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Conflict in the Middle East

Why don't Hamas just release all the hostages?

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springbabydays · 18/05/2025 06:43

First time wading in here but reading this morning's developments, it says Hamas have offered to release 9 hostages in exchange for a 60 day truce and some prisoners.

Why not release all hostages to end the war?

What's in it for them to prolong this? They are clearly not going to 'beat' Israel.

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Twiglets1 · 18/05/2025 11:45

Personally I think Hamas should have admitted defeat and released all the hostages ages ago.

They committed a massacre on October 7th 2023 hoping to achieve a wave of violence against the Israeli people supported by other, stronger nations like Iran helping them to do the job. It hasn't worked out well for them and instead it is their civilians who are getting killed and everything destroyed.

I know there are new talks going on now between Hamas and Israel. I really hope that an agreement can be reached to release hostages, allow humanitarian aid back into Gaza immediately and for Hamas to leave Gaza.

quantumbutterfly · 18/05/2025 11:47

Jollyjoy · 18/05/2025 07:28

Long prior to Oct 7th, Israel were occupying Palestinian land and slowly trying to push them out. It seems the intention has always been to cleanse the land of Arabs and claim the land for Israel, despite previous deals. Hamas retaliated in that horrific way on Oct 7th, and now there is a perceived excuse for Israeli govt to fully ethnically cleanse the area, like they are doing now.

Hamas don’t release all the hostages because they know that Israel killing and starving them wouldn’t stop, they’ve experienced that for decades. What’s in it for them is that they have a tiny bit of power after being occupied and controlled for so long. The poor hostages, the poor Palestinian people. It’s a totally grim situation.

What percentage of the Israeli population are Arabs?
How many members of the Israeli parliament are Arabs?
What percentage of the Gazan population are Jewish (excluding those held against their will.)?
How many members of the hamas government in Gaza are Jewish?
What do you understand by the phrase ethnic cleansing.

1457bloom · 18/05/2025 11:48

Everyone knows that once the last hostage is handed over, Israel will occupy Gaza and make life hell for any Palestinian left there.

Twiglets1 · 18/05/2025 11:56

1457bloom · 18/05/2025 11:48

Everyone knows that once the last hostage is handed over, Israel will occupy Gaza and make life hell for any Palestinian left there.

Even if true, how is that any different from what is happening now?

Don't you want the war to end? Delaying the inevitable capitulation of Hamas is just leading to more civilians getting killed.

quantumbutterfly · 18/05/2025 11:57

Charmeleon33 · 18/05/2025 07:28

Am I the only one who thinks if Israel really wanted the hostages back they could have gone and got them by about October 9th 2023?

It suits their agenda better for those poor people to be used as an excuse for what they’re doing now.

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If you aren't then you should be. Hostages were kept in tunnels, disguised as civilians, transported in ambulances. Even if Israel had microchip trackers on it's citizens (and actually many foreign nationals were taken) they were held in a hostile urban environment by armed psychopathic terrorists. Not as simple as knocking on the door and asking if they can come out to play.🙄

1457bloom · 18/05/2025 12:30

Twiglets1 · 18/05/2025 11:56

Even if true, how is that any different from what is happening now?

Don't you want the war to end? Delaying the inevitable capitulation of Hamas is just leading to more civilians getting killed.

Why would they give up the only leverage they have?, that would be dumb. The only ones killing civilians are the IAF. Israel Attack Force.

Naddd · 18/05/2025 12:34

JustGoClickLikeALightSwitch · 18/05/2025 06:55

They are a death cult. Putting Israel in a situation where it overreaches, causes disproportionate harm to Gazans (who Hamas don’t give a toss about), images of Gaza being starved, Israel acting inappropriately - it’s great PR for Hamas. If they returned the hostages that would likely stop. It’s not in their interests.

Would it fuck stop. How does killing and maiming thousands help any hostage?

Naddd · 18/05/2025 12:35

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MummytoE · 18/05/2025 12:36

Charmeleon33 · 18/05/2025 07:28

Am I the only one who thinks if Israel really wanted the hostages back they could have gone and got them by about October 9th 2023?

It suits their agenda better for those poor people to be used as an excuse for what they’re doing now.

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No you are definitely not alone in thinking this

MummytoE · 18/05/2025 12:37

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Well said

quantumbutterfly · 18/05/2025 12:39

MummytoE · 18/05/2025 12:36

No you are definitely not alone in thinking this

Yeah I don't know why they didn't just use their space laser.

1457bloom · 18/05/2025 12:40

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Well said

quantumbutterfly · 18/05/2025 12:44

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Which part of @Twiglets1 post is 'fucking stupid'?

quantumbutterfly · 18/05/2025 12:50

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Gaza is a terrorist run state built on the graves of it's own and Israel's children.

Fixed it for you

Twiglets1 · 18/05/2025 13:14

quantumbutterfly · 18/05/2025 12:44

Which part of @Twiglets1 post is 'fucking stupid'?

Don't worry I've just seen it and reported it.

spanishcheese · 18/05/2025 13:49

allamberedover · 18/05/2025 07:37

Didn't I recently read that Hamas had released the last living hostage ?

Last known living American hostage

Standtallandproudalways · 18/05/2025 14:52

It's strange that people actually think Israel could have just wandered into Gaza a few days after October 7th and 'got the hostages back'. The gazans were still celebrating their 'victory ' then. The hostages were disbursed throughout gaza, or in tunnels and many taken by ordinary 'Innocent ' gazans. Please can you return our people, just wouldn't have worked funny enough.

I wished the war was over and tge terrorists surrendered and give up their hostages, sadly they don't really care for their own people.

ScrollingLeaves · 18/05/2025 15:08

PurpleChrayn · 18/05/2025 11:42

Hamas won’t stop until Israel is eradicated. It’s part of their founding manifesto. Unfortunately they aren’t clever enough to realise that they will never succeed. Israel is strongly armed, technologically advanced, and unwilling to be wiped out.

Israel is strongly armed, technologically advanced………..

and currently wiping out Gaza.

CarrieLite · 18/05/2025 15:13

Because they're psychotic, murderous, Nazi psychopaths that absolutely love all the destruction, death and chaos they've created.

housinglife · 18/05/2025 17:00

1457bloom · 18/05/2025 12:30

Why would they give up the only leverage they have?, that would be dumb. The only ones killing civilians are the IAF. Israel Attack Force.

Oh you poor sweet innocent. You obviously haven’t read about the Gazan civilians speaking out against Hamas, who have been murdered by Hamas.

Perhaps you also haven’t heard about all the Israeli Civiilians murdered by Hamas terrorists sent into Israel since October 7th. Or the rockets fired by Hamas into Israel ( and Hezbollah) since October 7th.

You must surely have heard of the civilians murdered by Hamas on October 7th, which makes your comment that only the IDF kills citizens odd. The only explanation I can think of for this is that you somehow don’t think Israeli human lives matter. And the word for that is outrageous racism.

housinglife · 18/05/2025 17:02

MummytoE · 18/05/2025 12:36

No you are definitely not alone in thinking this

Well stupid loves company I guess.

housinglife · 18/05/2025 17:08

1457bloom · 18/05/2025 11:48

Everyone knows that once the last hostage is handed over, Israel will occupy Gaza and make life hell for any Palestinian left there.

Hamas has done a pretty fine job of making Gaza hell for Palestinians by pouring all the money it got over decades into preparing for a October 7th massacre of Israeli civilians, rather than building up Gaza, to provoke a war with Israel it cannot win, and then refusing to protect its own civilians in the tunnels it built. ( Can you name any other country being bombed, that had underground tunnels, such as tubes tunnels, and refused to shelter its civilians in them?). But Hamas instead publicly proclaimed it needs the blood of its citizens to fortify its fighters.

The deliberate mind-blindness to the culpability of Hamas in the suffering of its own citizens is breathtaking.

LoremIpsumCici · 18/05/2025 17:09

springbabydays · 18/05/2025 06:43

First time wading in here but reading this morning's developments, it says Hamas have offered to release 9 hostages in exchange for a 60 day truce and some prisoners.

Why not release all hostages to end the war?

What's in it for them to prolong this? They are clearly not going to 'beat' Israel.

Why not release all hostages to end the war?

That has been tried and failed because Israel doesn’t want to end the war yet.

The ceasefires in November 2023 and in January 2025 were agreements to release all the hostages for an end to the war to be done in phases.

Earlier in the war, in October 2023, Hamas had offered to release all the hostages for an immediate end to the war, but Israel refused and demanded it be done in phases.

Hamas agreed, and so the November 2023 and January 2025 ceasefire phase Is began. Despite Hamas releasing all the hostages required to move on to phase II during both ceasefires, Israel opted to break these ceasefires and renewed the wars.

It is clear that releasing all the hostages will not end the war, other conditions must be met for Israel to end the war.

Jibberjabba · 18/05/2025 17:12

Just imagine if we had done the same to northern island through the troubles

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