BBC documentary - children of Gaza

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https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2025/feb/17/gaza-how-to-survive-a-warzone-review-these-incredible-children-offer-a-sliver-of-hope

Did anyone see this last night? Heartbreaking and enraging in equal measure.

It's a startling visual I agree.

Strange thread. The BBC allow a documentary influenced by - possibly controlled by - a proscribed terrorist organisation and posters come on to say it doesn’t matter. Odd that.

And there’s a mysterious ‘other side’ in this conflict. It’s not Hamas, because the anti-Israel voices are quick to say how much they condemn Hamas. So we’ll have to keep looking for the machine gun toters, tunnel builders, rocker firers and bomb makers. Maybe they’ll turn up.

But most of all…poor old Nelson Mandela. He must be very pissed off that he’s pushed forward all the time. Why can’t much better comparisons for Hamas be used? Like Narco cartels, Farc guerrillas, ISIS or the Black September group?

Here is more detail on this:

https://theintercept.com/2024/02/28/new-york-times-anat-schwartz-october-7/

It's not only you who made that link. USA mainstream media pushed the arguments of mass rape and other allegations as fact after NYT published the article. That was despite the fact that Anat Schwartz had no prior reporting experience and NYT published the article without fact checking. Later, they couldn't find any proof for the allegations of mass rape. The article I posted above describes this in detail.

Despite this, I'm appalled when people talk about horrible stuff like mass rape, breasts being cut off etc..

No it isn’t.

If pp is referring to comments like ‘I’m more reliable than you’ and ‘I was educated by professors’ from someone who had previously claimed the atrocities of October 7th had been debunked, I can see why she would regard them as ‘hilarious’.

I think the point is that BBC should be trustworthy and impartial and that’s how it’s probably seen by many.
It’s problematic at best to involve a child of a Hamas official in a documentary about Gaza (and in a prominent role too) without declaring it. That’s why BBC pulled the documentary, good on them.
Doesn’t mean that no future documentaries can be trusted ever.

I think that the UN should encourage member countries to offer free university places to Gazans during the rebuild. If young people ( very much including women) had the chance to gain a university education ( medicine, software engineering etc etc). Most countries could afford to offer a limited number of places with the idea that having gained skills the young people would go home after three years and use their skills to make Gaza a place with a future.
If young people aged 18 -25 were targeted, it could be such a positive experience particularly for women.
At the moment the future for young ones is bleak with the focus on joining Hamas and fighting. An opportunity to acquire skills and experience life away from conflict and then return to share their knowledge and skills for the greater good, would surely be a healthy goal.
This thread is so depressing. It's all about the blame game. The world could afford to help educate young Gazans and give them a future.

I am not one of the multiple posters who said the BBC were not to be trusted 🙄

To be impartial a news source needs to actually be impartial

We all have different moral standards don't we? I'm my opinion and in the opinion of many others it is disgusting.

Some may wish to silence the voices of the people of Gaza but many many wish to see both sides.

How is it disgusting if someone’s being silly to point out they’re being silly?

The voices of Gazans could have been presented without the son of a Hamas official.

It could have been or it could have been narrated by him.

Because the subject matter here is anything but hilarious. If you can't see that then that's on you.

Yes, but if it’s narrated by him it’s probably not really impartial, unless you regard Hamas as ‘the other side’ we need to listen to.
In any case it should have been declared who he was. Hardly an average Gazan kid.

Well the BBC said they had full editorial control 🤔
And disclosed the information in the documentary when they found out.

You are following the trend of other people on this thread. Accusing posters of being Hamas supporters when you are losing the battle. And it couldn't be further from he truth.

It would be really helpful if you didn’t keep saying ‘we need to listen to both sides’ without clarifying whether by that you mean ‘we need to listen to Hamas’, particularly when you seem unbothered by their influence on the children involved in this documentary.

It would be really helpful if people didn't continue to accuse me of things which are untrue.
This is a discussion thread, we do not bully people into saying the exact words we want to hear.

And it is hard to discuss when you won’t specify who you are talking about in your comments.

Why won’t you be specific? Why be vague meaning your comments need interpretation and then complain when people interpret them in a way that you apparently don’t mean, but then not clarify what you do mean?

It’s not bullying to ask you to clarify your comments.

I have been very clear, it's not my issue that you seek to interpret it wrongly.

No, you haven’t.

I’m now assuming that you aren’t posting in good faith and it is pointless trying to engage further.

Well, they added the information after the documentary had been released and after the issue had been raised on social media.
If they didn’t know who the narrator was, how can they claim to have had full editorial control?
One of the “remotely directed” cameramen of the documentary also seems to be an interesting character:

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/02/24/bbcs-gaza-documentary-cameraman-appears-october-israel/

And here we are yet again with the accusations 😂