A famine has been declared in Gaza city

[SaltAirAndTheRust]

https://news.sky.com/story/gaza-latest-war-israel-city-ceasefire-hamas-13415481

Meanwhile, up to 80,000 troops are being prepared to start an offensive there. There are no longer any words

When the UN can't even describe Hamas as terrorists, where else do you go from there!

You were literally caught sharing fake hacked Instagram accounts of Israeli propaganda a few days ago (videos of ‘restaurants’ in Gaza- which were proven to be literal rubble).

Yup - are you sure of your facts this time Tom or will the UN be quietly backtracking in a few days.

Admitting that the methodology was changed just for this war. Which in no way denies that there is a humanitarian crisis in Gaza.

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It makes sense why they can’t if you consider that they have worked alongside Hamas government for a long time & even employed Hamas supporters.

All the while purporting to be an impartial source of information about what is happening in Gaza.

BS. Netanyahu wants to stay out of jail. The longer he can keep this going, the better for him.

https://www.science.org/content/article/international-hunger-watchdog-faces-political-attacks-over-gaza-famine-declaration

The crisis in Gaza is now officially a famine, according to a well-respected global expert body on food insecurity. But even before the Integrated Food Security Phase Classification (IPC) group released two reports today, the Israeli military and other critics attacked the science underlying the assessments, arguing that IPC changed the goalposts to make declaring a famine easier.
IPC does not comment publicly on political issues, but independent food security experts and people close to the process say those assertions are false. Changes to IPC’s assessments that critics are complaining about were made 6 years ago, long before the start of the latest Israel-Hamas war, they point out.

@Gloriia

I think I will dig out the Guardian article where Hamas implored the UK to remove it from its list of terrorists. We know the Guardian is the go to source for MN.

The goalposts will be shifted again

It was changed six years ago.

As usual, we agree and disagree! I think the UN were in Gaza to help its people. They had to tick boxes and communicate with the Hamas government in order to do their job. I don’t think that automatically means there are bias towards Hamas. I think it means they have a really good understanding of life in Gaza and what’s happening to Palestinians.

I can see them being very passionate about the Palestinian people’s fate. I personally don’t think this necessarily means they, as an org or when reporting on Gaza, are bias towards Hamas or promoting Hamas’s narrative for Hamas. I think as a humanitarian org they are reliable when it comes to analysing the wellbeing of people.

All opinion so understand why people might be more wary of the U.N. but I think the volume of evidence alongside the UN report is hard to ignore.

Ridiculous argument. The war won’t go on forever & Netanyahu will be investigated once it ends. To think anyone would unnecessarily prolong a war of this magnitude just to delay potential jail time is extremely simplistic.

No it isn’t. Self-serving bastard who doesn’t give a shit about the hostages.

I agree with your first paragraph that it doesn’t automatically mean they are biased towards Hamas. But it’s highly likely they are biased towards a pro Palestinian/anti Israel perspective.

At the very least their historic ties with the Hamas government poses the question - are they as neutral as many people assume them to be? If they are passionate towards the Palestinian people’s fate ( which yes, I agree many would be while working amongst them delivering aid) then doesn’t that presuppose they already would have developed some anti Israel sentiment before 7/10?

What we are really lacking in this conflict is unbiased sources of information. It’s just wrong to me when I see people assuming the UN are unbiased. I’m not convinced we are getting any unbiased information from any source at the moment.

A statement, oozing academic authority 🙄 Exactly the emotional rhetoric, I refer to.

Multiple Israeli government officials have said they are focussed on the complete decimation of Palestine. How does that help the hostages?

Your opinion.

Just because Netanyahu has to consider the bigger picture re potential future hostages as well as the current ones (if he doesn’t get rid of Hamas in Gaza) that does not show he doesn’t “give a shit” about the current hostages.

No country is more protective of their citizens than Israel. That’s why when 7/10 happened it was obvious to everyone ( apart from Hamas & their supporters apparently) that the gates of Hell would open in response.

That decimation could have happened in the onset of 7/10. Why didn't it?

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@mumsnet you are very quick to delete some posts who call out the repeated offenders on these threads and never the offensive posters

This is disgraceful

It happens time after time
It really is disgusting

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Don’t answer a question with a question.

How does the total decimation of Palestine aid the hostages?

The UN literally voted against condemning Hamas for the October 7th massacre. If people think it’s unbiased they should do some googling.

Multiple (all) Hamas have said they are focused on the complete destruction of Israel. How does that help the Palestinian people?

I did not know that. What did they think would be an appropriate reaction, a slap on the wrist?