This is the reality of what Israel is doing (part 6)

[Eyesopenwideawake]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/apr/08/idf-has-long-history-of-denying-involvement-in-civilian-killings

The utterly heartbreaking thing about starting these threads is how simple it is to find the opening link.

When will they stop?

https://www.thejournal.ie/israel-gaza-conquest-plan-6696110-May2025/

Tens of thousands of reservists soldiers called up and a plan to capture and occupy the strip..this is very worrying.

Well done to the organisation investigating that cruel and brutal Israeli
murder of a Palestinian child, and the ambulance drivers going to rescue her, after she was left alone in a car with the dead bodies of her murdered family.

It is worrying.

They are planning on moving the Palestinians south where they will be pushed up against the IDF bombed and bulldozed stolen land there that is now an Israeli made buffer zone. The Palestinians who make it there yet again ( if they agree to go considering last time they followed orders to go there many were bombed) will be closed in and encircled by military terrorists. There were be military occupation and no doubt creeping Israeli settlements eventually.

If this goes ahead why would Hamas give anything up? They would probably think they will go on to their deaths rather than surrender as there would be nothing to lose.

From Haaretz brief today:

• The plan includes relocating Gaza's population to the south of the enclave, an Israeli official said, claiming that Netanyahu has made clear that this plan differs from previous ones in that it moves from raid-based operations to "the occupation of territory and a sustained Israeli presence in Gaza."
• Later on Monday, Netanyahu said in a video posted on X that the cabinet "decided on a forceful operation in Gaza," adding, "that was the recommendation of the IDF Chief of Staff, to destroy Hamas. And along the way, he thinks it will help us rescue the hostages, and I agree with him." However, on Sunday night it was reported by Channel 13 News that IDF Chief of Staff Eyal Zamir told the cabinet that "in a plan for a full maneuver [in Gaza] we won't necessarily get to the hostages. Take into consideration that we could lose them."
• A senior security official said that the expanded operation in Gaza will not begin until after U.S. President Trump's mid-May visit to the Middle East, and will only be implemented if no hostage deal is reached by then. The official added that the delivery of humanitarian aid will be restored only after the operation begins.
• Far-right Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich said on Monday that the cabinet has decided Israel will not retreat from occupied territories in Gaza, "not even in exchange for hostages." Speaking at a conference in Jerusalem, Smotrich said that Israel is "occupying Gaza to stay – No more entering and exiting.This is a war for victory."

"There is a painful truth at the heart of this war: Israel's military campaign, while degrading Hamas' military capabilities, is also devastating the lives of ordinary Palestinians. If there is to be any hope of ending this war without planting the seeds of the next generation's extremists, the strategy must change" – Lieutenant Colonel (Res.) Peter Lerner

■ HOSTAGES/CEASE-FIRE: The Hostages and Missing Families Forum said that the plan approved by the cabinet for further operations in Gaza should be named the "Smotrich-Netanyahu plan" to "give up on the hostages and Israel's security and national resilience," which they said goes against the will of over 70 percent of Israelis, according to polls.

• The Knesset Constitution Committee's chairman, far-right MK Simcha Rothman, revoked the speaking rights of Einav Zangauker, mother of hostage Matan, after she urged IDF reservists not to report for duty on moral and ethical grounds. "I strongly recommend we be very cautious about using this platform to call for disobedience and refusal to serve," Rothman told Zanauker, who replied that she is "not calling for a refusal to serve… I am saying that people should not show up for reserve duty for reasons of morality and principle."

• Anat Angrest, mother of hostage Matan, told Haaretz that "it seems that the government has prioritized Hamas' defeat over rescuing and returning the hostages, because that would require stopping the war…Now, a war is being waged out of a desire for revenge and occupation, not saving lives. Not according to the will of the people, not according to the Jewish spirit."

• Hundreds of protesters against Netanyahu's government held a sit-in opposite the Prime Minister's Office in Jerusalem. The protest was later forcibly dispersed by Israeli police, and one demonstrator was arrested. Protesters then marched to the Knesset.

• Culture and Sports Minister Miki Zohar said in an interview with an ultra-Orthodox radio station that following the cabinet's approval of the plans to expand operations in Gaza, "the hostages' situation won't improve... Undoubtedly, they will be in a very difficult situation."

It's an internment camp for the Gazan population, operated and controlled by their occupiers/colonisers.

The Israeli government is continuing on the fast track down the road of ruin. The karmic payback for their actions are going to be immense.

A senior security official said that the expanded operation in Gaza will not begin until after U.S. President Trump's mid-May visit to the Middle East, and will only be implemented if no hostage deal is reached by then. The official added that the delivery of humanitarian aid will be restored only after the operation begins.

@ScrollingLeaves

This part really worries me. Does this mean there will be no plan for aid moving in until mid May at least.

The situation is currently critical, no food or medical support have entered the region since the 2nd of March.

There will be no Gazans left to move in a few weeks if this continues.

So many children are already starving. I hate how the media is calling it “malnutrition” these are children wasted away to stick thin skin and bones.

I don’t see how this child could even walk, much less be displaced yet again miles south to another camp.

The saddest thing is that just a 15min drive away are thousands of trucks with food, water, medicine.

I am not sure if does mean no aid being moved in till after the visit. I just do not know.

Hopefully it doesn't because the situation is urgent as Dr Michael Ryan from WHO said it is "breaking the bodies and minds of children"

Dh and I immediately said it will basically be a concentration camp. The prisoners in the camp (because that's what they will be) will die of malnutrition and disease. It beggars belief that this is being planned.

It fits the definition of a concentration camp akin to the British camps in S Africa.
https://www.warhistoryonline.com/history/concentration-camps-anglo-boer.html

@ScrollingLeaves you ask Why would Hamas give anything up?

But Netanyahu has pledged to resume international aid into Gaza if the hostages are released. That is why Hamas should do it!

I feel like both sides are just refusing to back down because they don’t want to lose face. Both are saying why should I show weakness by giving in first? Meanwhile, there is a humanitarian crisis getting worse by the day.

The side that cares most should do anything to rescue the civilians of Gaza. I’m afraid it’s looking very much like neither side cares about them.

No. Israel should not be blocking humanitarian aid. It is a war crime to weaponise humanitarian aid for the collective punishment of civilians.

Netanyahu also signed the dotted line on the January phased ceasefire that he then proceeded to break without cause in March. His government has also been violating the ceasefire with Lebanon DAILY since November.

Why would any leader (terrorist or not) trust a throwaway promise he says on TV when he can’t even uphold his end of any formal bargain?

In the last 48 hours they've also bombed Syria and Lebanon. 4 countries.

It appears that any agreement (Lebanon and Syria both have agreements with Israel) is not worth the paper it's written on.

In the future, when atrocities occur every country will follow this blueprint. Just last week India was saying "it has the right to defend itself" during the flair up with Pakistan.

His government has also been violating the ceasefire with Lebanon DAILY since November. @SpiritAdder

They've also been bombing Syria over the past week, but what the heck... who's going to complain ?

I know Netanyahu shouldn’t be blocking international aid!

But he is. If Hamas released the hostages & Netanyahu still didn’t fulfil his side of the bargain by resuming international aid there would be such an outcry around the world. Wouldn’t that help the Palestinian cause more than Hamas holding into the hostages for seemingly no benefit just spite?

France has strongly condemned Israel's new plan to conquer Gaza and have said Israel is in violation of international humanitarian law.

The Palestinian civilians cannot influence any of the politics of all this, they are not in control of any of it, they are literally just praying that their kids survive another day. There should be no conditions attached to aid, it's pointless saying "if Hamas did this or that" the aid just needs to go in, and a permanent ceasefire needs to happen immediately. Far more chance of any hostages left alive being able to return to their families that way

Also, if I were Netanyahu I would want it to look good when President Trump arrives - show lots of food being given out.

As things are, the hostages will be getting less food than ever too.

Has it occured to you that Israel aren't doing this to get hostages released? You must surely realise by now that none of the increasingly violent tactics used by Israel is getting a single hostage released. You think Israel haven't noticed that?

I personally think that initially Netanyahu was very focused on getting the hostages back. He was prepared to negotiate with Hamas despite the devastation they caused on October 7th. But it seems like his goals have shifted now.

I think secretly he must now doubt that Hamas will ever release the remaining hostages, or at least not without him agreeing to a temporary rather than permanent ceasefire. A 5 year ceasefire is no use to Israel because Hamas are committed to replaying the October 7th massacre over & over again if they are allowed to remain in power.

I think Hamas had more power earlier in the war and could have used the hostages release to gain more concessions from Netanyahu. But they had to negotiate well & instead of doing that they chose to make spectacles out of themselves with the way they handled the first hostage releases.

I wonder how much Trump already knows about this
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/05/04/israel-gaza-aid-distribution-plan/

American Security companies to distribute the aid using facial recognition technology.
Only 60 trucks a day allowed in (fraction of what is needed)
All in the south so the north is cleared for annexation.

I don't think it's going to be annexed. This is an excellent thread detailing what's happened and what likely to happen next and how it's going to play out Saul Sadka on X

I can't read the replies as I do not have an account but he refers to Gaza as a "festering sore" which is not pleasant.

Smotrich has stated "no retreat from the territories we have conquered" which implies to me that this is the final end game of taking over the area.

It's a good thing you can't read it too, some really awful posts.