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More words from the UK and 26 others

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PaxAeterna · 22/07/2025 00:27

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g814gy2e7o.amp

More words, strong words but just words none the less.

We condemn the drip feeding of aid and the inhumane killing of civilians, including children, seeking to meet their most basic needs of water and food. It is horrifying that over 800 Palestinians have been killed while seeking aid.

What gets me is the absolutely obnoxious response from Israel and the US

Israel say it is is disconnected from reality and the US said it was disgusting

Palestinians carry bags of flour from a UN aid convoy that crossed into northern Gaza on 20 July 2025

Gaza: UK and 27 other nations condemn Israel over civilian suffering - BBC News

Israel rejects a joint statement which says the suffering of civilians has "reached new depths".

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g814gy2e7o.amp

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Stripes56 · 22/07/2025 00:49

I heard an Israeli representative on radio proudly say the GHF had given out 52,000,000 meals. I worked out that’s equivalent to less than half a meal a day over the last 7 weeks. Not really something to brag about!

FriggingInsomnia · 22/07/2025 02:23

Stripes56 · 22/07/2025 00:49

I heard an Israeli representative on radio proudly say the GHF had given out 52,000,000 meals. I worked out that’s equivalent to less than half a meal a day over the last 7 weeks. Not really something to brag about!

They have not yet reached capacity to feed all Gazans and were clear about that from that the start.

How many Gazans have the UN and the other NGOs fed from the tens of thousands of pallets left sitting inside Gaza?

https://x.com/GHFUpdates/status/1947313144088457550

https://x.com/GHFUpdates/status/1947313144088457550

FriggingInsomnia · 22/07/2025 02:39

Look what happened when Gazans went to get UN aid:

https://x.com/imshin/status/1947200401704624545

https://x.com/imshin/status/1947200401704624545

mids2019 · 22/07/2025 06:49

The UN have an agenda not to be sidelined with aid provision despite control of UN aid by Hamas ultimately which is a funding stream for them. Hamas hate the GHF as it removes money and influence from them and I would not be surprised if they would send suicide bombers to such sites to prevent them functioning hence a very twitchy Israeli military.

Twiglets1 · 22/07/2025 08:10

Stripes56 · 22/07/2025 00:49

I heard an Israeli representative on radio proudly say the GHF had given out 52,000,000 meals. I worked out that’s equivalent to less than half a meal a day over the last 7 weeks. Not really something to brag about!

They are not the only organisation giving out aid in Gaza. The world food programme is still operating there for example.

I'm not trying to say the GHF shouldn't be giving out more food or have more centres open - in my opinion they should. But still, Gazans don't solely rely on them for supplies.

smallglassbottle · 22/07/2025 08:18

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Alexandra2001 · 22/07/2025 08:20

Many countries are starting to feel that Israel may indeed be committing Genocide/War crimes and that will be the opinion of the courts, they now want to make sure they can turn around and say:

"We made fine speeches, we did all we could...."

..but actually, they are complicit in the actions of the IDF in Gaza & have supported the Netanyahu Govt.

Nothing justifies the mass killing of Gazans for what i believe is revenge/collective punishment for the terrorist attacks of 7th October, with the ultimate aim of depopulating Gaza, Katz's plan hasn't gone away.

Alexandra2001 · 22/07/2025 08:24

Twiglets1 · 22/07/2025 08:10

They are not the only organisation giving out aid in Gaza. The world food programme is still operating there for example.

I'm not trying to say the GHF shouldn't be giving out more food or have more centres open - in my opinion they should. But still, Gazans don't solely rely on them for supplies.

Just as well, former contractors, IDF soldiers & leading Western Doctors who have seen the victims, say the "game" is to shoot different body parts of people queuing for food, Stomachs on Monday, Heads on Tuesday and Genitals on Wednesday etc.

So its starvation vs being shot for fun.

....but October 7th!!

FriggingInsomnia · 22/07/2025 08:24

Ridiculous hyperbole again.

Why don’t you go protest for Hamas to disarm, surrender and release the hostages if you care so much about Palestinians @smallglassbottle and @Alexandra2001.

Whatsinanamehey · 22/07/2025 08:27

It's really just appalling.

Israel will not be bothered in the least that they are being condemned for their inhumane conduct as long as they have US support.

Today the French FM again pushed for independant journalists to be allowed into Gaza to 'bear witness'

smallglassbottle · 22/07/2025 08:28

FriggingInsomnia · 22/07/2025 08:24

Ridiculous hyperbole again.

Why don’t you go protest for Hamas to disarm, surrender and release the hostages if you care so much about Palestinians @smallglassbottle and @Alexandra2001.

Nobody's interested in these propaganda excuses. Things have gone way past this point.

Nobody
Is
Interested

Alexandra2001 · 22/07/2025 08:29

FriggingInsomnia · 22/07/2025 08:24

Ridiculous hyperbole again.

Why don’t you go protest for Hamas to disarm, surrender and release the hostages if you care so much about Palestinians @smallglassbottle and @Alexandra2001.

So as i said the mass murder of Gazans is justified by some.

Unfortunately, the Israeli govt cares not one jot for the hostages.

smallglassbottle · 22/07/2025 08:31

Whatsinanamehey · 22/07/2025 08:27

It's really just appalling.

Israel will not be bothered in the least that they are being condemned for their inhumane conduct as long as they have US support.

Today the French FM again pushed for independant journalists to be allowed into Gaza to 'bear witness'

The us are complicit in war crimes alongside Israel. They are the only ones which can stop this by withdrawing support to israel, but of course they can't do that.

Twiglets1 · 22/07/2025 08:33

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No I'm not happy civilians in Gaza are hungry or if they are finding it hard to access water.

No one has said or implied they want to see civilian deaths.

Twiglets1 · 22/07/2025 08:35

Alexandra2001 · 22/07/2025 08:24

Just as well, former contractors, IDF soldiers & leading Western Doctors who have seen the victims, say the "game" is to shoot different body parts of people queuing for food, Stomachs on Monday, Heads on Tuesday and Genitals on Wednesday etc.

So its starvation vs being shot for fun.

....but October 7th!!

Former contractors who lost their job said it so arguably they have a reason to lie. Doctors who have seen the shots only know where the shots are not who fired them and Hamas have the same guns.

Doctors don't know the truth of exactly what occurred any more than we do.

Dangermoo · 22/07/2025 08:40

FriggingInsomnia · 22/07/2025 02:39

Look what happened when Gazans went to get UN aid:

https://x.com/imshin/status/1947200401704624545

Yep, that's the reality. A business enterprise but it's all the fault of Israel.

Dangermoo · 22/07/2025 08:42

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Did you watch the video about their own people stealing from Gazans? Are YOU happy with that? Wake up.

Dangermoo · 22/07/2025 08:46

FriggingInsomnia · 22/07/2025 08:24

Ridiculous hyperbole again.

Why don’t you go protest for Hamas to disarm, surrender and release the hostages if you care so much about Palestinians @smallglassbottle and @Alexandra2001.

That's not exciting enough. One poster said it's boring to suggest releasing the hostages will end this war. Neither of the posters quoted, said that, I will add.

Alexandra2001 · 22/07/2025 08:47

Twiglets1 · 22/07/2025 08:35

Former contractors who lost their job said it so arguably they have a reason to lie. Doctors who have seen the shots only know where the shots are not who fired them and Hamas have the same guns.

Doctors don't know the truth of exactly what occurred any more than we do.

The former contractors and IDF soldiers backed up what the Doctors are saying, supported by eye witnesses & why would they make up things? for what purpose?

Israel Govt could of course allow in journalists?

smallglassbottle · 22/07/2025 08:50

Dangermoo · 22/07/2025 08:42

Did you watch the video about their own people stealing from Gazans? Are YOU happy with that? Wake up.

Which is why aid should be distributed properly, which it isn't being.

Alexandra2001 · 22/07/2025 08:53

Dangermoo · 22/07/2025 08:42

Did you watch the video about their own people stealing from Gazans? Are YOU happy with that? Wake up.

Funny when a unsubstantiated video emerges of a man in a sports shoe shop says Gazans profiteering, is taken as gospel, when an IDF soldier whistleblows on mass murder... its all lies.....

Not saying there isn't a black market, there will be, just as there was during WW2

BUT that is a totally separate and minor issue compared to refusing to let in any food at all for many weeks and the deliberate targeting of civilians or the aim to build a camp for 1m Gazans and wanting to remove Palestinians from Gaza.

Dangermoo · 22/07/2025 09:03

Alexandra2001 · 22/07/2025 08:53

Funny when a unsubstantiated video emerges of a man in a sports shoe shop says Gazans profiteering, is taken as gospel, when an IDF soldier whistleblows on mass murder... its all lies.....

Not saying there isn't a black market, there will be, just as there was during WW2

BUT that is a totally separate and minor issue compared to refusing to let in any food at all for many weeks and the deliberate targeting of civilians or the aim to build a camp for 1m Gazans and wanting to remove Palestinians from Gaza.

Oh, of course. One man in a shoe shop, who is actually out there, knows less than you. Hamas and Palestinians engineer the suffering of Gazans to facilitate their mission. Of course it's one big black market - innocent Palestinians - are fucked over by Hamas and its supporters. They are used as pawns but not by Israel. Tug at the heartstrings by depicting children being killed looking for food and water. The reality isn't the one you're seeing.

Alexandra2001 · 22/07/2025 09:17

Dangermoo · 22/07/2025 09:03

Oh, of course. One man in a shoe shop, who is actually out there, knows less than you. Hamas and Palestinians engineer the suffering of Gazans to facilitate their mission. Of course it's one big black market - innocent Palestinians - are fucked over by Hamas and its supporters. They are used as pawns but not by Israel. Tug at the heartstrings by depicting children being killed looking for food and water. The reality isn't the one you're seeing.

Eventually, the truth, as in most conflicts will emerge and i believe it will show that the Israeli Govt took part in war crimes & deliberately targeted civilians.

Its supporters will have to explain why they dismissed opposing views and supported the Israeli Govt in these.

This is why the UK and others are now trying to distance themselves from the Israeli Govt.

Twiglets1 · 22/07/2025 09:49

Alexandra2001 · 22/07/2025 08:47

The former contractors and IDF soldiers backed up what the Doctors are saying, supported by eye witnesses & why would they make up things? for what purpose?

Israel Govt could of course allow in journalists?

But why do you assume the doctors know what happened, they weren't there!

They are only going by what they are told and they work for a Hamas run health authority. Some of the injured and families of the dead will be Hamas supporters. I don't necessarily think the doctors are lying although some of them could be for all we know. But if they weren't there, it's hearsay.

Twiglets1 · 22/07/2025 09:52

smallglassbottle · 22/07/2025 08:50

Which is why aid should be distributed properly, which it isn't being.

Agreed the current system leaves a lot to be desired

But so did the old system where aid equally wasn't being distributed properly as much of it ended up in Hamas hands giving them an income stream.