Why do you get all the knobs at Glastonbury?

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c33514nryy1o

Kneecap and now this.....There are some absolute fits playing at Glastonbury and I am sure there are some virtue signalling loons cheering this.

Hope turnpike throw the book at them.

What a dreadful thing, poor lad. There is probably no way to reassure him after such a terrible atrocity, perpetrated on young people at a music festival. I don't know how you would begin to explain this, or to talk to him about it. 💐

Thats a POV to take but then don't be surprised when there are more attacks, more hostages, more killing... more killing by the IDF... and so the cycle goes on, your approach will see far more Israeli deaths and probably no hostages released alive,

Anyone who truly values Jewish life and a secure Israeli state, should want the killing to stop and a genuine negotiated peace, Israel has been using force, often with justification, to get its own way since 1948, its achieved what exactly?

Are you saying that Israel doesn’t have the right to defend itself in any way and that Jewish children don’t have the right to feel scared?

Yeah, I mean what have actual hate crimes in the UK got to do with 'death to the IDF' anyway, ones against people who have a protected characteristic, the others against a foreign army who make games out of killing starving people. Its easy know which one the pro Israel 'baying hate mob', to steal a phrase, is worked up about.

I had to refamiliarise myself with halal practices. What a joy to read ( obviously not).

Another condemnation for me against the barbarism that is Islam. A very recent article explained that many restaurants in the UK are using halal meat and don't even need to tell customers of such.

You chose a username referencing the Cleveland Elementary School shooting, any particular reason?

Is this meant for me? I actually believe 100% that Israel have the right to defend themselves from the terrorist group Hamas. Never negotiate with terrorists, because they’ll always be back to commit more terrorist acts. That’s who they are.

It was, but I misread your post, apologies.

Well if your argument is that the focus should only be on issues in the UK then why are you going on about the IDF? It’s almost like there is no logic or intelligence to your position

Well I'm being told to stay on topic and apparently the topic is handwringing over the poor IDF, oh and halal meat and Muslims for some reason.

Nothing. I thought that was clear. This thread is about a specific, recent high profile incident with a literal baying mob at a mainstream music festival.

I'm a full supporter of the Palestinian people and the terrible genocide at the hands of the Israeli regime but it does erk me a little when people like kneecap and bob vylan use there plight as a publicity leg up . Let's face it , kneecap openly glamorise their use of cocaine ignoring the fact that thousands of children die in the production and transportation of this nasty drug . And all the middle class Glastonbury goes all shouting ' free palistine ' won't give a stuff when they are back home on Monday.

It's that continual creep of anti senitism and hate speech against Jews being normalised. I am glad Galstonbury apologised and I am sure the organisers were a little disingenuous about allowing the politics of the middle East into what should be a life affirming event.

The f%wit who made those comments is now basking in the controversy presumably because they were a bit shi t musically and why not get some fame for being a dick?

It just seemed as others have not banning kneecap seemed to give the impression anything was allowed so there was a certain inevitability about this. The deal thing is that there was great music at the festival and to have this year marred in such a way is really disappointing. Have to say this is the epitomy of how the left in politics has been somehow pulled in a direction support Islamist terrorism. People need to wake up.

Pages of concern about "death to IDF" shouted at a festival. Never a thing said by some about their war crimes it's a funny old world. No idea why anyone expects people to respect them.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/after-a-month-deadly-shootings-near-gaza-aid-sites-still-a-near-daily-menace/

Let's face it , kneecap openly glamorise their use of cocaine ignoring the fact that thousands of children die in the production and transportation of this nasty drug .

You'll need to mention all the celebrities and rock stars glamorising drug use to balance this. It will be a very long post. Doesn't condone it but c'mon

@Insanityisnotastrategy Yup because like I said some people care more about a foreign kiddie maiming army than they do their own citizens. Its like there may be a connection there between people defending and caring about a foreign army currently engaged in the mass slaughter of Muslims and the weird posts about Halal meat and being afraid of Muslims taking over. I don't know, all I know is it's definitely not because people care about hate crimes, that's been made clear.

Of course , that goes without saying but the subject was about what happened at Glastonbury , and kneecap and Bob vylan have been very vocal about the deaths of children . I was at the march in London last weekend and listened to some fantastic people who have seen the truth . Never been a fan of palma faith but her speech brought tears to my eyes

Kneecap’s event at Glastonbury was expected to be highly political. The crowd was at capacity- 30,000 (usual capacity for the stage) and had to closed 45 min before the band played.

People knew exactly what to expect. There were multiple Palestinian flags flying- brought in anticipation.

As one of band said- there is a generation of youngsters who have seen events from Gaza live streamed through their phones and there is massive interest in this.
https://news.sky.com/story/kneecap-rapper-mo-chara-says-hes-a-free-man-as-band-draw-huge-glastonbury-crowd-13389645

There event in Coachella was also similarly popular.

Yep this

Presenter Trevor Phillips said: “Get your own house in order? That’s pretty tough language.”
But Streeting replied: “Well, when I saw the scenes of the village of Taybeh set on fire this week, one of many examples of settler violence where the Israeli authorities look the other way, I do think that’s serious.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/get-your-own-house-in-order-wes-streeting-condemns-israel-over-bob-vylan-criticism_uk_6860f2dae4b08e0b4a73e1f9

If you are concerned about the level of civilian death in Gaza what do you think being a virtue signalling celeb spouting hate speech will acheive?

The British government has already expressed its concern at the scale of civilian death and as Was Steeting stated solving the most intractable conflict on earth is hardly trivial and let's face it the US holds the cards here.

This post very much resonates with me, also as a Jewish person living in the UK. I agree with everything that you said, and you say it much more eIoquently than I would be able to do. I actively avoid telling people I am Jewish because because we are expected to be held accountable for all actions of Israel.

@Zombiefluff it's untrue that Jewish people who say that support Israel don't say that they don't support all actions. Jewish people tend to be forced into a position of defensiveness, as most of us are, at heart, Zionists (in the true sense of the word, that Jewish people deserve a state of their own in their ancestral homeland of Israel. This does not equate to kicking out the Palestinians or supporting Netanyahu or settlements in the West Bank). There is very little understanding of the nuances of how Jews in the UK feel about Israel and the conflict. This is based on an extensive survey that was done last year and gives some insight into this: https://www.jpr.org.uk/reports/year-after-october-7-british-jewish-views-israel-antisemitism-and-jewish-life

@MissAndrey you have no right to tell Jewish people that they are feeling sorry for themselves because they are feeling unsafe. A Jewish person feeling unsafe in their home country does not mean that same Jewish person doesn't have sympathy for what is happening to Palestinians in Gaza. I think you will find that most do have sympathy.

Can some of the posters genuinely not empathise with how terrifying it must feel as a young Jewish person standing in a crowd at a music festival hearing 'death to the IDF' (whatever their personal views on Israel). Can you imagine standing in a crowd of people chanting 'death to the British army' and not feeling 'othered' and incredibly isolated, whatever your views on this government.

Was Streeting? Is that short for Wazzock?

If you are concerned about the level of civilian death in Gaza what do you think being a virtue signalling celeb spouting hate speech will acheive?

Exposure of the issue. I am not condoning what he did I just can't feel any sympathy for the IDF in this scenario and I'm with Streeting, the Israeli government have said worse and done worse so they can stop with their judgements

You don't have to like him to agree with him.

Israeli sovereignty is just about the government. It doesn't mean ethnic cleansing or even oppression of Arabs. Case in point the two plus million Israeli Arabs living freely, as equal citizens, and as a group more prosperous than any other Arabs in the Middle East.

Conversely, in any areas controlled by either the PA or Hamas, not a single Jew is even allowed to live their and own land.

Hence why Likkud slogan is merely about sovereignty and under which flag the entire population will reside, whereas the Palestinian chant is about at the very least about cleansing the area of every Jew.