What did you do during the genocide in Gaza?

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This is a brilliant article.

This will be taught in schools one day and our grandkids will ask us but what did you do when you knew this was happening?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/may/22/israel-gaza-genocide

Thanks for sharing your lived experience of this. I very much doubt that @mids2019 or @SigmundinaCafe gave much attention to the civilian death toll at the time.

You have NO evidence to say that!

Where did they say it was fine to kill a lot of civilians?

Since when have you needed evidence for anything?! You and many others here jump to the conclusion that posters here only care about Palestinian children's deaths and that you 'all know why' without any evidence at all that people are cool with all other children being blown to pieces and starved.

It’s actually part of my job, so yes I was closely monitoring the situation as it was unfolding.

Also “lived experience” is a tautology. The word "experience" by definition already implies something that is lived through. So adding "lived" in front of it is totally redundant - like saying "wet water".

None of that excuses using starvation as a means to force people into a certain area and then make their lives so miserable, they leave and are scattered around the middle east at best, further afield or in refugee camps at worst.

The vast majority of Palestinians in Gaza are not involved in terrorism and led reasonable lives prior to 7th October.

No one is saying Hams are not evil people & do terrible things but it is the ordinary Palestinians who are suffering not the terrorists.

Then why use this comparison, when you knew that a lower, but still unacceptably high and widely criticised number of civilians died.

It is a poor argument and after reading it I still think Israel should stop killing people.

Bernie Sanders had this to say yesterday ”I am Jewish, I detest antisemitism, as I hope everybody does. It's a horribly destructive ideology. But to be critical of Netanyahu's right wing extremist government who have killed some 53,000 people in Gaza, already, mostly women and children, that is not antisemitic, that is taking on an extremist, ugly government that is doing terrible things."

Do you think that Afghanistan should allow women to speak in public? Do you think that Syria should stop slaughtering Druze families? Do you think that the USA should ban guns and allow abortion? Do you think that terrorists should continue driving vehicles into crowds? Do you think that Islam should stop forceably occupying 55 previously diverse countries? Do you think that Yemen should stop shooting missiles into highly populated civilian cities? Do you think that Palestinians should release the 55 hostages?

You say “it is the ordinary Palestinians who are suffering not the terrorists” but to be fair the Hamas terrorists are suffering too. Note the Hamas leadership being picked off one by one (the ones that were living in Gaza, anyway).

Many thousands of Hamas are dead now so I guess you could say they suffered.

@Jujujudo What is your point?

Of course people are saddened by Civil an death in war. War by definition is unpleasant.

However accusing a country of genocide when it is (a) unproven (b) against a people whose ancestors most unambiguously suffered a genocide is wrong. The people that most benefit from the genocide narrative are of course Hamas who as part of their propaganda mission is to steer foreign opinion against Israel and to try and airbrush October 7th out of history by equating a heinous terrorist atrocity to warfare.

The Israelis = genocidal sociopaths is simply a narrative that needs to be quashed for the simple reason while no one here in reality can influence the war (unless Trump and Netanyahu are on mumsnet) such a harmful labelling will result in a toxic atmosphere for Jews world wide and we are seeing the consequences. Gradually as are seeing display of Jewish faith as something of a risk and that is deeply wrong.

A befitting article for this thread.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/may/24/gaza-children-bombed-starved-watch-society

Seriously? You can’t work it out?

A war? A highly sophisticated and advanced military decimating civilian infrastructure? It's a live-streamed genocide.

Obviously many have been killed, but are they dead in their 1000s? they seem to have plenty of weapons, plenty of numbers and you'd have thought if they were suffering, they'd seek a ceasefire?

No, to me, many are under ground, away from the devastation inflicted on the general population?

I also doubt they are starving either.

Yes Hamas are dead in their thousands.

Though I agree with you it’s very unlikely the live ones are starving since they had the power to stockpile food as well as weapons.

It was an interesting article above but it again boils down to 'righteous anger' and the question then becomes of that anger? For a minority the anger is channelled against Jews, any News will do. Gal Gadot filming in London, well let's shout at her, Jewish couple visiting a museum in Wahington, shout free Paelsrine and shoot. Israel in the Eurovision with an October 7th survivor well let's unleash our righteous anger at her....

For a middle class journalist it you can use a newspaper to articulate your 'moral outrage' but it seems the real victims in our society will continue to be Jews who are the soft target for those that feel impassioned about these things.

There is also that implicit suggestion that somehow if you aren't virtue signalling your anger at the so called genocide it is somehow your fault as you are standing by. For a lot of people there will obviously be sadness but a clear headed acceptance that this is a complex war brought on by a terrorist atrocity.

Already done

Whatever.

It's possible to recognise that this is a complex war, triggered by a terrorist atrocity, and to utterly condemn the abhorrent attacks on innocent Jewish people who have nothing to do with that war AND to simultaneously feel anger about the atrocities that the Israeli government is currently perpetrating in Gaza. It isn't a zero sum game.

What Hamas did on October 7th was despicable. However, what Netanyahu is doing now is also despicable. Two wrongs don't make a right.

There is nothing comparable to the situation in Gaza. This is antisemitism and very close to holocaust denial.

You don't know that at all, Israel hasn't a clue who it is bombing/shelling or shooting, its indiscriminate.
They even gunned down their hostages a while back.

But if you re right, why is Israel continuing to kill people in their '000s? another family of wiped out today, the mother is a medic in a nr by hospital, her husband was one of the injured she had to treat, knowing her children were dead....

What Israel is doing is, imho far worse than what Putin is doing in Ukraine.