Can someone explain Islamophobia to me?

[BaMamma]

I don't think I have an irrational fear of Muslims, but I think I have a reasonable concern about radical Islam, does that make me Islamophobic?

Agreed

I'm quite sure this thread was never meant to be helpful - it was mean to be goady.

Christian mobs in Britain attacking Jews and Muslims? What are you talking about?

It doesn’t change the legitimacy of the question though. There is a lack of official questioning of Islam and its effects, or potential effects, on British society.

We have a fair number of Muslim politicians who are very, very invested in the advancement of Islamic custom even where it is at odds with British society - the cousin marriage and blasphemy law being just 2 examples. They’re emboldened as nobody vehemently opposes them due to fears of looking ‘Islamophobic’. Humza Yousef has even accused David Lammy of racism for not unquestioningly going along with his demands regarding Gaza.

Jacob Rees Mogg (deplorable human being) was very very heavily quizzed on his religious beliefs and how they impacted his politics, as have other Christian politicians, but this same level of accountability and questioning is never ever applied to Muslim politicians.

Throw around the ‘Islamophobia’ label with abandon at your own peril.

I know, right? Like that teacher in Batley who’s been in hiding for years for showing his class a caricature of Jesus. Ah, but it wasn’t Jesus…

Again, what are you on about? What does nuns’ and monks’ attire have to do with ‘traditional Christian clothing’?
How many women do you see walking down the street dressed as nuns?

Agree on those pp

Of course facial expressions a important in communication.
Personally, I often take off sunglasses too when talking to someone, but I don’t think sunglasses are generally an issue.
Covering the whole face puts up a barrier though.

False, so nothing to explain.

@SummerFeverVenice why do you say that pp was false?

I wish Islam could go through a period of reformation where the moderates, who's women are not oppressed, chose modest clothing of their own free will, could completely separate from the likes of ISIS, Hamas, the Taliban etc. Thereby we have a separate name for the separate groups and could freely discuss the utter horror bought about by Islamists as separate to the peace loving moderates who just want to get on with normal lives.

I agree with you. Nailing jelly to the wall is quite a good analogy too.

Exactly. People jumping in with ‘OP clearly has an agenda’ and trying to stifle discussion just make the whole issue appear even more concerning.

I’d be curious to understand how those defending Islam on here would feel about living with sharia law here in the UK.

There are almost 2 billion Muslims in the world. If there was a hidden agenda to get everyone to live under the Taliban / Isis interpretation of Islam, I’m sure it would have happened by now!

Lol it’s not hidden! There are enough people openly telling the world exactly how they plan to conquer the UK from within. Pull the other one!

There is so much gaslighting in response to the evidence that’s in plain sight.

Yes, not all Muslims want this, but enough do and we are so guileless I have no doubt they will succeed. We do not want the violence that is coming. Indeed, we do not want the violence that is already here but there seems to be little we can do about that.

And just for the avoidance of doubt… here in the UK we don’t want to live under ANY Islam, not just extreme versions. Do you though? Want sharia law for the UK?

I think we do have that separation. islamists and Muslims are two different things . Islamist is a political ideology. It using Islam as justification or a rationale for the ideology. But belonging to the Muslim religion is separate from belief in an Islamist ideology.

The poster in the quote chain said all Muslim women did not have a choice. That is not representative of all Muslims. Lumping all Muslims in with the extremists is islamaphobia. Look! An example of it, as asked for by the OP.

How separate though?

Do the likes of Hamas, ISIS, Taliban not also refer to themselves as Muslims tho? Followers of Islam?
Because I am keen to not offend moderates but also absolutely abhor the others, it seems unfair they have the same name.

Occidentaphobia?

Eye contact through a burqa? Oookay.

If you live in Australia that's not an irrational fear.

Sure, just peer through the mesh, you’re clearly not trying hard enough ;)

Never an answer about sharia law which is interesting