Are Hamas as thick as they are evil?!

[Newbutoldfather]

After seeing masked, uniformed well-fed Hamas soldiers humiliating emaciated hostages, does anyone even feel a shred of sympathy for them?

Can’t they even understand how bad this looks and what the consequences will be both for themselves and, more importantly, for the rest of the Palestinians?

It would be hard for them to be as thick as they are evil, because they are extremely evil, but I think they might have achieved it…

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It does, they enable Hamas to continue.

Agree.

No he isn’t, Finklestein speaks with facts, statistics and evidence based arguments with a doctorate in Palestinian studies, that statement is your own skewed view on him rooted in prejudice, racism and immorality that has concluded that. Please do some research and soul searching.

Because Israel was desperate, simple as that. It's heartbreaking.

Any Jewish person who opposes Zionism is described as a self hating Jew to discredit them. Listen to Noam Chomsky on this phenomenon.

They are fighting because they hate Jewish people more than they love their fellow countrymen

Perhaps because Israel is holding many multiples of Palestinians compared to Hamas?

Finally, an educated individual using references to help you all understand the real truth of the situation.

If Hamas are fighting for their country, why was it they spent money intended for schools and infrastructure on terror tunnels? With the money from Quatar Gaza could have been like Dubai.

@onceuponatimelived Hamas are proscribed terrorists in the U.K., supporting them online is a crime

Perhaps mnhq can clarify for those who support them

No, any Jew who hates Jews is described as a self-hating Jew. A Jew who opposes Zionism is just a Jew who opposes Zionism. That's an important distinction to make and it's not really up to non-Jews to lecture Jews on "the truth of the situation".

Can’t they even understand how bad this looks and what the consequences will be both for themselves and, more importantly, for the rest of the Palestinians?

I often think this about the actions of Israel. Though it’s less about just how it looks and more about the consequences.

Noam Chomsky is Jewish

This.

It's quite explicit. In plain sight. "The only way they know how". That's rape, torture, murder of people at festivals and Kibbutz and the kidnapping and hostage keeping of babies, children and adults. Many who will never come home since they ate now dead.

Apologists for these crimes of terrorists should hang their heads in shame.

This is an untrue statement unless you believe that Israel should be wiped out. Do you?

Yes I know. I'm talking about posters on here. Non-Jews tokenising Jews and using the Good Jew/Bad Jew trope to uphold their false narratives is still as unappealing as it was 15 months ago.

If this is the case Israel is fighting because they hate the Palestinians more than they love their fellow countrymen also, as they know Hamas will continue to attack their country and kill their people but they don't seem to care either

I've often posted about Israeli oppression and war crimes commited by members of the IDF. I've expressed my disdain for the current Israeli administration. I've many times stated that I believe both groups have a legitimate claim on the land. I also believe I have more than a passing knowledge of the history of the conflict. I try to keep reading about it too, genuinely.

You, however, just had a post deleted for being in support of Hamas. I was so shocked I took a screenshot of it before it disappeared.

I don't believe I'm the one only seeing it from one side. Let our posts speak for themselves.

This will be the last time I ever engage with you. Toodle pip.

Perhaps you are unaware of the statement that the Hamas leadership put out not long after October 7th saying how they gloried in the blood of the civilian martyrs which they needed to fortify their fighters?

Answer me this, if October 7th never happened, how many of those who died as a result of the ensuring conflict would be alive?

How many of the buildings and homes destroyed would be still be standing?

Hamas knew what would happen as result of October 7th, and as they said themselves, they glory in it. They are doing in right in front of you on those stages.

I think both populaces have been well and truly indoctrinated by their supposed leaders. I presume people have also seen the news footage of Israeli citizens chanting and cheering as bombs rain down on Gaza?

It seems inhuman when you observe it from the outside, but I think it's hubristic of any of us to think that we wouldn't also be susceptible to radicalisation if we were brought up in a society that was taught to hate and fear its closest neighbours, without being given any of the wider context or the view from the other side. This applies to both Israel and Palestine. Hamas are monstrous; the ruling Israeli regime is also monstrous, but is much, much more powerful. Anybody in the West who claims not to get this is being very disingenuous.

I agree.