How is forced starvation allowed?

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The top story in the BBC right now is the starvation of Gazans by Israel. The images are horrifying and not dissimilar to seeing those images of concentration camps in Nazi Germany. I cried seeing those and am crying now. I am sure someone will claim antisemitism because of this statement, but anyone looking at these images of starving children would agree.

How is this still going on? I feel like we are watching a genocide take place that the world has turning a blind eye to. The daily shooting by Israel of people trying to get aid too is just barbaric. If nothing is being done to stop this, what is the next horror that will unfold in the world that people will just accept?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce9xkx7vnmxo

I totally agree. X used to be a brilliant source for access to all sorts of peple, news good writing. Less so now, but still useful. As long as you have the skills to evaluate the reliability of posts there is absolutely nothing wrong with it. X is not a source as such anyway. Its a platform for sources.

I didn’t say he represented the Arab world. I said his was A view from the Arab world which I thought was very succinct and surprising to me tbh.

Why are you deliberately distorting what I said?

Apologies, I misquoted you from another post.

Even Bob Geldof has weighed in and said Netanyahu is a liar, the IDF are liars and they are deliberately starving Palestinians.

https://news.sky.com/story/bob-geldof-accuses-israeli-authorities-of-lying-about-starvation-in-gaza-13402178

The singer then added: "They're lying. [Benjamin] Netanyahu lies, is a liar. The IDF are lying. They're dangling food in front of starving, panicked, exhausted mothers.
"And while they arrive to accept the tiny amount of food that this sort of set up pantomime outfit, the Gaza Humanitarian Front, I would call it, as they dangle it, then they're shot wantonly.

The GHF organised a women's only aid day but that also didn't stop the IDF shooting and killing women aid seekers.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c74z4gy5g31o

I agree it can provide you with access to a range of sources but as you say, it has become much less useful as the trustworthy seem few and far between nowadays. I take back my initial comment and agree that as a platform it can connect you to reliable sources but is much more likely nowadays to trap you in an echo chamber of which ever side you fall on. Hence why I think it’s better to stay away from X’s algorithms and put in a little more work to find a range of sources that create a more balanced picture of what is going on.

Thank you.

Stop peddling your ridiculous conspiracy theory that Palestinians are starving themselves and their families.🙄

Looks like even Israeli military officials are speaking out against the "its Hamas and/or the UN's fault" narrative.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/26/world/middleeast/hamas-un-aid-theft.html?unlocked_article_code=1.ZU8.zR1x.cpLjibz4NtZ0&smid=re-share

Amjad Taha - some thought provoking things on his twitter feed.
Some even more thought provoking comments under his you tube vids.

looked him up. Really can’t see how anything he says would justify forced starvation. What am I missing?

@Flumpflimpo

"Hamas was the aggressor in this wave of the conflict"

"That is absolutel bullshit @SharonEllis and you know it.
Hamas attacked Israel for two days, october 7th and October 8th in 2023.
In retaliation, Israel have been attacking and bombing Gaza for one year and a half..
If one side attacks for two days, and the otjrr side attacks for a year and a half, which side is more of the aggressor?
Israel is."

So Japan attacked US for 1 hour 15 minutes at Pearl Harbour. The USA then responded with a war lasting 3 years and 10 months.

According to your logic would you say that the US was the oppressor against Japan.

I think this comment highlights really well the lens of oppressor and oppressed from the left. In economics the workers are seen as the oppressed and the business owners the oppressors even if the workers are much better off than they were before they were employed, simply because the owner is making more money than the workers (despite taking the financial risk of setting up the company).

In wars and conflicts the oppressor is always whichever side is stronger (especially if they are Western and even more so if they are American) and the oppressed is always the losing or weaker side. How the conflict actually started is irrelevant through this left wing lens.

I know, its ridiculous. I mean obviously Hamas was the aggressor, they declared war on Israel effectively and said they would keep attacking them. Israel fought back. Obviously Israel has fought back proportionately harder and has bigger capabilities. Thst doesn't change the original fact.

Japan was the aggressor because they started it in the same way as Hamas were the aggressor when they started this current war.

You then change the word to “oppressor” which has a different meaning. I would agree that the Palestinian people are being oppressed by the Israeli government and the IDF but Hamas were still the aggressors on 7/10.

Left wing lens??? You do realise that people across the political spectrum, here and in other countries are speaking out against the brutality the IDF is using in Gaza?
But no, it doesn't suit your right wing lens does it....

Once again we come back to "Hamas attacked first, we can then do as we want.... including using food aid as a weapon of war" when your cheerleader is Donald Trump, you can be sure you're in the wrong.

Even that ignores the fact the "conflict" started long before 7/10, though once again, the 'right like to forget about that.

People across the world can see that the Israeli govt is using Collective punishment on Gazans and hopefully the International Courts will call it what it is: War Crimes and the people responsible, inc Netanyahu in court.

Wtaf?!

And just as predicted, Israel suddenly can do something about the situation - the world is shocked by images of dying children, the Israeli govt PR machine freaks out and now they can ‘open aid corridors’.

“Israel says it will implement humanitarian corridors to enable the safe movement of UN convoys in Gaza.”

“The United Arab Emirates (UAE) says it will resume air drops of aid into Gaza immediately - after Israel said it would allow foreign countries to drop supplies into the Strip.”

To anyone who said the famine was solely Hamas’s doing, does any of this impact your views?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/ckg42k37e2pt

They're just pissing about and playing for time. The more Palestinians that die, the easier it will be for israel to deal with what's left. Hence this endless change in behaviour and rhetoric every few days.

Despicable.

@PinkBobby it doesn't change my view because despite being pro Israel, I never said the famine was solely Hamas’s doing.

I hold Hamas ultimately responsible for the hell unleashed on their own people by their decision to massacre and kidnap Israeli citizens on 7/10.

But obviously (to most people) the Israel government also need to take responsibility for their decision to restrict humanitarian aid coming into Gaza. This was not something I supported and I'm relieved they have now recognised the need to facilitate more aid coming in.

Thank you for commenting - you’re the first pro Israel person I’ve seen who has acknowledged that Israel are at least partly to blame for the current famine situation and that is refreshing.

@Kakeandkake The problem with quoting Bob Geldof is that he isn't a particularly reliable source (despite the good work he did with Live Aid).

The Sky news article you posted reports that Bob Geldof said 1,000 children or people have died of starvation this month.

Hamas said the total number of people who have died from a lack of food reached 127 on Friday.

Thinking about it - that was a rare propaganda fail from Hamas wasn't it? They should have allowed people to carry on creating their own ideas about how many Gazans had died of starvation. Because for those that want to demonise Israel, the fantasy was always likely to exceed the reality.

Yes Bob geldof is just a random punter expressing his condemnation of what’s happening and getting the number of deaths wrong. Unfortunately the numbers dying will increase to 1000 soon enough.

Not just "wrong" but crazily wrong - the difference between 127 in total and 1000 this month alone. He is someone that people will listen to because of who he is.

I sincerely hope that the numbers dying from lack of food does not reach 1000.

I'm not naively thinking there will be no more deaths from malnutrition though. Obviously, the lack of good quality food has hit vulnerable people hard especially children and babies needing special formula milk.