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Conflict in the Middle East

Global Sumud Flotilla heading for Gaza

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smallglassbottle · 05/09/2025 20:02

https://youtube.com/shorts/whzFomXOWVs?si=WwgxrwCycwxx_OTf

The largest aid flotilla so far.

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KoalaKoKo · 06/09/2025 18:34

SharonEllis · 06/09/2025 14:21

No to stop Hamas importing weapons and materials for building tunnels and military capability, not to mention drug trafficking.

Anyone who supports Palestinians would actually be in favour of cutting off the sources of Hamas power and control but of course that is not the case.

Of course Israel doesn't want to expend vast resources policing Hamas's crminal trade.

The IDF have dropped over 85,000 tons of explosives on Gaza - the equivalent of 6 Hiroshimas - but a few humanitarians on sail boats with baby formula is the real danger.

Stop with the ridiculous propaganda - the weapons making their way into Gaza are the ones being yielded by the terrorists in the IDF. Israel has NO right to attack boats in international waters, to abduct people - they have NO right to any Palestinian land or water.

SharonEllis · 06/09/2025 18:43

KoalaKoKo · 06/09/2025 18:34

The IDF have dropped over 85,000 tons of explosives on Gaza - the equivalent of 6 Hiroshimas - but a few humanitarians on sail boats with baby formula is the real danger.

Stop with the ridiculous propaganda - the weapons making their way into Gaza are the ones being yielded by the terrorists in the IDF. Israel has NO right to attack boats in international waters, to abduct people - they have NO right to any Palestinian land or water.

Nobody, not even the IDF has said a few numbskulls with baby formula are a danger. But if they let them through every pro-Pally and her granny will turn up and it will be chaos. There is a war going on you know?

You know full well Hamas have always smuggled in weaponry and drugs in and will continue to do so if given half a chance.

mirroronthedrawrers · 06/09/2025 18:59

KoalaKoKo · 06/09/2025 18:34

The IDF have dropped over 85,000 tons of explosives on Gaza - the equivalent of 6 Hiroshimas - but a few humanitarians on sail boats with baby formula is the real danger.

Stop with the ridiculous propaganda - the weapons making their way into Gaza are the ones being yielded by the terrorists in the IDF. Israel has NO right to attack boats in international waters, to abduct people - they have NO right to any Palestinian land or water.

And in the same time period, Hamas has dropped around 65,000 tonnes of rockets on Israel.

Martymcfly24 · 06/09/2025 19:59

mirroronthedrawrers · 06/09/2025 18:59

And in the same time period, Hamas has dropped around 65,000 tonnes of rockets on Israel.

Can I ask your source on this please?

justasecond · 06/09/2025 20:18

Wow mirrors 65k tonnes of explosives that would really cause some damage to Israel comparable to Gaza in terms of civilian deaths, damage to infrastructure and residential buildings, no? Yet we have seen any evidence of that. Please cite your source for this unheard of news

Notmycircusnotmyotter · 06/09/2025 20:20

I hope they're all arrested indefinitely

SomeWomanSomewhere · 06/09/2025 20:33

Martymcfly24 · 06/09/2025 19:59

Can I ask your source on this please?

Someone's wild fantasy, presumably - possibly social media! Insane claim, and it's easily debunked using simple maths:

Qassams (the rockets used by Hamas) range between 35kg and 50kg in terms of mass (Source: Wikipedia).

Let's assume 50kg to be generous. 65k tonnes divided by 50kg would be 1.3 million rockets. Divided by 700 days, that'd be more than 1800 rockets a day ... which is just not happening.

No idea why people insist on making up the most easily debunked claims.

Martymcfly24 · 06/09/2025 21:14

SomeWomanSomewhere · 06/09/2025 20:33

Someone's wild fantasy, presumably - possibly social media! Insane claim, and it's easily debunked using simple maths:

Qassams (the rockets used by Hamas) range between 35kg and 50kg in terms of mass (Source: Wikipedia).

Let's assume 50kg to be generous. 65k tonnes divided by 50kg would be 1.3 million rockets. Divided by 700 days, that'd be more than 1800 rockets a day ... which is just not happening.

No idea why people insist on making up the most easily debunked claims.

Edited

https://www.jns.org/idf-first-600-days-of-war-saw-nearly-30000-projectiles-launched-at-israel/

“There have been approximately 10,100 indirect-fire launches from Gaza that have crossed into Israeli territory

So going by your maths 50kg by 10,100 is about 505000kg which in tonnes.

About 505 tonnes
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A small bit less that 65,000
@mirroronthedrawrers

Martymcfly24 · 06/09/2025 21:14

Notmycircusnotmyotter · 06/09/2025 20:20

I hope they're all arrested indefinitely

Why?

GladioliGreen · 06/09/2025 22:39

Notmycircusnotmyotter · 06/09/2025 20:20

I hope they're all arrested indefinitely

Well it wouldn't surprise me, Israel have a long history of locking people up without charging them for any crimes for an indefinite period of time and if they drag them out of International waters like they did last time they will be locking up them without them having commited any crime. I wouldn't be 'hoping' for that though given that Israel also have a long history of torturing and sexually assaulting the people they lock up under this 'scheme'. Surely even the most ardent of Greta haters wouldn't wish that on her.

stomachamelon · 06/09/2025 23:06

What I hope for Greta is a big old dose of reality. Whether that means letting them in and finding out what happens when the tiny amount of aid is distributed- who are they giving it to? Or not? There would be anarchy. Or let her sit under rocket fire in Israel as she repeatedly flouts the law and then ‘mock’ bleats when she is rescued.

Either way works for me. She is ridiculous and performative as are the people with them. They are an expensive and unwelcome distraction.

GladioliGreen · 06/09/2025 23:25

stomachamelon · 06/09/2025 23:06

What I hope for Greta is a big old dose of reality. Whether that means letting them in and finding out what happens when the tiny amount of aid is distributed- who are they giving it to? Or not? There would be anarchy. Or let her sit under rocket fire in Israel as she repeatedly flouts the law and then ‘mock’ bleats when she is rescued.

Either way works for me. She is ridiculous and performative as are the people with them. They are an expensive and unwelcome distraction.

What law do you imagine she is going to 'repeatly flout'?

KoalaKoKo · 06/09/2025 23:42

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Usou · 06/09/2025 23:43

Has the weeping Welsh man gone this time?

stomachamelon · 06/09/2025 23:44

Whether you agree or disagree Israel will not let a flotilla of who knows who with who knows what to just float into Gaza.

what on earth (logically) do you think will happen when they get there? And Israel can’t win as they will be expected to protect them as they will carry individually a massive price on their heads (with Greta’s the biggest)

Do you know how much they were carrying last time? Those boats are tiny and fairly full of people. After they are all fed and watered it will be negligible. And Hamas will Just let them leave again? It’s the epitome of white saviour complex.

They have been warned.

stomachamelon · 06/09/2025 23:54

@KoalaKoKo i have had a healthier dose of reality bigger than you can imagine. Have you lived under constant terrifying rocket fire? Praying that dome does what it needs to? Doesn’t work all the time you know. Been displaced? Thankful that our government provides the shelters that saves our lives.

Greta is putting herself in that position and I don’t wish anything on her. Same as the rest on those gas guzzling boats. I thought she was an eco warrior? How much fuel has been dumped in the sea on these performative flights of fancy?

have you got any evidence that Israel (sorry the ‘Zionist’s’) droned and carried out that attack near Malta?? I mean I know they are technologically advanced but still? Or are you insinuating others were in on it? Which wanders slightly into conspiracy theory territory. Even wiki admits there is no evidence. (Al jeezera doesn’t count)

Notmycircusnotmyotter · 06/09/2025 23:59

Because our ally, Israel, is fighting a death cult and all those that side with Hamas' propaganda should be treated as terrorists

KoalaKoKo · 07/09/2025 00:00

stomachamelon · 06/09/2025 23:44

Whether you agree or disagree Israel will not let a flotilla of who knows who with who knows what to just float into Gaza.

what on earth (logically) do you think will happen when they get there? And Israel can’t win as they will be expected to protect them as they will carry individually a massive price on their heads (with Greta’s the biggest)

Do you know how much they were carrying last time? Those boats are tiny and fairly full of people. After they are all fed and watered it will be negligible. And Hamas will Just let them leave again? It’s the epitome of white saviour complex.

They have been warned.

You think they have more to fear from Hamas - the IDF have rolled over pro Palestine supporters with tanks, they have shot them - the IDF have also recently murdered 20k+ children, don’t know if you’ve heard! If I was on those boats I would fear the IDF and how after murdering me they would use propaganda to justify the murder. Yes the breaking of the blockade is symbolic but it is also necessary to highlight the horrendous situation! People are being murdered right this second, kids are dying of enforced starvation right this second - it is so important we highlight it and shout it from the rooftops so our governments stop all trade and all relations with these mass murderers! I am so proud of the brave people on those boats - if I didn’t have kids I would totally go with them!

stomachamelon · 07/09/2025 00:12

@KoalaKoKo yes I do actually. Did you not see what happened last time and Smiley Greta with her sarnie. She looked terrified didn’t she?

And I just wanted to point out…. When you’re in that situation when ‘home made’ rockets are falling. From more than one surrounding terror outfit your Brain does not think ‘home made rocket’. You are still terrified, your mental health is wrecked, your children are inconsolable, you live on your nerves. Your sympathy is only ever one sided. It ALL needs to stop.

They want to sail into being received into this. You don’t think Hamas will see them as useful? Manipulate them? It makes no sense as what do you think happens ‘symbolically’ when they arrive.

GladioliGreen · 07/09/2025 00:28

stomachamelon · 07/09/2025 00:12

@KoalaKoKo yes I do actually. Did you not see what happened last time and Smiley Greta with her sarnie. She looked terrified didn’t she?

And I just wanted to point out…. When you’re in that situation when ‘home made’ rockets are falling. From more than one surrounding terror outfit your Brain does not think ‘home made rocket’. You are still terrified, your mental health is wrecked, your children are inconsolable, you live on your nerves. Your sympathy is only ever one sided. It ALL needs to stop.

They want to sail into being received into this. You don’t think Hamas will see them as useful? Manipulate them? It makes no sense as what do you think happens ‘symbolically’ when they arrive.

You didn't answer what laws you think she would be repeatedly flouting?

TulipLavender · 07/09/2025 02:21

Can anyone explain to me why it is such a threat to Israel for this flotilla to land in Gaza? Why don't they just let it happen? What's the worse that could happen to Israel.

I'm sure there is or can be a mechanism for checking boats heading to Gaza to ensure no weapons or other security risks are on board and permitting entry.

juggleit · 07/09/2025 04:19

KoalaKoKo · 06/09/2025 18:34

The IDF have dropped over 85,000 tons of explosives on Gaza - the equivalent of 6 Hiroshimas - but a few humanitarians on sail boats with baby formula is the real danger.

Stop with the ridiculous propaganda - the weapons making their way into Gaza are the ones being yielded by the terrorists in the IDF. Israel has NO right to attack boats in international waters, to abduct people - they have NO right to any Palestinian land or water.

You missed out the fact that the buildings that were blown up by the IDF were on buildings that were already rammed to the high heavens with explosives set by Hamas with the trip wires set in the under ground tunnels.

The IDF’s approach to the Arial bombing was a far more expedient and safer approach to remove buildings that would of already have blown up, indeed, they may well have been accidentally blown up by children setting them off if entering into the tunnels

Another point to note is that setting boobie traps is a breach of International law.

KoalaKoKo · 07/09/2025 08:27

juggleit · 07/09/2025 04:19

You missed out the fact that the buildings that were blown up by the IDF were on buildings that were already rammed to the high heavens with explosives set by Hamas with the trip wires set in the under ground tunnels.

The IDF’s approach to the Arial bombing was a far more expedient and safer approach to remove buildings that would of already have blown up, indeed, they may well have been accidentally blown up by children setting them off if entering into the tunnels

Another point to note is that setting boobie traps is a breach of International law.

Please show us the evidence! 85000 tons of explosives is 6x the amount used in Hiroshima - more than the bombing of Dresden and London combined. The IDF have directly killed over 60,000 people which includes over 20,000 children. You think that is safe???

SharonEllis · 07/09/2025 08:41

KoalaKoKo · 07/09/2025 08:27

Please show us the evidence! 85000 tons of explosives is 6x the amount used in Hiroshima - more than the bombing of Dresden and London combined. The IDF have directly killed over 60,000 people which includes over 20,000 children. You think that is safe???

No we dont know that the IDF have 'directly killed' 60k people. We dont know how many of those were actually killed by Hamas and of course many are completely legitimate targets if they are Hamas. We know the figure of Gazans killed, as issued by the Hamas health ministry.

stomachamelon · 07/09/2025 09:11

The less than truthful ‘Gazan health ministry’

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