but I'd yearn for the sounds of bombs dropping and rockets hitting the buildings my captors were hiding in.

If it stopped because people wanted to bekind to the terrorists holding me that could be worse than the torture.

Some will say "but not all Palestinians are evil" and yet they have the power to rise up and stop this and don't.

So they are complicit even if they were not the ones cheering the murderers.

They have had 700 chances to end it too.

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 24/09/2025 19:49

It’s telling that on a thread about Israel killing over 20,000 children, the focus shifts to Hamas. Even if Hamas recruits child soldiers (which is itself horrific), that doesn’t erase the reality: Israel is killing children at a rate of more than one per hour.

Two wrongs don’t cancel each other out and nothing justifies bombing schools, hospitals, and homes, or starving toddlers. This isn’t about “Hamas tactics,” it’s about Israel’s choices and the catastrophic child death toll they’ve caused.

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Wedonttalkaboutboris · 24/09/2025 19:50

SharonEllis · 24/09/2025 17:27

I don't see the relevance. Who here is suggesting a child is not a child if they are Palestinian? Other than the person who said Hamas doesn't use child soldiers. Obviously Hamas do use under 18s for military roles. So I guess you could argue that they are saying Palestinian under 18s are not children.

You were the one who dragged child soldiers into a thread about Israel killing children every hour. That’s not ‘refuting misinformation,’ it’s changing the subject. The reality remains: more Palestinian children have been killed by Israeli bombs than Hamas has ever put in uniform. That’s the horror you keep dodging.

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Wedonttalkaboutboris · 24/09/2025 19:53

LastTrainsEast · 24/09/2025 19:44

I've always thought that if I were taken hostage I'd expect my government to come for me. I'd know I could even be killed in the fighting, but I'd yearn for the sounds of bombs dropping and rockets hitting the buildings my captors were hiding in.

If it stopped because people wanted to bekind to the terrorists holding me that could be worse than the torture.

Some will say "but not all Palestinians are evil" and yet they have the power to rise up and stop this and don't.

So they are complicit even if they were not the ones cheering the murderers.

They have had 700 chances to end it too.

I think this is one of the bleakest things I’ve read on here.

Imagine thinking ‘I’d welcome the bombs’ is some profound point, when in reality those bombs have killed 20,000 children who weren’t holding anyone hostage.

Civilians in Gaza aren’t action-movie extras- they’re people being starved and bombed with no way out. Pretending they could just ‘rise up’ against one of the most advanced militaries on earth is delusional.

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Thegreyhound · 24/09/2025 20:01

LastTrainsEast · 24/09/2025 19:37

Every day since that Oct 7th when Hamas went out to have some fun murdering, raping and stealing children Hamas have had the option of ending the fighting.

They could have released the hostages.

Even if you don't trust Israel to stop the other countries involved would have insisted.

Everyone hates how long this has gone on and wants to end it and send in aid and help rebuild. They can''t without the cooperation of Hamas and they won't get that.

So 700 days on which it could have stopped, but Hamas want Palestinian deaths. They have lots of Palestinians to spare and each one killed helps recruit one or more people at a nice dinner party in a safe and comfortable western nation.

"oh those poor Palestinians" they say "we should force those awful Jews to stop trying to get the hostages back. It's a terrorist's human right to keep hostages anyway"

No one in the world is saying what you have said at the end of your post. Offensive rubbish.

SharonEllis · 24/09/2025 20:03

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 24/09/2025 19:50

You were the one who dragged child soldiers into a thread about Israel killing children every hour. That’s not ‘refuting misinformation,’ it’s changing the subject. The reality remains: more Palestinian children have been killed by Israeli bombs than Hamas has ever put in uniform. That’s the horror you keep dodging.

No. I responded to a pp who said 'As pointed out many many times before the practise of utilising children as soldiers was banned by Hamas 20 years ago'.

This is incorrect. Or at leadt they carried on despite the 'ban". It wasn't me that brought it up though.

Why are you and that pp so invested in this particular piece of misinformation?

Thegreyhound · 24/09/2025 20:03

LastTrainsEast · 24/09/2025 19:44

I've always thought that if I were taken hostage I'd expect my government to come for me. I'd know I could even be killed in the fighting, but I'd yearn for the sounds of bombs dropping and rockets hitting the buildings my captors were hiding in.

If it stopped because people wanted to bekind to the terrorists holding me that could be worse than the torture.

Some will say "but not all Palestinians are evil" and yet they have the power to rise up and stop this and don't.

So they are complicit even if they were not the ones cheering the murderers.

They have had 700 chances to end it too.

If you read what actual hostages say about what they thought when hostages it is rarely if ever bloodthirsty nonsense such as this.

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