Israel committing genocide in Gaza, world’s top scholars on the crime say

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An overwhelming majority of members of the world’s leading genocide scholars’ association have backed a resolution stating that Israel’s actions in Gaza meet the legal definition of the crime.
Eighty-six per cent of those who voted in the 500-member International Association of Genocide Scholars (IAGS) supported the motion. The resolution states that “Israel’s policies and actions in Gaza meet the legal definition of genocide in article II of the United Nations convention for the prevention and punishment of the crime of genocide (1948).”

www.theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/01/israel-committing-genocide-in-gaza-worlds-top-scholars-on-the-say

Well let us know what you think of the analysis - if you get a chance to read their report.

@CaramelPecan

In addition to the Washington Post investigation which is behind a paywall but very comprehensive, there is the sky news investigation amongst others.

I don't see any windows in the videos of the cars.

What do you think the truth is?

You have posted a number of different scenarios here to cast doubt on the events as investigated.

Am I to presume based on these you don't believe she was murdered at all and the whole scenario was fabricated.

Is there a link? I'm not finding it

No, I think both sides have behaved "badly." I just think that Israel could probably have done virtually anything, good or bad, and still have met with the same fate at the hands of Hamas and the Gazan society that literally demonises them for reasons that have nothing to do with historical grievances.

You put in the URL for a website into:

https://archive.ph

Fair enough thank you for that.

I think both sides demonise each other massively and the level of hate from both societies is huge.

Likely that Hamas executed them (perhaps outside of the vehicle due to lack of evidence of injuries inside the vehicle) for trying to evacuate against their orders. The IDF had told everyone to evacuate that day. Then used the story as propaganda obviously. Apparently there is evidence the ambulance exploded from inside.

Although I hope the event was staged and Hind is safe and well like this little boy, who the IDF apparently shot at a GHF site back in May.

https://x.com/GHFUpdates/status/1963620678650806365

Well, yes, sort of... but one of the things that made 7/10 so shocking is that many Israelis were involved in peace projects with Gazans and helped them out, only to find that they were Hamas spies finding out as much as they could about who would be where in the kibbutzim that day.

I reckon Hamas's strategy is quite obvious: they'd never win a proper war, however many missiles they kept lobbing over to Israel and however many terrorist attacks they managed to carry out. So they deliberately provoked a conflict that they could leverage for propaganda purposes and get the world rallying against Jews the world over. They know it's happened in Europe many times before, so why not again?

On 7/10, as the atrocities were unfolding in Israel, Hamas's allies in London were already planning the march for the following weekend so that they could disguise their sickening terrorist frenzy as a justified appeal for "freedom". And people swallowed it hook, line and sinker and were immediately marching and chanting "From the river to the sea." Soon, cheering "Death to the IDF" at Glastonbury. More recently, flinging themselves under the bus in support of Palestine Action (whose co-founder spoke in praise of Hamas on 8/10/23 FFS!) on the grounds of "hey, free speech and all that."

All Hamas has to do is continue to maximise civilian suffering and death in Gaza, film it, and flood our social media with it, and leave Western liberals to do the rest. They have their eyes on the prize, and this is their best chance of getting it. I wish I could say it wasn't working.

If Hamas’s strategy is so “obvious,” why does Israel get to respond by starving, bombing, and flattening tens of thousands of civilians? Claiming it’s justified is embarrassing.

Well, it's in Hamas's interests to make sure food doesn't reach civilians, isn't it? Their own people are simply expendable, a price worth paying.

A 5 year old child actor? For 3.5 hours - no 5 year old child is that convincing an actor. Saying the tanks are near, I'm scared come and get me? Where was she? Outside of the car? Who shot up the car and why so many bullets? Who ran over the vehicle? Why did the ambulance crew go there?

So you don't think anyone died in the car. But Hamas staged the whole thing. Over many seperate recorded calls, all staged. And then Hamas despite not actually killing anyone in the car just shot 355 rounds into the car and ran over it with a bulldozer despite being in close proximity to IDF troops and tanks just for the propaganda value?

it wasn’t Hamas enforcing the blockade or confiscating every baby formula bottle sent by doctors. That was Israel. Starving two million people can’t be justified as “Hamas’s fault”.

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I hope it's all fucking staged and we will find out that 20,000 children haven't been bombed, buried under rubble, shot to bits by tanks up, had limbs amputated without anaesthesia and been snipered in the head or chest or shot by quadcopter or starved.
I pray to God the whole thing is just a sick, fucking Hamas propaganda and all the children are just fine and in gazawood films sets dining on nutella.

The recently eliminated Hamas ‘Spokesman’ Abu Obeida apparently had a whole production team going on with videographers, film editors etc, so you’re probably not too far off.

I still don’t get it that it is not understood that propaganda is all Hamas has got, aside from the hostages which pro-Palestinians keep forgetting about.

The two strands that I see as key for children in Gaza is dealing with the PTSD/trauma that they carry (I think a study in the first year of the war said over 90% of children show signs of PTSD) and then securing them an education that promotes peace alongside learning. Neither of these objectives are possible with Hamas in power. So, as I’ve said before , I fully support the removal of Hamas from Gaza. I also don’t condone the PA education system in the WB which also openly teaches antisemitism and extremist ideology.

I actually think Israeli children suffer from a similar combo in terms of PTSD/generational or collective trauma and an education that promotes peace (specifically settler children and what is basically segregation in schools in Israel). Both education system need to be reviewed if there’s a path forward. The Palestinian situation is more urgent because they actively promote extremism where as I believe in Israel there is more of an undercurrent of racism that feeds into the problems between the two sides (apart from the settler side of things - that is also straight violent extremism and must be stopped).

So I’m not saying that Palestinians can be deradicalised or protected from radicalism with Hamas in charge. They have to go. But I do think Israel can make a difference to how things proceed once Hamas are gone in Gaza. If Israel assume children are destined for extremism and treat them like terrorist, it is doing groups like Hamas a huge favour. If Israel, alongside a new leadership in Gaza, supported traumatised families and children and worked together on a curriculum that strived for peace and an education system focused on equality, it could make such a difference. I’m not saying radical Islam suddenly disappears or the threat to Israel goes away. But it might save some lives (Palestinian and, in the longer term, Israeli)

The horror of the atrocities inflicted on Israelis is incomprehensible. I can’t even begin to understand the collective trauma they must feel and the need to retaliate. It’s hard to accept that humans are capable of such horrendous acts and delight in them. As I’ve said before, some terrorists are just psychopaths who use a cause to fulfil their own sick desires. Others are sadly just very angry humans who have been twisted to see the world in a totally different way. It’s shocking and uncomfortable that we are the same but so different. I think adults who are capable of doing those things are unlikely to change with all the interventions out there BUT I don’t know enough to assert that as fact. I know some things about reformed adults on the extreme right who have done horribly violent things but radical Islam is different in that people are willing to die for their beliefs. I do believe, however, that children, especially young children have much more of a chance to change their world view with the right intervention and support. As I said above, in Gaza that includes the removal of Hamas and an education system that promotes peace. It also includes being treated as equal by Israel because they cannot be punished for the decisions of adults. They cannot be held accountable for violence they never took part in. They are victim of Hamas and of Israel. Hamas must go. So that leaves Israel to look out for them until a new government is in place. If no one looks out for them, you can guarantee Hamas or whatever comes next will be ready and waiting for traumatised or orphaned children to sign up because at least they make them feel like they belong.

Out of interest, do any of your theories re Hind have any sort of evidence or expert input/analysis/backing? You have shared a fair number of X links on here but we know that’s rife with misinformation and can become a real echo chamber if you show interest in certain narratives. So where are you getting your info from? I feel like I’m missing out on a lot of important info but I can’t work out where you’re getting it from.

Good God, the lies, denial and propaganda in the face of this genocide and the brutal massacre of innocent people displaced, in camps and utterly desperate is an overwhelming departure from humanity.

So many useless words. Do people not realise that footage on social media and the incredible journalists in Gaza reveal the devastating truth every single day.

Shocking volume of words words words by posters on here can never disguise that.

Hind Rajab 💔

335 bullets the IDF fired.

They are psychotic demons. Evil. Pure evil.

They are fighting a losing battle.

I visited a hospital children's ward recently and one area had flags of lots of countries. Guess which countries flag they didn't have? Russia and Israel. I did see the flag of Palestine 🇵🇸 hanged up. It would have been insulting to the patients to have the flag of Israel - a country that has and is continuing to murder thousands of innocent children.

Its fucking bonkers isn't it. This area and some posters views on here, are so far moved from reality.

What a disgusting post. Did Palestinians not murder children and babies on 7 October & subsequently?

Disgusting? That's what you find disgusting? What's disgusting is how many thousands and thousands of children Israel has killed, maimed and injured.

You don't find the deaths of Kfir and Ariel Bibas disgusting?